Football is over for us and schools like us

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

I don't think it is going to make that big of a difference. Cannon Motors might pay a Ole Miss player if he pans out to be good but not anyone coming out of high school. Business are not going to throw money away. I think they are going to have to be proven. At first there will be mistakes made giving money to unproven guys but they will learn. I just think nothing has changed. The Supreme Court did not say the schools had to pay the players it only said college athletes can make money off their name and images. You have to be good to get the big contracts and those guys were going to Bama and LSU anyways. Where it might be trouble a guy turns out to be good and some advertiser tell him he has to transfer to Bama as part of the contract. Who knows if enough schools gets pissed off the NCAA might change the transfer rules back to what they use to be if it gets out of hand.

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I'm not as concerned about in coming freshman as much as proven players who have a year or two left in college will go to a school which can offer a better deal!

I will say it again, agents will play a part especially in basketball. They already give "free advice" to baseball and basketball stars.

I don’t care how much money we raise for players, the Bama’s of the world can top us ten fold. We only had a chance to be competitive in football when the playing field was somewhat level financially. That day is long gone. What we need to do is commit 20-25 football scholarships to two way Football/baseball players. Find the pitcher who played football his high school freshman year and put him on scholarship. Put every two way player on IR during football season so they don’t get hurt or let them all be the kickoff coverage team. Do you honestly think we will win more games with 85 scholarships vs 65 scholarships in the future we face?

Transfer situations getting interesting. Did bama cave and drop $1.2M due to a transfer threat? Should sitting out a year return?

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Originally Posted by basedog

I'm not as concerned about in coming freshman as much as proven players who have a year or two left in college will go to a school which can offer a better deal!

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So you dont think Boosters will start sponsoring 4 and 5 star recruits during their Sr year of HS? I do. And now there arent any repercussions

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Originally Posted by Coach34

So you dont think Boosters will start sponsoring 4 and 5 star recruits their Sr year of HS? I do. And now there arent any repercussions

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Unfortunately you are right. One of my issues with this shit is that it doesn't reflect true advertising costs. What percent of general consumers keeps up with crootin?

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Originally Posted by Coach34

So you dont think Boosters will start sponsoring 4 and 5 star recruits during their Sr year of HS? I do. And now there arent any repercussions

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I think you are underestimating the MHSAA and the school districts. I know places like Rankin and Madison would never go for that

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I think you are underestimating the MHSAA and the school districts. I know places like Rankin and Madison would never go for that

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Not if a judge says otherwise.

Jesus replied, “And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them.

Luke 11:46

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Originally Posted by Coach34

So you dont think Boosters will start sponsoring 4 and 5 star recruits during their Sr year of HS? I do. And now there arent any repercussions

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I did t say they want, just saying a proven player will get a good day one year deal in the free agent market.

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Originally Posted by basedog

I'm not as concerned about in coming freshman as much as proven players who have a year or two left in college will go to a school which can offer a better deal!

I will say it again, agents will play a part especially in basketball. They already give "free advice" to baseball and basketball stars.

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Exactly how I see it as well! And agents can be paid by the sponsors. There is absolutely no stopping this. Think the NFL without contracts and without salary cap, the players are unproven, and donors call all the shots.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I think you are underestimating the MHSAA and the school districts. I know places like Rankin and Madison would never go for that

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The problem is this will become a lawsuit if they try and stop it.

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

It’s going to be a complete shit show..

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This could be the Webster's definition of "disaster", "dumpster fire" or "abomination"

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I think you are underestimating the MHSAA and the school districts. I know places like Rankin and Madison would never go for that

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They won?t have a choice. AAU and 7 on 7?s already have sponsors. Now it will just be individual.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

They won?t have a choice. AAU and 7 on 7?s already have sponsors. Now it will just be individual.

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Im with you in that im concerned it hurts the sport but just dont think it will change that much. Only the stars and your QBs are going to get anything.

The one thing the media and some of the kids dont want people to know is that they were already getting paid. They are already getting a stipend every month to do what they want to do with on top of housing food education clothes whatever else. But you will never hear that on Gameday

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Originally Posted by msugolf

At first thought you would think so. But it also could be a big problem down the line for those blue bloods. The worst thing that can happen to someone (especially young kids) is to get some money and get comfortable. If you take away that motivation or desire to succeed at the next level then they'll become complacent. Meanwhile the guys that didn't get as much and are still out to prove themselves will continue to work. Also, handing over a bunch of money to people who aren't mature enough to handle it can cause all sorts of ego and attitude problems. Maybe potential locker room issues.

So I can see both sides of it coming into play.

However, I lean to it hurting us more than helping. But my interest in cfball has dwindled mightily past few years so might as well put the nail in the coffin. Eventually people will tire of seeing the same 4-5 teams at the top and ratings will decline

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I've already tired of seeing the same teams at the top every year. The playoff has bored the hell out of me lately. Just don't care. I think we need to accept that we're a baseball school and throw everything we have at that, then just take whatever we get in football.

Isn't it limited to current student athletes, not prospective? Meaning recruits.

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Originally Posted by ArrowDawg

I've already tired of seeing the same teams at the top every year. The playoff has bored the hell out of me lately. Just don't care. I think we need to accept that we're a baseball school and throw everything we have at that, then just take whatever we get in football.

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Are you French?

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Isn't it limited to current student athletes, not prospective? Meaning recruits.

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There is no more amateurism. You can't limit it at this point.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

There is no more amateurism. You can't limit it at this point.

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From what I've read, I find two things interesting. One, most high school associations have a rule that prevents an athlete from receiving payment related to his activities as an athlete. I wonder if the mhsaa has such a rule.
Two, the ncaa rule allows for recruits "to engage in the same type of NIL opportunities available to current student athletes" but specifically says those opportunities may not be used as recruiting endorsements. Does that mean a booster, as defined by the NCAA, cannot provide an NIL opportunity for a high school athlete?

I hope no one is surprised that college sports isn't unreachable by the swirling slick of sewage that has become every other part of life in the 21st century..

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Originally Posted by confucius say

From what I've read, I find two things interesting. One, most high school associations have a rule that prevents an athlete from receiving payment related to his activities as an athlete. I wonder if the mhsaa has such a rule.
Two, the ncaa rule allows for recruits "to engage in the same type of NIL opportunities available to current student athletes" but specifically says those opportunities may not be used as recruiting endorsements. Does that mean a booster, as defined by the NCAA, cannot provide an NIL opportunity for a high school athlete?

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Whats to stop the top recruited QB in the state from taking an advertisement deal after his last game at QB? What they gonna do- kick him out of math class?

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Whats to stop the top recruited QB in the state from taking an advertisement deal after his last game at QB? What they gonna do- kick him out of math class?

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No bc the mhsaa wouldn't be tied to his Ducati on anyway. They may keep him from playing basketball or baseball in the spring.
Plus, by the time his last game is over I'm guessing he is already committed and weeks away from signing.

I think the bigger issue is how the ncaa will handle it if a booster of school X provides an NIL opportunity to Joe and then Joe signs with school X, bc that certainly appears to be a recruiting endorsement, which is specifically not allowed by the rule

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I think you are underestimating the MHSAA and the school districts. I know places like Rankin and Madison would never go for that

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You are bringing to light Rankin and Madison when this new evolution is a NATIONAL THING. Coach34 is giving many a heads up on high school football issues as NATIONAL high school football is rained down on Mississippi and the rest of the country. Getting some law and order within the game is going to be problematic when the government, courts, and public has lost respect for the NCAA and State Governing boards. For fellow elite doggers, do you know that the Nevada State Legislature almost passed a resolution against Bishop Gorman High School Football baring all Nevada programs from playing them? Bishop Gorman was almost relegated to play their whole schedule out of State? Buckle up you seat belts, it's going to get crazy.

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Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg

Competing, shit where have you been. We get a 3* bama gets a 5*, If we had a 4* committed they will leave at the next better offer. State has to learn their place and only go after 3*'s. Committed doesn't mean jack shit anymore. State has been in the SEC to provide wins for the big boys, and for that state gets a check. No more No less. Sorry about the rant but I am pissed at the democrats and all they get away with, kind of like the scummy rebel bears. *************

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hard to argue against this.

This may have already been posted but - this is crazy and we are just starting NIL:


Alabama football coach Nick Saban hasn't officially named Bryce Young the Crimson Tide's starting quarterback, and yet Saban says that Young is already approaching $1 million in endorsement deals.

According to reports, Saban told the Texas High School Coaches Association's convention on Tuesday that Young, a sophomore, is due to make "ungodly numbers."

While Saban wouldn't divulge the specifics of the deals Young has signed, Saban said the total compensation is "almost seven figures."

"And it's like, the guy hasn't even played yet," Saban said, according to The Athletic. "But that's because of our brand."

Asked at SEC media days about Young's potential compensation, Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin said, "That number just blew me away.

"He's made $1 million, and he hasn't started a game yet? Wow.

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

This may have already been posted but - this is crazy and we are just starting NIL:


Alabama football coach Nick Saban hasn't officially named Bryce Young the Crimson Tide's starting quarterback, and yet Saban says that Young is already approaching $1 million in endorsement deals.

According to reports, Saban told the Texas High School Coaches Association's convention on Tuesday that Young, a sophomore, is due to make "ungodly numbers."

While Saban wouldn't divulge the specifics of the deals Young has signed, Saban said the total compensation is "almost seven figures."

"And it's like, the guy hasn't even played yet," Saban said, according to The Athletic. "But that's because of our brand."

Asked at SEC media days about Young's potential compensation, Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin said, "That number just blew me away.

"He's made $1 million, and he hasn't started a game yet? Wow.

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Did Kiffin say that tounge in cheek? I mean who the hell writes his checks?

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Did Kiffin say that tounge in cheek? I mean who the hell writes his checks?

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The quote want not just from Kiffin but supposedly from Saban himself.

"Alabama football coach Nick Saban hasn't officially named Bryce Young the Crimson Tide's starting quarterback, and yet Saban says that Young is already approaching $1 million in endorsement deals."

I wish I knew who wrote the checks!

With some of these "amateur" athletes going to make much more $ than me under NIL, scholarships should be based on need and they pay their share or all. Real game changer in more ways than one! Signed 50 plus years season ticket holder and Bulldog Club member. If I wanted to watch pro games I would go to Nashville or maybe Atlanta. Concerned/Hail State!