Yep, I've heard the exact same excuses for missing oractices. Man it's just such a different world and I'm a dinosaur I guess. I know my kids never missed a practice. No Country for Old Men, I guess.
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LOL, I'd rather have a team be tight than unprepared. Also while lot of difference in Bama losing a very close game to us being dominated.
Leach may be the best we can get as a HC. Our history says he is one of our best. I'm all in for MSU, I'm just not all in with the air raid. I will always pull for us to win in every sport.
Btw, it's a message board, take what I say or think with a grain of salt.
The whole team didn?t seem to be really there. Offense was lackluster and to quote Will Rogers himself, ? this offense will go as far as I go?. With that being said, he has a bad game, happens to everyone. Just sucks because everyone had high expectations of this game being a win. He will bounce back and so will the team.
But those of you thinking bringing in Altmeyer or someone else like that will help is crazy. We have some of the highest rated QBs in high school on the roster and they are not ready with a year under their belt. Bringing someone else in basically throws away next year. Will is our guy, gives us the best chance to win NOW. So just accept Will is your QB, swish it around and then swallow. You?ll feel better in the morning. Hail State
Well, I'm ole school, just because kids or players are soft doesn't mean a Coach has to cow down and let things go. No wonder the Bear and Saban are the GOATS in their times, yes, they have more talent than most, but they hold them accountable. Just saying.
The defense absolutely deserves a lot of blame. We gave up 24 points in the second half and it would have been more if UK doesn?t take a knee at the goal line to end the game.
Our offense is hit and miss since Leach has been here, that?s not really a new phenomenon. It needs to be more consistent but we?ve won some games in spite of it here and there. But our defense being pushed around by freaking Kentucky is a major, major issue. One that may cause us to not win another SEC game if we don?t get it fixed. Don?t think Auburn can?t come in here and run it down our throats too.
And he does. We all have the history. While here he removed the top RB and others for not following rules. There is zero evidence that he "Allowed" anything. BTW, Bama has won many games on talent alone. UT didn't really beat bama without the help of Bama players. As in a muffed punt. Saban says the same things Leach does about things like that.
Ok this could be an interesting conversation.
Well the only reason I mentioned Altmyer is because his last name is on buildings at MSU. I hated to see us pass on him. We need to take care of those that take care of us. I believe he is entering the transfer portal or at least exploring options.
Admittedly, I have not seen Robertson play other than Bowling Green. However you and many others say Will is our best option or you hear Robertson isn't ready. I agree Rogers is the guy this year and for the remainder of the year. However while I think this offense has limitations, I'm seeing what others have said in the past. Rogers needs to be more athletic or dynamic to expand the potential of this offense. He goes down to easy, reluctant to run and takes the easier options on throws.... mostly. That isn't just me saying that. I'm a Rogers fan.
So keeping in mind, what can we do to push Rogers to run, be more aggressive?..... competition. There needs to be more competition for QB1 next spring. If Robertson is a truly a 4 star, he should be pushing Rogers this year and next spring for the starting role. If those in the know keep saying Robertson isn't ready.... well I begin to question his overall talent and wonder if there is someone else to bring in to push Rogers and be ready if needed.
You played. Did y'all never have a week of practice where you just felt nothing was clicking? A week where maybe the defense or offense didn't seem to be getting the game plan well, or that people were making unusual mistakes?
I only played high school baseball, and I know we had periods like that. Everyone just seemed to be off, timing was bad. And it didn't matter how we changed things up - nothing seemed to break the funk. It typically meant we got our ass beat that week if it carried over to the games. Sometimes it did, and yep, we got our ass beat. Coaches would juggle the line up, move guys around, or bench someone, and still we just funked it up. Sometimes, the funk would only last 2-3 innings and then something would spark everyone - a big hit, a great defensive play, a pitcher battling back with 1 out and the bases juiced to get 2 big K's - and would break out. Sports are weird like that, and I'd be surprised if you've never seen that happen.
ETA: I'm not condoning it or excusing it - I've just experienced it so it doesn't shock me to hear the coaches weren't happy with practices last week.
Yep, the biggest thing I take away from teams that play well at home and fold on the road is a lack of mental toughness and maturity. I don’t mean to be unfair but will really folded mentally. You have to be fearless in the pocket and not panic, especially when you have no escapability. He’s a leader but it was team wide. I’m sure leach ripped into them, but they are set to get thrashed at Bama. Hopefully we come out of there without any more injuries
And those qualities are exceedingly rare. Just look at how we rattled Max Johnson and the starter from Arky. Watching Bryce Young get walloped all game at UT and still perform the way he did should be eye-opening as to what the difference between programs like Bama and MSU is - It is honestly what separates the 5*'s from everyone else - they tend to have that maturity and poise on top of the athletic ability.
In my time as a State fan, Dak is really the only QB that I think had that ability - and even he wasn't flawless and got rattled some.
I watched some of Leachs air raid qbs at tech, and everyone of them was tough as nails and fearless in the pocket. It was kind of a prerequisite. They would hang in until the last second and take punishment. I’ve never seen one panic and throw it away when the defender isn’t within 5 to 10 yards of them. bJ Symons, Kliff , Harrell , cumbie. I think you will see the same with some of the texa qbs he’s brought in. Some of that is age and maturity but this is wills third year. He needs to be able to do that if we ever hope to win more than 8 games.
I don't thing lack of maturity can be an excuse. We returned more starters than any other SEC school in Leath's "third year". We have a couple of starters in their sixth year and many who had the covid year. They are "student athletes", but football is the major part of what many of them do. The entire team, O, D, & ST looked totally unprepared for KY. I will admit and my longtime fan observation that no matter the coach, we don't seem to handle success when we get ranked.
Yes they do, and you see it happen all the time in every sport - whether the team is full of veterans or not. No one should think or believe that this is something unique to MSU. It happened to the defending World Series champs last week. It happened to Bama - finally. Sometimes, it happens like it did to us Saturday. Sometimes, it happens like what we did to Auburn last year. Does anyone remember how Vandy just flopped against us in CWS and started committing error after error when they were the best defensive team in CBB, and their first round pitcher got lit up like a Christmas tree? Or when the Falcons shit the bed in the Super Bowl? Or when App State (3-3), Marshall (3-3), Ga Southern (4-3) and MTSU (3-4) all stood up and beat Power 5 teams at their places.
Saturday sucked. It sucks to lose. It sucks even more to lose when you are perceived to be the better team. That's sports. It's not denying that we sucked and everything went wrong.
Unless you want to be a bandwagon fan and follow only Bama, the Yankees, and Tom Brady this is life.
it is a shame that a qb like will rogers, who will not be remembered for any great wins, or getting the program to a top 10 ranking, BCS bowl, etc is breaking Dak and SEC records.
You guys that blow off sucking so easily are part of the problem. We'll be favored in 9 of 12 games this year. We were favored our last couple last year. Think about that. We've sucked. This isn't a home and road deal. It's a bad football problem. Our recruiting is shaky as hell too. We've got to really get all the priority guys and find another couple to get to normal recruiting levels.
This team can't handle physical play. LSU and KY have shown it. AL will show it this week.
We've got to hope our coaches and players figure it out. They've got 5 games to win 3 & make this a successful season.
And that double whammy game at the end is looking large.
Losing being acceptable by so many State fans. Like I said. This team should win 8 games minimum...minimum. If you can't have expectations, you just don't care about winning. Funny how another team in MS has fans that give a crap while we just sit around saying we shouldn't have expectations because we will always suck.
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This is an experienced team and its not like kentucky just out talented us. We went up there and played like absolute shit on offense.
If this team is mentally tough they can turn around and go into tuscaloosa with nothing to lose and put a few touchdowns on the board against alabama.
This aint 2011 NFL defense alabama. This same alabama shoudve lost to Texas with a backup qb and won by 1 point
This same bama team shouldve lost at home to A&M who we obliterated.
If we cant go into tuscaloosa and score 21 points and look competent on offense in year 3 with a 3rd year starting qb and many other juniors and seniors... We just aint any good.
All im asking for the rest of the season is Beat ETSU, Beat Auburn, and win the damn Egg Bowl and go 8-4 and get the gator bowl.
IF leach can do that, then fans will officially buy in with a year 4 starting qb returning next year and a much more favorable schedule.
We should expect 9-3 next season.