Sound like we are getting good return on investment far as HC salary goes. The sharks/bears paying 3.5 million more for same result.
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Sound like we are getting good return on investment far as HC salary goes. The sharks/bears paying 3.5 million more for same result.
DAMN YOU CAN'T HELP--I WISH YOU WOULD FIND ANOTHER TEAM TO BITCH AT.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Imagine letting someone you don't even know getting you so upset you scream at the internetQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Come on Kentucky played well at Home--then we lose at Bama and LSU--shit-so does everyone else. You are the mully grubbingiest dude in the history of message Board who isn't happy anytime. You just knew Ole Miss was going to destroy us--wrong--our offense didn't play bad Will did. how about give him credit for the drive before half --that didn't have shit to do with defense. Did you think before the season we would win 8-9 games--hell no--.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
you are worse than a nagging wife--are you happy with anything MSU related--Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I've already posted my betting ticket from the egg bowl, so you're wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
I'm happy with our football program's results, but I do think we have an offensive issue that's concerning.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
I love our basketball program right now, but not sure we can sustain this level unless some guys start shooting better from the outside.
Im not happy in any way with our baseball from the last time I saw them, but I have they will be much improved.
I'm just much more critical than most here, but that doesn't mean im unhappy... I just always wanna see improvement
same players at home for LSU.. They lost to a Fla St team because of turnovers. that Damn Leach playing a Sr.(on the road at Death Valley) who had been catching punts for two years instead of a freshman.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Use your best. Leach wasn't playing safe going for it on 4th down on our side of field. I liked us going for those 4th's too.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Generally when a team beats your ass for 3/4 of a game, you can't really say you "should have" won the game. It would have been NICE to win that game. I would have LIKED to win that game. But LSU beat our asses 9 ways from Sunday because they were better than us. We hung tough for a half, just like a lot of teams did with them. Then they wore us out and beat us up - just like they did a lot of other teams. That's who they are this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Didn't vandy beat KY at KY? Very ugly loss for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
We had a 16-10 lead when the muff punt happened. Total yards for each team at that point - lsu 252, state 245. After that fumble, total yards - lsu 165, state 44. That fumble was a back breaker that changed the whole gameQuote:
Originally Posted by QuadrupleOption
Yeah. South Carolina beat Kentucky at home, too. Bottom line is that we just didn't play well that game, on offense or defense. Almost as bad as Moorhead's first year playing Kentucky there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
What??? We led until the very beginning of the 4th quarter on Williams fumble. The defense kicked LSU's butt for 3/4 of the game until out PR gift wrapped a 1st and goal for them. Don't try to re-write history of that game. And I am one who never had a problem with Austin taken those punts because his history of being sure handed and Thomas had shown to be shaky in traffic. But don't act like that play didn't completely change the game...a game we dominated them defensively for 3 quarters.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuadrupleOption
They did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Vandy had 448 total yards
We had 225 total yards
Our offense for whatever reason didn't travel at all. That has to be fixed. You can't win road games putting up less than 300 yds. We avg'd 286 yds/game on road in sec games this season
outscored 21-0 in the 4th QQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Yeah no doubt we gave out defensively at the end and got beat bad but the poster was saying they destroyed us for 3/4 of the game. That's not true. Without the muff punt we may not have won but that was a complete back breaker and we were done at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Whatever the causes, our often predictable offense that disappears for 1 1/2 to 2 quarters a game must be improved to maintain or improve on 8 wins next year. We need a backup QB that can come in, provide a spark, and let Will watch a couple of series and settle down. Also need some WR's to step up and get in rhythm rather than have a 12* man rotation. Also, RTDB a little more JMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Oh, good Lord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
No one was at that Vandy game at Kroger Field. They had maybe 30k at the most. It was 30 ****ing degrees and KY was totally checked out of that game. That was a BAD loss for them.
As opposed to losing two games in a row, one to SC with a backup QB and a heart breaker at OM. Stoops had them fired up and focused for a sold out night game against us with a RB back from missing a couple games ready to make an impact and a future NFL QB injured but leading his team. They were not going to lose that game. And it's not all offense. Arnett's game plan was shit. If our defense could have gotten just two more stops we could have won that one in a close one.
I was replying to OP saying KY plays good at home, not always. We did play badly against their packed house and Rodriquez killed us.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Why does someone that points out that our offense has been carried by our defense this past year a Leach hater?
I think the offense could be much better, but Leach won't change so we may be stuck with it. That doesn't mean I hate Leach.
I think Leach is great, his offense? Not so much.
That said, he just beat the bears so I'm not going to bitch for a while.
I think most folks in this thread are like me: I like the program Leach runs. Toughness. Accountability. But it?s frustrating watching his coaching disciples make adjustments and have success and he won?t. However, based on the QB coming in Parson and the offer to Trey Petty, it looks like he realizes he has to adjust.
In his defense, his offense probably hasn't performed this poorly 3 years in, so maybe he'll do some introspectionQuote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
Sherman you nailed it. Tweak and win and we all happy. Stop being stuck in 1995.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
It’s extremely frustrating that we have fans that think constructive criticism means you hate the coach or the player. It’s a message board for goodness sakes. What else are we supposed to but discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly? It’s not our fault our offense has been ugly in half our games this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
If we had a QB better than Rogers, Leach would play him. No different than a DE, the best man starts.
Uhhhh yeahhhhh....that's our problemQuote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
It's a catch 22 - and not uncommon when you are building a program or making big fundamental shift in offense. We saw this same scenario play out with Tyler Russell. Good QB, record breaking QB, but not what we really needed, the offense tended to stagnate because of it, and his replacement just wasn't quite ready to replace him yet. It means you lose some games you shouldn't, and you arent really running on all cylinders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
I like the analogy and its a good one. The problem is that we dont have a Dak working to take over. Parson will rot on the bench next season while Rogers throws checkdown after checkdownQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Dak wasn't really ready in 2012 - but he was forced into playing. I don't wish injury on anyone, but sometimes players step into an opportunity and everything comes together. You never know - Will gets dinged and Robertson, Locke, or Parson might have to grow up fast. And sometimes that's all it takes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The portal would be a perfect place to remedy that situation, but no one wants to hurt feelings and everyone knows that going 7-5 will keep their job so no need to rock the boat and shoot for the stars when we have 8 guys on defense returning that are as old as BYU seniors along with returning nearly the entire offense. When NFL teams are really good on defense and struggling at the quarterback position, they either draft someone or get another guy through free agency and put the other guy on the bench or release him. The portal is nothing but free agency. If we can’t improve our quarterback room because people are scared to compete with what we have then remove the obstacle. God forbid we miss out on the music city bowl next year if it doesn’t work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Everyone keeps saying just go get a plug and play QB from the portal. Seems like Leach tried something similar with Costello. How'd that work out? Everyone on here was trashing Joe Burrow his 1st year at LSU. How'd that work out in his 2nd year at LSU?
I don't think it's quite as easy as everyone wants to make it out to be for next year. While Leach's offense is somewhat simple, there's a lot of onus on the QB to make the right reads and be on same page as the rest of the offense, especially the receivers.
Maybe one of our current QBs will be ready towards end of next year or the following year. All we have on this board near as I can tell, is a lot of hearsay about how no one is close to ready to sub for Will. Not sure we have definite knowledge of that one way or the other.
LSU changed the offense drastically burrow's 2nd year.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
True but Burrow also became acclimated to playing in SEC his 1st year. The overall learning curve wasn't as steep. Plus, Leach's offense is pretty unique with amount of latitude he expects the QB to exercise at LOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
ETA: I would love to have a more mobile and skilled QB than we have, but there is more in that decision making process than "just grab a QB from the portal".
I see Will more like Chris Relf Dan's first three years. Will fits the offense and can win games but he also has limitations.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Under Dan with Relf I think we averaged like 25 to 29 PPG and then that jumped up once Dak took over after Dan had been here a few years into like 33-36 PPG his junior and senior years.
You're right it's easier said than done.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
First of all we would have to find someone legitimately better than Will that isn't afraid to compete with him and win the job. Which eliminates about 99% of the portal because the majority of those QB's are leaving because they can't start where they're at or they're FCS guys that are just looking for a shot.
If we get someone as good or better than Jack Abraham we should be happy.
The portal has given some of our fans this false hope that we're going to land Patrick Mahomes 2.0.
Yeah well Burrow made some ridiculous plays that most can't that year. No one calls a play where you tell Burrow to run around like crazy and then gun it down field 40 yards for a strike. For most people that's a sack, an incompletion, or an interception.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'm amazed how good Burrows has gotten. After that first year at Lsu it was like a light came on and ever since he gets better. One of the top QB's in NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah he is incredible. He looks like someone created him in a video game and set the level as high as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Leach will have us as a consistent 7-9 win team in the current state of things
If Will Rogers is the starter next year the ceiling is 9-3
I would love to go and get spencer sanders from the tranfser portal who has been a 4 year starter at Oklahoma State and I believe he is exactly what this offense needs.
Strong Arm, Great footwork, Great Mobility, has the ability to add a whole new dimension to this offense
I think he could be our Gardner Minshew.
But with things the way they are it doesnt matter if Nick Saban is our coach
If the portal and NIL does not get fixed , we will be capped out at around the 8 or 9 win mark because every single year we are going to get our top players poached by programs that care more about football than we do
Example : Rara, a program like LSU would never let that guy walk no matter the money because they have endless money
We dont, It was a stupid Idea to allow 2 sec schools in the poorest state in America with another quality G5 program and Jackson state taking up some of the non bandwagon fanbases
Half of East Mississippi is Alabama fans
Half of south mississippi are LSU fans
We have to get our money up and I have joined the initiative
The NCAA or SEC is going to have to step in and do something about this , I think NIL is fine but the transfer portal is just absolutely ridiculous
I dont know how to fix it but I dont get paid the Big Dollars to do such thing
Hail State