Masks or no masks, this is still gonna spread. If anything, the masks will lengthen the time it takes to run its course. You people thinking masks are an instant solution are nieve at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joebob
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Masks or no masks, this is still gonna spread. If anything, the masks will lengthen the time it takes to run its course. You people thinking masks are an instant solution are nieve at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joebob
If masks were the Harry Potter wand they're made out to be we would have been encouraged to wear them every flu season before now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Zero bullshit. People could have acted differently and the cases would be much lower... like every other civilized country. Yeah, and 17 the 1% that might die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Protest encouraged? By that evil media? Lolz
https://i.postimg.cc/cJN6xD9W/IMG-0811.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We're are the laughing stock of the world.
And the death rate just keeps on dropping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/d...-3-day-average
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Originally Posted by Mobile Bay
And IF it's starts going up we'll just blame the hospitals for inflating the numbers for cash, right?
The populations of those countries together is approx. 255 million. The US has over 380 million. Testing is far more accessible than three months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
You cannot hide from a virus. You cannot wait it out.
I work in the medical field. All three of my MDs say this whole thing is all BULLSHIT.
People could have acted differently and the cases would be lower, for now. It's not clear how sustainable that is. And it's not clear how much worse the damage to the economy would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
We probably won't have a good idea of who handled it the best for another year or maybe even two depending on how long people keep modifying their behavior, and we see how many excess deaths there were over time and how everybody's economy did, and even then, it will be hard to figure out. For example, we're going to have a decent number of excess deaths from demoralizing so many of our police departments in relatively violent cities. Somebody is going to have to do the work of trying to determine which excess deaths, such as suicide, are probably meaningfully driven by our covid response, and which excess deaths, like increased murders in inner cities where police are under fire, are not. And then also how much of it was driven not by COVID policy responses but by endogenous factors like how unhealthy and susceptible the population is to begin with.
Is there zero correlation that massive protests of millions started and cases began to explode? Is that not at least part of the cause for case explosion? I'm not saying the protest were wrong mind you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Did you condemn the protest as unwise with respect to the spread of covid? Maybe you did, I honestly don't know.
The explosion is very much related to the protests, not only because there was transmission but probably just as importantly and maybe more importantly, because the response to the protests clearly communicated that people claiming COVID was serious and deadly didn't really believe that very strongly.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I know it's hard to contain your zeal to say Covid is bullshit over and over. This post was for Todd. He asked Sheldon to prove how masks, social distancing and shutdowns were successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Yes the protests absolutely share responsibility of cases going up, but the rise started after Memorial Day when people just said 17 it, I'm going on with my life. Fine, herd community and all that jazz... good for you. Well, and back to my original post, you're about to screw us all out of a football season. I'm sure we'll have plenty of blame to go around if that happens but the fact is we could've prevented a lot of this WHILE still opening our economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
damn ... I think this thread caught Covid ... Maybe y'all need to wear a mask while typing
It did.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
If by zeal you mean to uncover the veracity of what is just a campaign year stunt all b/c "Orange Man Bad". Yeah, I'm a zealot and it's still bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
But, hey, you post shit. You get a response. It's a message board.
Since you like to post about protests, I have a quick question for you: what came first - Trump publicly encouraging people to protest their state to reopen (to which they did) or George Floyd's death???Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Now, I'm not asking which had more people participate - I'm simply asking which one came first. I've linked some hints for you below as you attempt to answer my question...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...erous-n1187391
https://www.nytimes.com/article/geor...-timeline.html
https://i.imgur.com/Keu70jQ.png
Turfdawg, your graph was out of date.
Also, EU population = 446 million
Trump did. Not sure your point? I support all peaceful protests, even if I disagree with the underlying cause which the protest supports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Sure, it was unwise. But isn't it strange that cases aren't exploding in the areas with the largest protests, like NYC, DC, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I hope that's a good sign that there is immunity, seeing as nyc and Chicago and philly have had explosions previously. Not sure about Boston or dc, but generally the north was hit harder previously and the south now. Maybe that's why Houston and Phoenix have seen spikesQuote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Not really. Seems pretty clear climate plus the time of initial exposure plays a pretty significant role in the spread. The places you are mentioning have largely already had a spike and were unable to flatten the curve to begin with. Most of the places COVID is exploding now didn't have big spikes to begin with and are very hot and tend to spend much mroe time indoors with the air conditioning cranked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Bullshit, no one in the GOP side "respected Obama"
LOL..
Yeah no freakouts over his birth certificate, or Benghazi, or tan suits....
CiteQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
New Zealand
Belgium
France
Germany
UK
Italy
Spain
Switzerland
South Korea
Prove that it will not...
Deaths are a lagging indicator....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobile Bay
But I hope you are right....
Ok do per capita....Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
They are still kicking our ass.
Mainly due to they have leaders.
The GOP said we were all going to wake up in a communist hellscape if Obama was elected. They're just as histrionic as the Dems can be about Trump. Tucker Carlson is always going on about how statues and sociology professors are an existential threat to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
Europe has already had their explosion in cases. We are having ours. You cannot outrun a virus. It has to run its course. Shutting down and hiding like little bitches has made it worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
I'm sorry Hillary didn't win. I'm sure if she had we would not be hearing A DAMN THING ABOUT COVID 19. Just like Obama and the Swine Flu.
Lol, another tough guy who thinks those that don't think like him are scared.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I wish I was lying. I really do. This stuff got real for me very early on and it hasn't stopped. Hopefully for you it never does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
Most peole where I live don't, and won't unless forced to.Quote:
Originally Posted by NWADAWG
Their government derives it's power by we are the government, 17 you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheltonChoked
Our government derives it's power from the consent of the governed.
There is a difference. You are a citizen. Many Europeans are subjects.
What region are you in?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
We had the same explosion and it started to go down. Ours mirrored thiers......until we opened back up and masses of individuals decided that it was over and they could do whatever the hell they wanted to do. If you think this is all about politics to get Trump, then you and those like you are a big part of the problem. I'm sorry but that is just delusional insanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Lol, you don't know much about Europe. That's hilarious. Try not to get caught up in the words on the front of a passport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobile Bay
I don't know where you live but you do have a propensity to stretch the truth without reliable sources. So yeah. I don't want to disagree with you but if you don't mind I'm gonna side with the fact you know more people that have possibly come into contact with Rona but probably don't personally know people who have died... let alone multiple people...I mean I met pat dye once... saw John prine went to see joe diffie in concert. So I guess I know 3 peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Par dye died of kidney failure and joe diffie had stage 4 lung cancer. Yet both went as Covid deaths. There the lack of trust. Both listed covid cause of death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
Remind me who has a monarch and who has an elected president?Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Pat Dye died of being an old drunk. You drink as much as he did, smoke as much as he did, and you life ends at 80, which is a good damn run and more than many of us get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I get it. He went to hospital due to kidney failure. But his death was counted as covid!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobile Bay
All this pat dye talk reminded me I saw a tommy tuberville for us senate sign in muscle shoals yesterday. Made me laugh!
Was it on the side of a pine box???Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24