We have some very talented dumbasses. Hard to watch.
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We have some very talented dumbasses. Hard to watch.
State is better without Jeffries on the floor.
Watching this team gives me Ebola
Tolu smith better have Covid or an injury. If he's out bc of discipline, I'd rather he be gone for good.
He might be in the portal trying to transfer back to Western Kentucky.😳😳
Yeah great idea! Let?s let Tolu go but let?s keep Howland!
I didn't watch. What happened to Shakeel Moore? doesn't look like he played much in the 2nd half.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Well, the team and the coach weren?t on the same page tonight, but hell, it?s only year 8.
We scored enough points to beat exactly 1 other SEC team tonight.
Tennessee is the only SEC team that scored fewer points than we did in conference tonight, and they did it on the road to a Top 25 LSU team.
The issue with Howland continues to be that we can't score enough points to beat quality opponents.
have you seen our pace of play? I think we are 321st in the nation in pace. That's why Howland got fired from UCLA. The fans hated his pace. He tried to speed it up his last 2 years, but he can't coach that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Yeah it's the same ol story year and year out with Howland. Every game we go on long streaks without scoring and it absolutely kills us against better teams. We do it against everyone but can't overcome those droughts against quality competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Yeah we are very boring and hard to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
The biggest mistake Howland made was in the offseason. He didn't bring in a shooter that can play the 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
1 home team lost today, vandy. The sec is tough, and we aren't talented enough to win without our beSt or 2nd best player.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
And we should be running the floor and dominating people with our length and speedQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
That was not a quality opponent tonight. They had their best guy out and this guy Murrell lit up that vaunted Howland Defense that we are supposed to create offense out of.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Edited to add that we went from 1 large guy named Brooks taking up space on the bench to 2 guys named Brooks that should be eating up space on the bench. No wonder Garrison?s Mommy told him where he was going to college. He is so soft, mommy wanted him playing on a finesse team in a finesse league.
Might wanna recheck that. SC won scoring the same total. Offense wasn't the problem... defense was. Freaking Murrell went offQuote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Yeah we seem to always have the athletes to do it but Howland can't seem to coach that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
He lit up Tennessee too. Murrell being hot this week sucks. He'll be garbage again next gameQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Doesn't that happen a good bit to us? Our perimeter D has never been stellar under Howland. It's the way we defend screens. Our Defensive stats can be misleading due to our pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He can't 'coach' .. period! Pitiful.. just pitiful!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
So just to be clear, Howland is in year 7 with a ton of talent, Novac is in year 1 after walking into a terrible situation and Novac has 2 better wins and a much more disciplined/consistent team.
Murrell entered the game as a 36.6% shooter, so I don't think him shooting 10/11 (.91) is normalQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
To your earlier comment about Tolu, Paul said it was not discipline related.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Not defending Howland but State doesn't have any better athletes than most sec school. I'd say State isn't as athletic as some. Murrel went up knowing nobody was blocking his shot. Also nobody could handle #3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Good, but what the hell is so secretive about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
If this season tanks, which looks highly likely, no other evidence needed to prove Howland no longer has the physical or mental energy required and I wouldn't be surprised if laziness and not give a shit hadn't crept in as well. He's prolly missing that So-Cal Cuisine.
I agree with that I'm talking more about the pace of play. We hardly ever run and we move extremely slow on offense. We have enough talented players to run more and use their athleticismQuote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
We're not being COACHED to pick up the pace. Low Energy Coach = Low Energy Team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Yes it's almost like watching paint dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
There's a new cannabis strand called "Moultrie Knee"; I hear it slams...***Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
LMAO. Those were some funny assed threads. "Big Feces" Rocked too. Gotta laugh to keep from cryin' sometimes I reckon.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
We are an offense in slow motion compared to just about every other college basketball team. We don't have much movement to set up shots. It's more like just past the ball around some. It's more of hit and miss (no innovation or creativity) offensive strategy, and it seems to be more misses than hits.
Pretty much the same knock on Ben when he was at UCLA and when we hired him.Quote:
Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
And we don't have any player who is a go to guy for 3s.
This is the reason for the long stretches every game where we don't score points.Quote:
Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
We still run the damn weave.Quote:
Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
Disclaimer: I don't want Howland fired
The constant in that scenario is Howland. He obviously can't get the good out his players anymore and his offense sucks ass and his D now does too. Bye bye for good. I hope they win it all, but I'm done till Howland is gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
Well that was my first game to attend in person this season of MSU basketball and I can honestly say that I know at least 3 or 4 high school coaches who are more efficient teachers of offensive ball movement and moving without the ball on offense. I have no idea what the MSU defensive strategy actually was. There was no anticipation and favoring passing lanes. A better effort was made on D in parts of the 2nd half but Howland never had an answer for the 7 footer which in my view helped the 3 ball shooters have more space. This type effort will lead to no road wins in conference play.