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Well, it sure seems like nothing but innuendo re Kylin.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

See I completely disagree with this. Kylin doesn't get it and yesterday didn't look bought in. I mentioned this to multiple people yesterday but Kylin gives up 2 yards on virtually every catch because he's trying to juke guys. His job is to get yards. And there's a huge difference in 2nd and 8 and 2nd and 6. And Hill constantly gave up yards trying to be pretty.

He's not a grinder. He's not gritty. He plays pretty. He likes to look good. And Leach doesn't like that. Leach likes 2 extra yards, not someone trying to dance all over the place. He doesn't look like he's bought in. It was easy for him 2 weeks ago. Got a little harder and he didn't do what was necessary for the Leach offense.

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For a minute there I thought you were talking about #4. However there is something going on between KJ and a couple of the receivers. And #5 needs to put out a helluva lot more effort if he ever wants to play int the NFL.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

See I completely disagree with this. Kylin doesn't get it and yesterday didn't look bought in. I mentioned this to multiple people yesterday but Kylin gives up 2 yards on virtually every catch because he's trying to juke guys. His job is to get yards. And there's a huge difference in 2nd and 8 and 2nd and 6. And Hill constantly gave up yards trying to be pretty.

He's not a grinder. He's not gritty. He plays pretty. He likes to look good. And Leach doesn't like that. Leach likes 2 extra yards, not someone trying to dance all over the place. He doesn't look like he's bought in. It was easy for him 2 weeks ago. Got a little harder and he didn't do what was necessary for the Leach offense.

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I despise the whole idea of dancing ass running backs.

Did you watch the Auburn game? If Josh Robinson was the bowling ball, Tank Williams is the pinball. You hit him, he bounces right off and keeps on going. He doesn't run you over, he just makes you look stupid on the field.

I wish we had a guy like him.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Anytime one unit is performing so poorly there's going to be issues. Then you have Leach who is in charge of that unit and he is unwilling to change.

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Until they execute what Leach tells them to execute Leach don't need to change. You gonna tell Saban to change after 3 games if ain't working?

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Originally Posted by Mobile Bay

I despise the whole idea of dancing ass running backs.

Did you watch the Auburn game? If Josh Robinson was the bowling ball, Tank Williams is the pinball. You hit him, he bounces right off and keeps on going. He doesn't run you over, he just makes you look stupid on the field.

I wish we had a guy like him.

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Or Najee Harris.

If I remember correctly, didn't Boobie have a tendency to dance around a little?

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

I think Cooter has handled it really well on how he reported this, and then a few throw certain name(s) out there and assume (ass u me) it is a certain player. Some need to remember there are some who read this board that don't have MSU's best interest in mind too.

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well what do you expect to happen when someone does the "well I heard this but I ain't mentioning any names but..." then doesn't disagree if someone else guesses wrong. This cryptic shit gets so tiring. Have the balls to mention names or STFU.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yeah I'm guessing the players got used to "uncle Joe" kissing their butt and ain't happy with leach cracking the whip.

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That won't work actually anywhere, but especially in the South and the SEC. It will come back to bite those coaches in the butt. As it did. It didn't work for OM back when some of those prima donnas were basically running the OM football program. Arguing and telling coaches what they were going to do and not do.

One thing I have heard this year, that I have never heard before, is a player calling his coach by his last name at a media press conference or interview. and not Coach or Coach Whoever. That may be a California thing but it sure seems to be very disrespectful to your coach in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

One thing I have heard this year, that I have never heard before, is a player calling his coach by his last name at a media press conference or interview. and not Coach or Coach Whoever. That may be a California thing but it sure seems to be very disrespectful to your coach in my opinion.

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Who did that? Costello?

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Who did that? Costello?

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

That won't work actually anywhere, but especially in the South and the SEC. It will come back to bite those coaches in the butt. As it did. It didn't work for OM back when some of those prima donnas were basically running the OM football program. Arguing and telling coaches what they were going to do and not do.

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Yep.

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Or Najee Harris.

If I remember correctly, didn't Boobie have a tendency to dance around a little?

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A little, but he would lay a shoulder. And don't forget his egg bowl leap

As far as Najee Harriss, I think they inject him with horse testosterone before every game.

Talked to a former player who played under Bellard. He basically said Leach should never put up with the players crap and he needs to crack the whip.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

One thing I have heard this year, that I have never heard before, is a player calling his coach by his last name at a media press conference or interview. and not Coach or Coach Whoever. That may be a California thing but it sure seems to be very disrespectful to your coach in my opinion.

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I've also thought it was strange, but assumed Coach Leach must be OK with it, or it would be corrected immediately. I've seen 4 or 5 interviews where KJ just calls him "Leach."

I remember (either from his book or just from interviews) that Leach is big on discipline, but on stuff that he thinks matters, not necessarily what others think matters. Like he doesn't care what players do with their hair or beards and doesn't use that as punishment. Perhaps calling him "Leach" is something that doesn't bother him?

I still see the Mitchell thing different than some of y’all. The defensive player had a stronger position relative to the ball to me and those pass are generally thrown up high so the wr doesn’t have to reach around the body of the defender to get it. It’s hard me to look at that play and call it total lack of effort

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

One thing I have heard this year, that I have never heard before, is a player calling his coach by his last name at a media press conference or interview. and not Coach or Coach Whoever. That may be a California thing but it sure seems to be very disrespectful to your coach in my opinion.

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Yes, I thought that was very strange.

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Originally Posted by Skydawg1

Yes, I thought that was very strange.

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When I was in professional school on the West Coast in Seattle my teacher told me not to call her ma'am or Mrs. because it was disrespectful and was like calling her an old woman. So I think it's a west coast thing.

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

I still see the Mitchell thing different than some of y’all. The defensive player had a stronger position relative to the ball to me and those pass are generally thrown up high so the wr doesn’t have to reach around the body of the defender to get it. It’s hard me to look at that play and call it total lack of effort

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A lot of QB's are taught to throw the ball low if the receiver is at the front of the goal line. Osiris should have never lost that ball whether it was thrown high or low.

After reading 5 pages of code I've pretty much come up with the conclusion that: 1) players need to stfu and do what their coach tells them because he was hired to be in charge and run the show(and out of respect because he is the coach) 2) if players don't stfu and give 100% they can hit the damn road and start playing the players who have guts and will play all out for Leach

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

When I was in professional school on the West Coast in Seattle my teacher told me not to call her ma'am or Mrs. because it was disrespectful and was like calling her an old woman. So I think it's a west coast thing.

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There was a 4-star testifying before Congress a few years ago (the Senate, I think), and the general referred to the female senator who was questioning him as "ma'am". She jumped his butt right there - told him to call her "Senator". I thought that was really poor behavior on her part. I think she was from California, may have been Feinstein. He was just being courteous. I'm sure he would call the male senators "sir".

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

After reading 5 pages of code I've pretty much come up with the conclusion that: 1) players need to stfu and do what their coach tells them because he was hired to be in charge and run the show(and out of respect because he is the coach) 2) if players don't stfu and give 100% they can hit the damn road and start playing the players who have guts and will play all out for Leach

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Maybe leach should show up on time to his own team meetings**

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

After reading 5 pages of code I've pretty much come up with the conclusion that: 1) players need to stfu and do what their coach tells them because he was hired to be in charge and run the show(and out of respect because he is the coach) 2) if players don't stfu and give 100% they can hit the damn road and start playing the players who have guts and will play all out for Leach

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Nope

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Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19

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It's not the first time it's happened.

Cam Akers went to FSU. Kylin Hill chose Mississippi State when he could have gone many places. Maybe his career hasn't gone exactly as some of you fans think it should have gone but it's a shitty look to bash him as much as he gets bashed by some of you.
If Coach Leach has a problem he needs to deal with it and get it over with instead of throwing something cryptic out at a press conference following the most embarrassing performance of his career.
Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Mobile Bay

I despise the whole idea of dancing ass running backs.

Did you watch the Auburn game? If Josh Robinson was the bowling ball, Tank Williams is the pinball. You hit him, he bounces right off and keeps on going. He doesn't run you over, he just makes you look stupid on the field.

I wish we had a guy like him.

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Heck I was hoping Max Borghi would follow Leach to State. Good back for what Leach does.

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

I still see the Mitchell thing different than some of y?all. The defensive player had a stronger position relative to the ball to me and those pass are generally thrown up high so the wr doesn?t have to reach around the body of the defender to get it. It?s hard me to look at that play and call it total lack of effort

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Mitchell has a history of poor effort and poor attitude so he's lost the benefit of the doubt.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

It's not the first time it's happened.

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Leach was probably trying to show the players what it feels like when they don't show up.**

Good lord, it's only 2 losses.

Leach has a great track record and will get this figured out.

Trust that and stop whining. It's bullshit

If people are thinking about quitting after 2 losses, and that's what it is because not a damn one of them wanted to quit after LSU, then 17 them. They're the most mentally weak group I've ever seen.

JoMo ruined the culture and it'll take a little time to fix.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Nope

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So players should say F the coach? If the coach is not doing his job, then fire him with cause. Is he not doing his job?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Good lord, it's only 2 losses.

Leach has a great track record and will get this figured out.

Trust that and stop whining. It's bullshit

If people are thinking about quitting after 2 losses, and that's what it is because not a damn one of them wanted to quit after LSU, then 17 them. They're the most mentally weak group I've ever seen.

JoMo ruined the culture and it'll take a little time to fix.

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Many of our fans wanted to fire Cohen after year one too as a baseball coach.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Good lord, it's only 2 losses.

Leach has a great track record and will get this figured out.

Trust that and stop whining. It's bullshit

If people are thinking about quitting after 2 losses, and that's what it is because not a damn one of them wanted to quit after LSU, then 17 them. They're the most mentally weak group I've ever seen.

JoMo ruined the culture and it'll take a little time to fix.

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I'm thinking like you. JoMo castrated some of these guys.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Many of our fans wanted to fire Cohen after year one too as a baseball coach.

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Dumbasses

Just complete dumbasses

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Good lord, it's only 2 losses.

Leach has a great track record and will get this figured out.

Trust that and stop whining. It's bullshit

If people are thinking about quitting after 2 losses, and that's what it is because not a damn one of them wanted to quit after LSU, then 17 them. They're the most mentally weak group I've ever seen.

JoMo ruined the culture and it'll take a little time to fix.

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Have you seen how people on this board whine and complain and many have called for Leach's head after game 3? It goes to show just how crazy and unreasonable people have become. If people are acting like that on this board (some of which appears like they have MSU connections although IDK for sure) I'm not confident that our administration will handle this appropriately. Mullen had the benefit of following Croom but the success we found under Mullen has given some people on here the idea that we are beyond where we were not even a decade ago. You'd think the way people have hammered JoMo and now Leach that they took over a team that won SEC championships and competed for National Titles. We never won the SEC and after a miracle 2014 the wheels fell off after Bama and we dropped to OM and GT in the bowl. Heck we only finished above .500 in conference play one time under Mullen in 9 years and the rest we were at best middle of the pack. Some of our fanbase after tasting a little bit of success have been absolutely toxic since Mullen.

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Have you seen how people on this board whine and complain and many have called for Leach's head after game 3? It goes to show just how crazy and unreasonable people have become. If people are acting like that on this board (some of which appears like they have MSU connections although IDK for sure) I'm not confident that our administration will handle this appropriately. Mullen had the benefit of following Croom but the success we found under Mullen has given some people on here the idea that we are beyond where we were not even a decade ago. You'd think the way people have hammered JoMo and now Leach that they took over a team that won SEC championships and competed for National Titles. We never won the SEC and after a miracle 2014 the wheels fell off after Bama and we dropped to OM and GT in the bowl. Heck we only finished above .500 in conference play one time under Mullen in 9 years and the rest we were at best middle of the pack. Some of our fanbase after tasting a little bit of success have been absolutely toxic since Mullen.

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Yes. People would never lack perspective like this in their real jobs. It does explain why the divorce rate is so high though.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Yes. People would never lack perspective like this in their real jobs. It does explain why the divorce rate is so high though.

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+1 and rep given!

One comment on KJ is that Leach is going to put the QB on the field who he thinks gives him the best chance to win. He is not worried about hurting anyone's feelings. If he thinks Will Rogers is our best QB he will put him in and will sit the 5th year SR. Just because you are a grad transfer it doesn't automatically entitle you to the starting position. Would be pretty weird if a true FR was already ahead of a guy that's a graduate transfer P5 starting QB, but if he is, I don't think Leach will hesitate to play him. One thing that others have pointed out is that the Leach system is very similar to what Rogers played in HS. Its a brand new animal for Costello who has pretty much always been a strict pro set QB.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Good lord, it's only 2 losses.

Leach has a great track record and will get this figured out.

Trust that and stop whining. It's bullshit

If people are thinking about quitting after 2 losses, and that's what it is because not a damn one of them wanted to quit after LSU, then 17 them. They're the most mentally weak group I've ever seen.

JoMo ruined the culture and it'll take a little time to fix.

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This is the proper perspective. Ain't gonna fix what JoMo tore up overnight.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

One comment on KJ is that Leach is going to put the QB on the field who he thinks gives him the best chance to win. He is not worried about hurting anyone's feelings. If he thinks Will Rogers is our best QB he will put him in and will sit the 5th year SR. Just because you are a grad transfer it doesn't automatically entitle you to the starting position. Would be pretty weird if a true FR was already ahead of a guy that's a graduate transfer P5 starting QB, but if he is, I don't think Leach will hesitate to play him. One thing that others have pointed out is that the Leach system is very similar to what Rogers played in HS. Its a brand new animal for Costello who has pretty much always been a strict pro set QB.

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And Rogers has been sidelined by COVID. And Shrader moved to receiver so it kind of defaulted to Costello.

Wow I'm out of the Red! Thanks!