Unless you buy it from tractor Supply and don't know how much to take.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein
Then, you end up shitting your brains out, or in the already packed hospitals....
https://www.mississippifreepress.org...reat-covid-19/
Unless you buy it from tractor Supply and don't know how much to take.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein
Then, you end up shitting your brains out, or in the already packed hospitals....
https://www.mississippifreepress.org...reat-covid-19/
What" effective treatment plan". You mean the non fda approved use of Monoclonal anitbodies? Or do you mean the care you get in a hospital for Covid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboydawg
Or are you talking about Hydroxycholoquine, livestock wormer and sunshine?
I'm all for a good treatment. but not just made up shit you read on facebook...
And since you are so well versed on virus mutation, please explain how the current mutation, Delta has anything to do with vaccination.
The current variant is Delta, It was first found in India in December. India did not begin vaccinations until Mid January. So unless the Delta variant time travels, VAccination had nothing to do with the delta variant.
Again, prevention is more effective than a cure. If I hand you a vial of anthrax, will you open it? There are effective treatments. Or will you Prevent by not opening the vial?
Yeah, well take a whole bottle of aspirin, tylenol, ibuprofen, or countless other OTC meds and let me know how that works out. A bunch of good info on it linked in this article with a meta-analysis from the American Journal of Therapeutics.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
https://www.biznews.com/health/2021/...ctin-treatment
You are missing the point yet making mine for me at the same time. You are so busy with your narrative that you don?t listen to anyone else?therefore you don?t comprehend. Vaccination AND effective treatment are not an either/or deal. Both are needed. Treatment is being neglected. You were ok taking a vaccine not approved by the FDA but you aren?t ok taking a treatment not approved? Hypocritical much?Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
The vaccine is not going to make it go away. It is not that simple. Viruses mutate under pressure. The more they mutate they form new variants. The more people that get vaccinated the more pressure that is being put on the virus to mutate. By the time every person in the country gets vaccinated, a new resistant variant will form. The US is the perfect storm for virus mutation right now and yes that is due to the growing number of vaccinations. Vaccinated people are largely responsible for the spread of the Delta variant. Why? Because the CDC said you are vaccinated so you can take your mask off. Meanwhile, they are walking around sick, maybe asymptomatic with very contagious loads coming out their nose. Oops?put your mask back on. But you knew this would happen right? Surely the CDC did too. Of course unvaccinated people are spreading it too but they are most likely pretty sick and hopefully quarantined.
https://www.realclearscience.com/art...es_791050.html
This is the best article I have read on the subject. It is not an anti-vax piece. It is straight down the middle. It is a family practitioner giving his advice based on the data available. Great read.
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Originally Posted by Cowboydawg
We seem to be talking past each other then, I never said anything about my comfort level of treatments, and only point it out as several on here have rejected the "unproven, unapproved vaccine" only to tout vitamins, Antibodies, and Ivermectin. If you are not in that group, i'm not talking to you.
And for everyone I know of that has been hospitalized for Covid, treatments are not "being neglected". But Coach34 telling a story about a guy going to tractor supply is how we end up with people dead from eating a tube of Horse Wormer. That's not treatment. That's Snake Oil. They make human pills of Ivermectin. That would be treatment.
If enough people are vaccinated, it won't matter. if it "goes away" or not. We vaccinate EVERYONE for MMR and still have US cases of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella. But the number of cases went from 5 million a year to 1,000 a year. Wouldn't that be great for Covid?
As for the effectiveness of the vaccine falling over time, Well we have a prior for that too. How many shot do you need for each vaccine? I know I had 4-5 MMR shot, a tetnus shot every 10 years, 3 hepatatis shots, etc. That we need a 6 -8 month booster is nothing new, or special. If it had not been a pandemic, we might should have spaced dose 1 and 2 further apart, but trying to save lives then made it risky.
I need evidence that "vaccinated people" were maskless more than "unvaccinated people". Because that is not what i saw/am seeing in Texas. When the mask mandates stopped, everyone stopped wearing a mask. I read a blog by an epidemiologist that an MSU Grad I know went to Med School with. https://yourlocalepidemiologist.subs...ain-vaccinated
Vaccinated people are contagious for 6 days, (slightly LESS contagious than unvaxed which are spreading for at least 18 days) and that is new with Delta. So it's not that the "CDC knew and didn't care" it's that Delta changed things. You seem to kinda know that.
So sure Vaccinated people probably are spreading some too, but the unvaccinated are spreading 3x longer, and are more contagious.
So get the shot, wear a mask.
PS. The website that I have been sent to get the right IVM dosage has this ins the FAQ section....
And...Quote:
Masks: the FLCCC position on when to wear them, and when not to wear them.
The aggressive spread of Covid-19 is thought to be primarily due to airborne (aerosol) spread. Inhaling tiny floating droplets directly into the nose/lungs is strongly, but not perfectly, prevented by wearing masks indoors...
It is the opinion of the FLCCC that mask wearing is critical
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About the Covid Vaccines
What is your position on vaccines?
The FLCCC Alliance has always maintained that our protocols are a bridge to vaccines and a safety net for those who clannot or have not been vaccinated or are vaccinated and have concerns regarding declining protection against emerging variants. Vaccines have shown efficacy in preventing the most severe outcomes of COVID-19 and are an important part of a multi-modal strategy that must also include early treatment.
Here is a blog by an Epidemiologist. Since it's more her specialty, Read what she says...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboydawg
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.subs...chive?sort=new
PS. The website that I have been sent to get the right IVM dosage has this ins the FAQ section....
And...Quote:
Masks: the FLCCC position on when to wear them, and when not to wear them.
The aggressive spread of Covid-19 is thought to be primarily due to airborne (aerosol) spread. Inhaling tiny floating droplets directly into the nose/lungs is strongly, but not perfectly, prevented by wearing masks indoors...
It is the opinion of the FLCCC that mask wearing is critical
Quote:
About the Covid Vaccines
What is your position on vaccines?
The FLCCC Alliance has always maintained that our protocols are a bridge to vaccines and a safety net for those who clannot or have not been vaccinated or are vaccinated and have concerns regarding declining protection against emerging variants. Vaccines have shown efficacy in preventing the most severe outcomes of COVID-19 and are an important part of a multi-modal strategy that must also include early treatment.
Why didn't the doctor just write a script for human Ivermectin? It's $16 at walmart for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yeah, because on the side of the injector for horses it says how much a human should take****. It does say how many grams to give per 100 pounds, but that's almost enough to put a human in a coma.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein
And I listed 16 studies that say it doesn't.
If you want to take Ivermectin, find a doctor that will prescribe the human dose. It's cheaper than buying it at tractor supply and you won't accidentally OD on Apple flavor
because he's a redneck from Louisiana that raises cattle. Been dealing with that kind of stuff for yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
But the point is Ivermectin is a great therapeutic with numerous studies to back it up
Its funny how relative "numerous studies" is when arguing for HC, ivermectin, and.....the vaccines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Did you listen or just lemming on?Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
For worms, mites, and lice. It does absolutely nothing for COVID, and that is backed up by numerous double blind studies, you know, the real kind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I listened that one, and a different one with a zoologist that said stop taking wormer for a virusQuote:
Originally Posted by Apoplectic
And funny you use "Lemming" for advocating for an animal wormer...
PS. The website that I have been sent to get the right IVM dosage has this ins the FAQ section....
And...Quote:
Masks: the FLCCC position on when to wear them, and when not to wear them.
The aggressive spread of Covid-19 is thought to be primarily due to airborne (aerosol) spread. Inhaling tiny floating droplets directly into the nose/lungs is strongly, but not perfectly, prevented by wearing masks indoors...
It is the opinion of the FLCCC that mask wearing is critical
Quote:
About the Covid Vaccines
What is your position on vaccines?
The FLCCC Alliance has always maintained that our protocols are a bridge to vaccines and a safety net for those who clannot or have not been vaccinated or are vaccinated and have concerns regarding declining protection against emerging variants. Vaccines have shown efficacy in preventing the most severe outcomes of COVID-19 and are an important part of a multi-modal strategy that must also include early treatment.
He's been dealing with what stuff for years? Wormer? I know rednecks in texas that don't have been dealing raising horses for years, and don't have the sense not to put 2 stallions in a barn with mares in heat. Him deworming his cattle has **** all to do with him knowing how much Ivermectin to use and not kill himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
And again, if he asked a doctor for how much to take, there must be a reason why that same doctor didn't write a prescription for it. A tube of wormer costs more at Tractor supply than the cash price of the people stuff at Walmart.
I'm sure it wasn't the liability****
And I can find as many saying HC, Ivermectin, etc are not effective...
And many saying that the vaccine is at least as effective as the MMR and tetanus vaccines.
PS. The website that I have been sent to get the right IVM dosage has this ins the FAQ section....
And...Quote:
Masks: the FLCCC position on when to wear them, and when not to wear them.
The aggressive spread of Covid-19 is thought to be primarily due to airborne (aerosol) spread. Inhaling tiny floating droplets directly into the nose/lungs is strongly, but not perfectly, prevented by wearing masks indoors...
It is the opinion of the FLCCC that mask wearing is critical
Quote:
About the Covid Vaccines
What is your position on vaccines?
The FLCCC Alliance has always maintained that our protocols are a bridge to vaccines and a safety net for those who clannot or have not been vaccinated or are vaccinated and have concerns regarding declining protection against emerging variants. Vaccines have shown efficacy in preventing the most severe outcomes of COVID-19 and are an important part of a multi-modal strategy that must also include early treatment.
Glad he is ok. But your last sentence sums it up for most that are still hesitant. Thanks for sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
By the CDC definition of a vaccine that it what a vaccine is - you don't contract the disease. So again they continue to lie about the shot. Only reason I call it a vaccine is for the ill informed people who don't know what a vaccine is or a shot. This is only a shot and last year's shot at that. It does almost nothing on the variant. Know vaccinated who have died, hospitalized and good friend got Covid only a month after got vaccinated last week. As Joel says - sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
That's not true. https://www.cdc.gov/healthyschools/b...ine-basics.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
CAN is a legal definition, if they wanted to say what you think it says, they would use the legal term WILLQuote:
Definition of Terms
Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person?s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
There are breakthroughs of all the vaccines. 1200 cases of measles in the us in 2019. https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html 52 cases on mumps in 2021 in US. https://www.cdc.gov/mumps/outbreaks.html 3200 cases of hep B https://www.hhs.gov/hepatitis/learn-...ics/index.html
All of which take 4 to 5 doses...
Also, the vaccine works on the variant.
So continue to be ignorant, or lie about "vaccines"Quote:
Measles and polio breakthrough infections aren't just rare because the vaccines are so effective but also because those who are vaccinated rarely interact with infected people. Even with highly effective vaccines for Covid-19, breakthrough infections are likely to keep happening because the virus is so widespread.
You've done a terrible job of accomplishing what you have set out to do in this thread and every other one I've seen you hop in on this subject. Keep being part of the problem to people who are on the fence and want to do what is best for themselves and others. Millions of people are torn and being socially pressured to do something they deep down don't feel comfortable with. Yet you deem them stupid. What if a teacher called a student stupid. And don't flatter yourself, I'm not holding you to the level of an effective teacher. Does that make the student finally understand and just learn what the teacher was trying to teach? Or cause them to give one shit about what someone who insults you is trying to convince you of? Or does it do the opposite? All it proves is you don't know how to communicate.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
I can assure you that you could possibly connect with someone and convince them what you are saying is correct. Whether it actually is or isn't. That's not the point, and is the entire reason for my post. It could possibly save a life or lives but it also could take one in the future.
But your attempts are always looking down your nose at others who are just too stupid to comprehend what someone like yourself who can link articles backing up their opinion with more opinion that change weekly yet are stated as facts.
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Originally Posted by StateDawg44
I'm not calling those hesitant about the vaccines stupid, I'm calling out those that make up lies or are completely ignorant about all vaccines stupid.
If someone is looking to a random poster on a messge board for the education they need to get treatment for any medical issue, then that's their issue. They should talk to a doctor. But when someone is being an idiot, I am qualified to say "you are a dumbass to take horse wormer, get the people version", and when those anti vaxx, anti mask people send me a " but I know the dosage from this website", and that website says " wear a mask and get vaccinated", well, what's the issue.
It's been going on for far too long. and it's the same idiots. If they were not going to wear a mask, take hydroxy, not get vaccinated, and take horse wormer, then maybe it's God telling them they shouldn't live.
and you finish up by showing you don't know how scientific progress works versus random idiots on the internet opinions.
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Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
Ah there it is. Thanks for proving my point again. You don't have to use the word "stupid" to imply you are calling someone stupid.
Yet, here you are still attempting to convince "these idiots" as if you are some authority on the internet or someone should believe you because you are "qualified" to explain a virus and how to or how not to treat it. One that no one anywhere else seems to be able to pin down or explain or confirm anything on. ESPECIALLY how to treat it.
You can show me a link that says it doesn't work. The next guy can show another link that says the complete opposite. Both backed by studies. Yet yours is special because you KNOW yours is right.
Thankfully ED has you to set it all straight though. You're no more effective than Shotgun using the word "twitch" to describe something. I'm sure I'm not effective either at what I'm saying to you. But I'll stop now. Because I know you won't listen since you already know it all.
Just thought I'd share a bit of good news.... as I predicted about two weeks ago we starting to see some leveling off of cases and hospitalizations. 7 day average is lower in cases as well. My predictions over these next two weeks is you will see numbers to trend down again. Can't rule out a day or so where numbers might inflate due to late reporting but be encouraged that we are getting better in the Sipp!
More Ivermectin news- Dr’s wrote 88K scripts in 1 week for it. I’ll go with them over SheltonChoked
https://twitter.com/aapsonline/statu...503928328?s=21
Indian Bar Association suing WHO for misinformation (aka lying) about Ivermectin
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opin...cbb3b4dfa.html
Anybody that can’t see Big Pharma is paying these government pawns is being willfully blind
Ivermectin --- This medication is used to treat certain parasitic roundworm infections.
There are definitely some that post on here that could use a good worming!!
And a script is not the same as you telling people to go to tractor supply and getting horse wormer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Stick with coffee pyramid schemes.
I didn't call you an idiot or stupid. I said you didn't know how Scientific progress works. Because you said don't. Or at least your wrote that you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
I'm not attempting to convince anyone anymore. I'm telling people not to use horse wormer when when they can see a doctor to get it cheaper. If someone posts that they recommend black tar heroin for their kids headaches because " they talked to a doctor, and he gave them the dose" it's the same stuff and screws big Pharma , I'll tell them to 17'ing stop as well.
All I want if for people to follow what we KNOW works. Get the vaccine, Wear a mask inside, and Increase ventilation of inside spaces.
But again, if you don't know all of that after everything that has happened since March 2020, then no one on the internet is going to convince you. No matter how nice they are or how much of an asshole they are.
The vaccine doesn't work the way it's advertised therefore it's actually not working.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
Neither do the masks that people are wearing. I'm sure they help some. I'll wear a mask if you want me to wear one in the grocery store or if I take an uber. I can respect that. Absolutely not outside though.
Not sure what you are even suggesting or expecting people do on the last one.
The vaccine works exactly that way, and it's working just as well as the MMR, Hep, polio, and every other required vaccine, ever. I'm not sure how it is "advertised". It's a vaccine. It reduces your likelihood of getting the disease, reduces transmission of the virus, and dying of the disease, by A LOT.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
There you with a straw man. I never said wear ineffective masks, again we have been doing this since 19 months now. If you don't know to wear an N95 or at least a nonwoven surgical mask by now, I cannot help you.
I'm saying that if the places have MERV 13+ air filters, and at least 4 air turns an hour of outside air in a room, the transmision of Covid19 is greatly decreased. Again, we have been doing this since 19 months now...
Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
It does help with symptoms sometimes in some cases I guess. The rest, sorry. Still TBD. 6 months in, needing a booster and already talks of more boosters. Yeah, very efficient.
In a perfect make believe world everyone would have a N95 masks I guess maybe? Why don't we try to be realistic and have realistic expectations though? Expecting everyone on Earth to have access to an N95 mask is a straw man argument lolz. Step out of your bubble and live life instead of living in fear. You're vaxed I assume? You're safe without a mask if so. No?
"The places"? Meaning everywhere you go? Let's start mandating MERV 13+ air filters too and 4 hour air turns too.***
The COVID vaccines are hardly the first vaccines (let alone medicine application) to requires boosters or repeated doses down the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Ok. A booster is required. Every 6 months? Do you actually think people will keep going and maintain "vaccinated" status that often with the results so far? Can't even get the majority of people to get on board for the initial 2 or even just 1. Much less when it's not really working and proves more and more we have essentially just become guinea pigs. We'll see what happens when we get there if something goes wrong I guess. Then how will they blame the unvaccinated or people who just want to wait 3-5 years like every other vaccine has taken for approval. Not some made up pressured "Emergency Rush Approval"Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Anything else to add that matters and pertains to this vaccine since this virus isn't like any other virus we've faced with modern medicine? And this vaccine isn't delivered the same as any that have been used before on humans so again, not comparable to previous vaccines.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
You got 4-5 MMR vaccines and the effectiveness vs Measles and Mumps is still 94%. The difference is 99.99% of americans have gotten 4-5 MMR vaccines.
Why is it a perfect make believe world? You can get 100 of them from Amazon tomorrow. Every store I have been in in the past 6 months have had them at the door and at the register.
I was fully vaxxed in March. Until Delta, I didn't have to wear a mask. I am now when I'm inside.
Most places have. Schools and office buildings here have upgraded the filtration.
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/index.c...nts_-_2020.pdf
You had to have 5 doses of DTap, 4 doses of polio, 3 doses of Hepatitis B, 3 doses of MMR, and 2 doses of Chickenpox.
I'm not aware of any single dose vaccine, why do you expect one for Covid?
And the rest of your post is made up. And Pfizer has full approval, with more data than any other vaccine to get approval.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
Nearly everyone gets chickenpox still. I'm not anti-vax. I would guess most of those had been proven effective and very minimal side effects well before I was born. Plenty of time for kinks to be found.... and they work.
Which Covid/Variant? How many are there now? The first vaccine isn't effective on Delta. What about the 3rd mutation? Or the 4th? What about the "doomsday" variant that is sprinkled out there or looming?
Did the diseases you listed spread and mutate to stronger virus' like Covid did? What's happened is some what atypical from most virus behavior right?
Yeah... "Full Approval" from the FDA. Great! Everything's good now. No pressure has been put on them either, just like no pressure on citizens. I doubt money was involved in getting theirs through quicker either.
The perfect make believe part you seem to think is attainable would be nothing less than a utopia and everyone agreeing that masks are effective. It doesn't exist and never will, has, or can.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
I'm having to explain to you that we all including yourself live in reality.
Ok, the rest of your post notwithstanding, but wtf are you talking about here?Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
ISN'T EFFECTIVE ON DELTA? Yes, people vaccinated can still catch it...but its rare....and those few that do catch it have much less severe symptoms....those few that do have severe symptoms rarely have to go into the ICU...those few that do go into the ICU, very few get put on a ventilator...those few that do get put on a ventilator, very very very few have died, and the majority (if not all) of those deaths have been attributed to other debilitating factors with those individuals.
I mean, holy shit dude. Why do you insist on dying on this hill?
I guess "totally effective" would be a better choice of words. Let's try to twist words and make people seem like they are being extreme though. Let me try....Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
So your scenario paints the false picture that 100% of the people who don't get the vaccine will wind up with severe symptoms. And in the hospital. On the vent. And eventually die. Obviously that's false. But since we are working in extremes to "die" on our hills then why not go there?
Will they all wind up in ICU? Absolutely not. The absolute vast majority and it's not even an argument will be just fine. In the grand scheme of things, small samples that contract the virus will actually wind up in the hospital and get put on the ventilator also. There are lots out there that are. I understand and that is awful. But there are 100 fold more recovering just fine and most will recover at their house that have made the same choice. And after getting sent back home with no actual treatment when they do visit a doctor. Fractions of fractions wind up like some of you make it seem like it's a guarantee. Without a doubt to some.
So how many of those individuals that didn't get the vax also had "other debilitating factors" prior to getting Covid? That's certainly not recorded or reported.
Yes, the vaccination has proven to help with symptoms. Absolutely. I'm not saying don't get it if someone want to. But it still allows people with the shot to asymptomatically spread it to others. What happened to the vaccination being there to slow or stop the spread? Especially when the vaccinated can spread it. Has the narrative changed to just..... get it, or else?
I literally quoted exactly what you said. I didn't twist anything. Literally no vaccine in the world is "totally effective". You're framing everything via strawman...Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
The vast majority of people that are in hospitals, that are on ventilators, and that are dying are indeed the unvaccinated. Just because you are unvaccinated doesn't guarantee 100% that these things WILL happen to you (where exactly did I say that in my previous post?), but you ARE more likely compared with the vaccinated.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
And who else will they transmit it to in the meantime? Maybe they're fine, but their diabetes stricken obese mother-in-law with 2 stints in her heart already, might not be. Yes, vaccinated people can still spread COVID, albeit it is extremely rare. The only reason some do is because Delta is extremely more contagious than the previous version, and extremely more dangerous to if you're unvaccinated.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
And again, when did I say that if you're unvaccinated you WILL end up in the ICU? You're using phrases like "vast majority", so I assume you have at least some grasp on basic statistics, no?
In many cases is is actually recorded. Not only that, but it has been made abundantly clear that those with poor health, debilitating factors, ect. are the most vulnerable literally from the get-go. All the more reason to get the vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
You really think the vaccine is only to "help with symptoms"? And again, I see you're using the circular strawman of "vaccinated spread it too, so what's the point"...see above.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
It's really simple. If you get vaccinated, not only do you SIGNIFICANTLY decrease the chance that you will have debilitating symptoms, end up in a hospital, in an ICU, on a ventilator, or dead...you will also SIGNIFICANTLY decrease the chance you'll spread it to someone who either isn't vaccinated or is but is so poor in health, it can still do damage.
No. They don't. I'm Gen X, pre vaccine everyone got chickenpox. I have 2 kids, their elementary (Pre-k to 5th grade) school had 950 kids, in their 12 combined years there, not a single case of chickenpox.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
The chickenpox vaccine is new (introduced to us in 1995). It's only 95% effective, but since 100% of public school kids have to get it, it works very well.
The Mrna vaccine was first developed for Sars/Mers 20 years ago. It was not finished due to funding cuts. That's why the Covid vaccines were able to get out so quickly, they had decades of work on a similar vaccine ready to go.
The first vaccine is very effective on Delta. That's why 99% of people in hospitals are unvaccinated. Breakthough among the fully vaccinated is 5.9% at most in the usa https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/cov...om-the-states/ (which is as good as MMR and Chickenpox)
Again, the solution is Herd Immunity via vaccination against all your "variant doomsday situations". It's just math. If everyone is vaccinated, and 10% the new bad variant has a 10% breakthrough rate, that's 100 for every 1000, then it's 10 of those 100, than 1 of those 10. Remember, when the vaccine works, exposure creates stronger immunity.
All diseases mutate. And none were able to be beat by natural exposure. It took vaccines.
And of course you don't trust full approval.
Just know this, getting Alpha naturally, does not protect you from Delta.