It didn't help Joe Lee either when he started blabbing at luncheons and grid iron dinners about how he calls his defenses including not covering the TE on most sets.
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It didn't help Joe Lee either when he started blabbing at luncheons and grid iron dinners about how he calls his defenses including not covering the TE on most sets.
That is true and there was much more to it than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extendedcab
That's totally false. Stop making s*** up. I was in those teams and players could care less. JWS didn't do anything to Wayne. I thought your were an insider with all your booster money? Sounds like a typical wannabeQuote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
Wrong againQuote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
FalseQuote:
Originally Posted by Extendedcab
1000% truth!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I have yet to meet a former player that played for The Kang that didnt love him. I'm sure there are a few- always is. But I have yet to meet one. The ones I know will fight you over him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Good to hear, I have always like JWS. I am a big fan of his!Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
lol you so full of shit your still butt hurt your degree in basket weaving only got you back to your doublewide in AckermanQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I blame the Arizona Western JUCO pass rush or lack thereof more than losing Smoot and Bean. Korey Banks played in Canada for awhile so he wasn't an awful player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Jackie definitely gets credit for bringing in Joe Lee. That was the key hire for us for our late 1990's run.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Jackie Wayne is the still the man!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Lol, you're a peon and a liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
Recruiting rankings always pander to large fanbases who sell clicks and coaches / schools who "play the game" with recruiting sites: Tennessee, A&M, etc. Shocking we have a doomsday post about recruiting right when the sites have their major ranking shakeup going into the season. /s
NIL only changes the legality of paying players (and therefore allows more open organization for some schools). A&M isn't the top recruiter because of NIL. They hired Bjork to set up "the network" like he facilitated at OM. They'd be #1 without it. But if you'll notice, the chairs are changing. Auburn & Florida are cycling out. LSU is in a precarious spot. Arkansas has a full class already, so their numbers are skewed comparatively (23 commits). They're not cycling in.
If anything, this just realigns the top half a bit. The bottom half won't keep up and within 10 years you'll be back to teams paying out the ass (Georgia going 100 in a 70) and teams like State, SCar, & UK being more efficient with their dollars because spending to go from 30th to 25th don't mean shit. Same as it always was. The gap doesn't widen from top half to bottom half because there is only so many seats and schollies available. The scholarship cap is the thing holding it together. As long as that is in place and we stay in the same conference as Alabama, we're going to have a shot every year. Not a great one, but a shot. And that's all you can ever really ask for.
The future AD, Head Coaches and all recruiting coordinators meetings will look like a "Moneyball" meeting. We need to go hire Billy Beanes Intern to run our Dept recruiting. And about 75% of all schools will have to do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
https://youtu.be/3MjxoaynCmk
Good post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
I will say that when Saban retires there is going to be major shakeup in power in the SEC. Just like when Bear Bryant left. He'll be 71 this year and for reference guys like Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno were 80 and 85 respectively when they stopped. At some point he's going to stop in the next 10 years likely. And in the meantime other teams are going to use his age against him in recruiting. "Saban won't be at Bama when you graduate".
What i remember was JLD went to a prevent D that contributed in Tommy Pinebox two pt conversion win in Starkville. Also a question for Coach 34, I remember the DOGS just killing om with the tight end the first half. If memory serves there were no passes thrown to TE after the first half. Can you enlighten?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
He turned down Tennessee.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
This lie has included whatever high profile player over and over through the years. I've never heard it included that player though. Nice twist.***Quote:
Originally Posted by Extendedcab
I dont remember alot of the schematics from the game except the prevent and them getting the 4th and 29. I knew at that point we were going to lose. No doubt they were going to go for 2 when they scored.Quote:
Originally Posted by lastmajordog
no he didn't. He would have biked to UT for that job.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
Joe Lee hated recruiting worse than Dan Mullen. He didn't get a soul. Not one.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
I'm as big of a Leach fanboy as exists in the entire fanbase, and I think it's very obvious that Tennessee turned down Leach, not the other way around.
They turned him down for ... Jeremy Pruitt. Pretty dumb of Tennessee. When Heupel fails, he'll be their 4th bust coach in a row since Kiffin left them high and dry.
Yeah, he campaigned hard for the Miami and UT jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I remember the SI article with the big UT boosters furious when they found out Pruitt was hired over Leach. Heupel may bring them back to respectability but those Fat Phil days are long, long gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I think Heupel will be successful. He got them to play hard in Year 1. They were well-coached. Tennessee has money so they will get talent. I think they finally have their guy to get them back in the top half of the SEC consistently
If only 1998 was a perpetual universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Even in 98, it took a 4th down saving PI to save them at Syracuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
A missed game winning FG by Florida.
Sternor stumble.
Alabama being down and playing a 8-3 west opponent in Atlanta.
Then a NC game vs a FSU on their QB2.
It was all luck for the vols that year. The most plastic football NC I know of.
Most of today's "student athletes" in our easy transfer/NIL world will care less if Saban is there when they graduate. If there to transfer to, another story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
NIL will make Saban less of an issue. Guys will go play at SC if they offer more money than Bama. "Get Paid" is the motto for kids as early as the 8th grade today. The Jr High kids at Natchez literally had that on workout shirts
"Money talks and bullshit walks" is a more true mantra today than ever before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
How sad! 8th grade??? Wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Hey 34 how long til the "8th grade NIL" boomerangs? I will guess that in 3-4 years when most of these kids peak in the 11th grade will the fools with more money than sense wake up and this crap end. Then the kids handlers will go back to see what coach gets them to the NFL, like Saban.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This! Joe Lee DID NOT recruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Doesn't every kid want to play sports and become rich? All I thought about as kid was playing in the MLB but I thinking more about game winning hits than a paycheck. Although I wanted that paycheck too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extendedcab
Seems the change is...although I don't know first hand...we were pushed hard and it was made clear to us that we had to earn everything. Maybe that still happens. I dnk. But I have my suspicions when it comes to the better athletes.
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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
When I was in the 8th grade, I don't think I considered becoming rich playing sports :confused:. My thoughts were around being a dominate player and scoring at the last second to win the game.
There is nothing wrong with dreaming about making money when you become an adult, but in the 8th grade to focus on money as a primary motive is a little much! I think it is putting the cart before the horse! I thought the desire to play sports was "mainly" for the love of the game - especially as an amateur. I guess times have changed and not for the better! I guess I am having a hard time swallowing that everybody that ever steps a foot on a field or course should be paid regardless of their age.
I want to see athletes that play the game for the love of the game and not for the love of money - and there is a difference in the way they approach the game.
It's not the kids but their handlers, parents, Uncles and their travel team coaches. Yes in PeeWee their are now "travel teams" just like the AAU in basketball/Quote:
Originally Posted by Extendedcab
I feel the same way. I really don’t follow pro sports that much anymore, gave up college basketball and college football is the last worthy sport. If they just turn it into the nfl, I will probably just quit following it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extendedcab
When your family don't own the roof over their head and capitalism runs this unchecked, that's a consequence. It's crazy to see you on here complaining that kids are focused on their futures earlier and earlier when that's the reality of the system you love to also push. HypocriteQuote:
Originally Posted by Extendedcab
The downward spiral will continue until idiots run out of money or some idiots wise up and quit throwing money at these kids. The whole thing is pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
The crowd that says if you don't empty your pockets to these kids then you ain't a real fan or you don't want to win is BS. Unless you have unreal amounts of money, you ain't winning crap anyway if the money game continues.
It ain't the kids at first but they are raised that way as you say and then it is them.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave