Mississippi State Athletic Director

Bye weeks are fun at State!!!

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

From what I have heard since the offseason .

I am know seeing it so it is actually starting to make since

Like it or not folks.

Leach is coaching for his job on thanksgiving. No coach gets to lose 3 egg bowls in a row. We may not care about winning at a high level but seeing ole miss making NY6?s and getting all the best in state recruits and making us look like the 2nd rate school, hell , jackson state gets more publicity than us now.

We are falling behind OM as a football program and their baseball program has just caught up with us also. While they have a way better football program and coach that has the media loving him and recruits in the portal begging to come to ole miss.

The football boosters see this and know what?s got to happen.

If leach loses the egg bowl he is fired .

That?s what I?ve been told since before the season started by people associated with the program that I know and know im seeing it

Cohen getting out before Leach gets him fired.

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You are starting to sound like Bert. Lol

What if we win out and lose close to pissville U? Are we still firing him.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Bye weeks are fun at State!!!

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I had one of my most epic meltdowns here on a bye week a few years back lol

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Originally Posted by Maverick91

You are starting to sound like Bert. Lol

What if we win out and lose close to pissville U? Are we still firing him.

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No we would not fire him in that case

Not trying to sound like ? that guy? , sorry for coming off as a douche or a know it all but

Assuming we only beat auburn and ETSU

A blowout loss to OM will get him fired

A 6-6 season with another loss to OM gets him fired

8-4 beating #1 Georgia losing to OM close doesn?t get him fired.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

No we would not fire him in that case

Not trying to sound like ? that guy? , sorry for coming off as a douche or a know it all but

Assuming we only beat auburn and ETSU

A blowout loss to OM will get him fired

A 6-6 season with another loss to OM gets him fired

8-4 beating #1 Georgia losing to OM close doesn?t get him fired.

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Lol

"If we lose to Ole Miss he will get fired, guaranteed."

"Oh wait there are actually some scenarios in which he wouldn't get fired."

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Originally Posted by Hambone

I understand your point, but show me one national writer who said the Moorehead hire was nothing short of a home run? Literally everyone thought Cohen made a great hire. Everyone.

Hindsight is definitely 20/20 however on that day it was viewed as a great hire.

We have the greatest baseball stadium in the country and it isn?t close and that is 100% due to Cohen. We have a National Championship and that is 100% because of Cohen.

We have way more to be thankful for because of Cohen than we do to complain about.

My opinion of course.

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Most of the college sports world follows football and men's BB only. Just the way it is.

The Hugh Freeze extension at Liberty makes a a ton of sense now.

If Cohen gets the job, the AU job just disappeared for Freeze.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

The Hugh Freeze extension at Liberty makes a a ton of sense now.

If Cohen gets the job, the AU job just disappeared for Freeze.

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Will he at least give us a good bye kiss by taking lane?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

"If we lose to Ole Miss he will get fired, guaranteed."

"Oh wait there are actually some scenarios in which he wouldn't get fired."

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Playing Alabama and LSU on the road and then playing Georgia gives the turds some ammunition, although very low caliber ammunition.

They are going to be suffering next year when Leach plays a long string of Hostess cupcakes.

I can hear it now “he can’t win 11 he can’t win 11”

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

"If we lose to Ole Miss he will get fired, guaranteed."

"Oh wait there are actually some scenarios in which he wouldn't get fired."

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Sir.

That?s assuming he beats GEORGIA.

He?s not beating Georgia .

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Sir.

That?s assuming he beats GEORGIA.

He?s not beating Georgia .

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So

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Leach can go 1-3 and get blown out and he will be here next year with an easy schedule and coast to 9-10 wins. And you will be eating shit sandwiches.

You need to stop listening to those voices in your head.

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If we only go 1-3 down the stretch and end up 6-7 after a nothing bowl, we no way win 9 to 10 next year. We will still be in the West no matter how "easy" next year's schedule looks.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

So

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You said if he beats Georgia will he get fired still ?

Well no, he would have pulled off the greatest upset in 15+ years at MSU. He could then lose the egg bowl

But assuming the realistic idea he loses to Georgia , gets killed by OM

Only beats auburn and ETSU goes 7-5 with all he returned in year 3 while not looking improved at all , maybe even worse.

Yes , there are people within the program that will want him gone and they will outnumber the people who want to keep him.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Sir.

That?s assuming he beats GEORGIA.

He?s not beating Georgia .

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I don't care if we're playing the Eagles. You said he was absolutely gone if we lose to Ole Miss, but immediately backtracked to there being a scenario that he might not be. Did you lie? Exaggerate? How can we believe a word you say when you contradict yourself like this?

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

If we only go 1-3 down the stretch and end up 6-7 after a nothing bowl, we no way win 9 to 10 next year. We will still be in the West no matter how "easy" next year's schedule looks.

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Losing to auburn does not prevent next years team from getting 9-10 wins with a cake schedule. I doubt we lose to auburn but it really doesn’t matter. leach isn’t getting fired.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

No I can read a schedule and I can see who is likely to return, have another drink.

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Another year older, does not automatically mean a year better for some of these guys if they return. I not drinking.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I don't care if we're playing the Eagles. You said he was absolutely gone if we lose to Ole Miss, but immediately backtracked to there being a scenario that he might not be. Did you lie? Exaggerate? How can we believe a word you say when you contradict yourself like this?

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If I tell my son that if he doesn?t have his room cleaned in one hour he will be grounded. I?m not accounting for the fact that a ****ing tornado would come and hit his room.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

You said if he beats Georgia will he get fired still ?

Well no, he would have pulled off the greatest upset in 15+ years at MSU. He could then lose the egg bowl

But assuming the realistic idea he loses to Georgia , gets killed by OM

Only beats auburn and ETSU goes 7-5 with all he returned in year 3 while not looking improved at all , maybe even worse.

Yes , there are people within the program that will want him gone and they will outnumber the people who want to keep him.

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You are making things up, talking in circles and living in a internet fantasy world. What you type has no bearing on reality. leach isn’t getting fired and you don’t represent the fan base. Neither do the little bucket of turds on genes page.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

We had the most returning starters in the sec this season

We are going 7-5 this year.

Guess I?ll drink some more

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Returning starters don't mean the most talent in the SEC.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Cohen getting out before Leach gets him fired.

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If Cohen leaves this is probably true.

Then we can start the cycle all over again and hire someone like Napier ... so we can lose all our SEC games except Mizzou. And instead of losing to KY & LSU on the road, we can lose to them at home, like Napier.

I'm ready ... let's goooo!!

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

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If I tell my son that if he doesn?t have his room cleaned in one hour he will be grounded. I?m not accounting for the fact that a ****ing tornado would come and hit his room.

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You're just digging yourself deeper. You'd be better off just admitting you're full of shit than trying to act like "a tornado destroys my house" is equivalent to the 30-40% chance the metrics give us to beat Georgia.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I had one of my most epic meltdowns here on a bye week a few years back lol

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Haha!!

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

If Cohen leaves this is probably true.

Then we can start the cycle all over again and hire someone like Napier ... so we can lose all our SEC games except Mizzou. And instead of losing to KY & LSU on the road, we can lose to them at home, like Napier.

I'm ready ... let's goooo!!

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Agree with your post. In every metric this is a bottom tier sec program, all the ingredients are there to sink down into the mire with vanderbilt and Missouri. The AD change relating to the coach is a logical conclusion as well. The difference here is Leach is going to coach next year, no matter the outcome of this year. Leach will win a lot of games next year, probably 9-10. He is extended until 2025. He isn’t going any where unless he decides to in all likelihood.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Agree with your post. In every metric this is a bottom tier sec program, all the ingredients are there to sink down into the mire with vanderbilt and Missouri. The AD change relating to the coach is a logical conclusion as well. The difference here is Leach is going to coach next year, no matter the outcome of this year. Leach will win a lot of games next year, probably 9-10. He is extended until 2025. He isn’t going any where unless he decides to in all likelihood.

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I laughed, but this is so true. People hate on Cohen and think that another AD could change things. I have doubts about that.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Agree with your post. In every metric this is a bottom tier sec program, all the ingredients are there to sink down into the mire with vanderbilt and Missouri. The AD change relating to the coach is a logical conclusion as well. The difference here is Leach is going to coach next year, no matter the outcome of this year. Leach will win a lot of games next year, probably 9-10. He is extended until 2025. He isn?t going any where unless he decides to in all likelihood.

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I'm ready! Let's do IT!!!

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Returning starters don't mean the most talent in the SEC.

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CHECKMATE.....

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

For all those that think Cohen stinks when it comes to football, go back and look at all the head coaches some of you wanted to hire over the last 5 years and where they all are now.

Also, check to see if you've increased or decreased your giving to our university or have contributed in any way to NIL.

Cohen has done a pretty good job. Lemonis won a championship. Soccer, softball, and volleyball have all been ranked in the Top 25 in the last year and are plying as good as they ever have. He fired Howland and I think made a solid hire in Jans. And Leach has been about as good as our history indicates a football coach will be.

Plus we have the premiere college baseball stadium in the country and are handling renovations at the Hump.

Not sure what else you all want from Cohen honestly.

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No idea why people hate on Cohen here.

The Moorhead hire was universally hailed by everyone (there was even an article comparing Cohen's meticulous search vs what TN did at that time).

We are most likely going to hire some "experienced" AD that would be put us in a hole like how A&M or AU or FL are now. People really need to read the Rant to understand what other ADs are doing in the SEC.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'm ready! Let's do IT!!!

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Then the pea brains will want to change coaches again in three years. The guys out there who can rebuild a small financially poor programs into solid middle of the pack programs are a very short list, more misses than hits. Cohen did his homework on Leach. Texas tech and WSU are basically Miss State, Texas tech probably a little stronger in relation to the big 12 and program history, WSU a little weaker.

Then you get in a financial hole, because you are a small financially disadvantaged program. You get locked in on a bad hire and you can’t get out of it, you are still paying buyouts with a,limited budget and can’t afford facility upgrades. This scenario plays out over and over with the doormat programs.

I think the people that really make these decisions know the reality.

I?m shocked at this development. I can?t help but think Cohen believes State is toast in this NIL world and he is bolting.

So are the ad?s the problem or Keenum? Legitimate question, does he give an AD the leeway to be more successful or not?

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Then the pea brains will want to change coaches again in three years. The guys out there who can rebuild a small financially poor programs into solid middle of the pack programs are a very short list, more misses than hits. Cohen did his homework on Leach. Texas tech and WSU are basically Miss State, Texas tech probably a little stronger in relation to the big 12 and program history, WSU a little weaker.

Then you get in a financial hole, because you are a small financially disadvantaged program. You get locked in on a bad hire and you can’t get out of it, you are still paying buyouts with a,limited budget and can’t afford facility upgrades. This scenario plays out over and over with the doormat programs.

I think the people that really make these decisions know the reality.

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Yep. I'm ready to jump into the never ending cycle of hiring/firing every 3 years while paying buyouts to multiple coaches at the same time. Makes sense to me as to being the road to prosperity.

We need more bye weeks. This thread has helped me through my workday today.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Why do y'all want Cohen to leave?

I do think it would be good to have Byrne, Strick, and Cohen all as AD at other schools. They should look out for us more than others would.

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I don?t have a strong opinion of him, but with all the animosity towards him, it?s not terrible for for him to leave while there is still goodwill. He and Stricklin will be voting their employers interests first, but when there is not a conflict, I would expect them to look out for us. Not sure if Byrne has any goodwill towards us, but if he does, that?s three allies plus Sankey. Again, not going to be biased in our favor or anything, but should at least be on the lookout against us getting screwed.

My reason for telling Cohen to hit the road is not because I dislike the guy. It is because it looks exactly like the Striklin move. Interviewing with another SEC program. It stinks of disloyalty by an Alum. If he is making decisions based on what message board heroes think of him, that is another strike against him.

I just think his goal is to move to Alabama and run for Senate as a Progressive to counter Tubberville. 😂😂😂😂😂

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I don?t have a strong opinion of him, but with all the animosity towards him, it?s not terrible for for him to leave while there is still goodwill. He and Stricklin will be voting their employers interests first, but when there is not a conflict, I would expect them to look out for us. Not sure if Byrne has any goodwill towards us, but if he does, that?s three allies plus Sankey. Again, not going to be biased in our favor or anything, but should at least be on the lookout against us getting screwed.

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I'm not getting where Byrne or Strickland helping us at all. Didn't stop Saban from hiring away 2 assistants after 2018. I don't see squarely called games against Bama either.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'm not getting where Byrne or Strickland helping us at all. Didn't stop Saban from hiring away 2 assistants after 2018. I don't see squarely called games against Bama either.

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When the SEC is figuring out who to give everyone as their 3 permanent opponents in the 16-team, 9-game format, I expect Florida, Auburn, and Alabama to all vote for a plan that gives us Ole Miss and Kentucky as 2 of our 3.

Obviously they're not going to put us in front of any of their current jobs, but they will do some little things to help us. Another example would be if a cowbell ban comes up for a vote again for whatever reason, I strongly expect all 3 of those to vote No.

I can't believe people are melting down about this. I have a higher opinion of Cohen than many on this board, and even I don't think he will be very hard to replace with someone better.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

When the SEC is figuring out who to give everyone as their 3 permanent opponents in the 16-team, 9-game format, I expect Florida, Auburn, and Alabama to all vote for a plan that gives us Ole Miss and Kentucky as 2 of our 3.

Obviously they're not going to put us in front of any of their current jobs, but they will do some little things to help us. Another example would be if a cowbell ban comes up for a vote again for whatever reason, I strongly expect all 3 of those to vote No.

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I also haven't thought we got any kind of favorable scheduling either. Ole Miss gets much better scheduling than we do. JMO tho.

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Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time

I can't believe people are melting down about this. I have a higher opinion of Cohen than many on this board, and even I don't think he will be very hard to replace with someone better.

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It's because most people are pu**ies and are scared of their own shadow.