Vic to Texas

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I like our AD. Have no issues with what I know about him.

Just pointing out that we blame our former ADs for losing great coaches without knowing their side of the story, but we give Cohen excuses.

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It's pretty obvious at least to me why Vic left. I also believe IF the Aggie job would have come available he would have left for it as well. Texas only has Baylor for competition, the Sec is much tougher than Big 12.

Vic looked like our team this past year to me, tired, he probably just gave himself another 4 to 6 years of being fired up and ready to prove his Hall Of Fame induction.

Austin is a pretty awesome city, it has a lot to offer plus he is back home, I can't blame him and I'm very thankful of his work.

I think I would talk to Johnnie Harris first, players seem to really like her, plus she is from what I have been told a recruiting star. I also wouldn't be surprise seeing her going to Texas either.

P.S. Wonder what the Aggies think of Vic now? LOL

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

Exactly... it hurts... BAD... but damnit.. i understand.
Let's go get the next Vic... ugh... hard to type... have to trsut that can happen. go big.. wbb is a top 3 sport for us.

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If I'm Cohen, I swing big at first. We're a top 5 job in the country. If no one bites, then just hire Johnnie Harris because I think she'll do fine. But we're good enough that we don't have to settle if we don't want to

I wonder if Geno may be ready for something different other than UCONN & to compete in a better conference.

You never know if a coach just may be ready for a new challenge

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I wonder if Geno may be ready for something different other than UCONN & to compete in a better conference.

You never know if a coach just may be ready for a new challenge

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Forget about Geno and Dawn. Not happening.

Here are a couple I'd call that are likely long shots but I make them tell me no:
Jeff Walz, Louisville
Kelly Graves, Oregon

More realistic candidates:
Matthew Mitchell, Kentucky
Johnnie Harris, asst MSU
Megan Duffy, Marquette

Joni Taylor at Georgia. She's a MS gal herself.

It'll be Mitchell. And that's not good. Walz would be my #1 but I doubt he leaves Louisville. Definitely look a Harris too.

Should give this guy a call:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_...n_(basketball)

Wins year in, year out at South Dakota State and has put 2 players in the WNBA.

Hate when this happens for the players. I hope Vic considered all this....

I always find it interesting how the media wants players to be able to freely transfer after a coach is fired, but is it fair to MSU for players to freely transfer after something like this? Can't have it both ways.

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Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN

Horrible news, I hope we can keep our girls and no one else transfers. Do we promote one of our assistants or look elsewhere?? What other names are out there to get?

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Ugh. I want to trust Johnnie.. but I hope go hire a top 5 coach. we can afford it.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I think there's only two names, it's either Johnnie Harris or Matthew Mitchell.

You don't have to overpay for either. They'll both probably take the hometown discount.

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I don't know names.. but don't just go with Mitchell because he is a MSU guy. go get a top 5 coach and pay them. we can keep this on track.

Hell Mulkey is only like 2.25. go pay her 2.5 or graves at oregon.

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

Hell Mulkey is only like 2.25. go pay her 2.5 or graves at oregon.

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Graves makes 800k

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

History will show 50 years from now that MSU lost it's best every two coaches under the same AD. Regardless of the reasons, that's a fact

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And they went to better programs. f*ck off with your doom and gloom little mindset

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

And they went to better programs. f*ck off with your doom and gloom little mindset

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Vic went to a better program?

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Originally Posted by ZedFedder

I do not think you can blame Cohen for this whatsoever. You can't blame him for Mullen, either. What you can blame him for is making a bad hire in JoeMo. I think he will do well this hire.

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I didn't want Mullen to stay because he didn't want to be at MSU anymore. At the time and even in hindsight I wish Mullen and crew would have hung around one more year to coach that loaded 2018 team. Probably overall the most talented team we've had and it was wasted on Moorhead. But after that I would have been fine for him to head out of town. As far as Vic, you do EVERYTHING you can to get him to stay, and I think we did that but I guess he just wanted to go back to Texas. He was loved by MSU fans and was probably the best coach in any sport in school history so I'm sick that he's leaving. BUT, what this does show me is that he was never going to finish his career at MSU. If he would leave for Texas now, you can bet your bottom dollar he would have left whenever Blair retires at A&M.

Guys, I'm just going to be honest. I don't care.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Good luck telling that to the thousands that show up to every game and travel all over the country to watch the ladies play.

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Yea, if our women's program isn't making money it never will. Most games are close to full attendance and our fans travel way more for the women than the men. Only thing that might help the program make money is we will likely be paying our HC less now.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Guys, I'm just going to be honest. I don't care.

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K, cool.��*♂️

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Vic went to a better program?

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Certainly not now, but historically yes. Look, we are a Top 5 program now WITH Vic. Without Vic (i.e. before Vic) we were not even a Top 50 program. I really don't know what we will be going forward but probably somewhere in between. Hopefully a lot closer to 5 than 50 but this is not like MSU baseball with a long storied history where its hard for us to screw up the program. This is a huge hire to get right if we are going to keep the momentum in WBB. If we think Harris can keep the current ball rolling I'm all for hiring her. But if we are going to hire from outside the program I do lean to the KY coach since he has roots nearby MSU and would be much more likely to stay long term than most.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Guys, I'm just going to be honest. I don't care.

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I mostly agree.

I'm more disappointed about MSU losing a great coach than I really care about women's basketball

Personally I think the best case scenario for us would be to hire someone like Mitchell and keep Harris as the top assistant. I don't know how likely that would be. But it would be to me the most ideal.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I mostly agree.

I'm more disappointed about MSU losing a great coach than I really care about women's basketball

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This is why so many say our fans are 17tards

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Vic went to a better program?

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3 final fours. a NC.
fine call it what it is family. something we ALL pride ourselves on... and is damn well true. we call ourselves family and we are but vic really has family in texas.

So there . thats why he went.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I mostly agree.

I'm more disappointed about MSU losing a great coach than I really care about women's basketball

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You just stated you dont care about msu womens basketball.
So are you sexist? possible... think womens sports are less than mean
or just dont care and are posting on something you dont care about... so your opinion is worthless.

either way.. your opinion doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Personally I think the best case scenario for us would be to hire someone like Mitchell and keep Harris as the top assistant. I don't know how likely that would be. But it would be to me the most ideal.

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If Johnnie doesn’t get the HC job here I expect her to go to Texas with Vic.

One thing I bet, a few HC for women's basketball about to get a raise. Johnnie Harris will for sure, either at Msu or maybe Texas.

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

You just stated you dont care about msu womens basketball.
So are you sexist? possible... think womens sports are less than mean
or just dont care and are posting on something you dont care about... so your opinion is worthless.

either way.. your opinion doesn't matter.

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Yours doesn't matter either.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Guys, I'm just going to be honest. I don't care.

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Thanks for taking the time to let us know. I can sleep at night now knowing that you don't care

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I mostly agree.

I'm more disappointed about MSU losing a great coach than I really care about women's basketball

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Holy shit, lol. Do you get paid to start/post in a certain # of threads everyday, or something then? Otherwise, wtf?

Yeah, Johnnie Harris will be at UT if she isn't the head coach here.

Money aside ... not many want to live in Starkville, MS. Y?all can homer it up as much as you want. This is reality.

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Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg

Money aside ... not many want to live in Starkville, MS. Y?all can homer it up as much as you want. This is reality.

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Starkville is still viewed today the same way it was 20 years ago by non MSU fans- and even many of them. You could make Starkville whatever you wanted to be right now, and people are gonna say the same shit about it for years to come.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

This is why so many say our fans are 17tards

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Agree. Like why even be on the thread if you don't care about women's basketball??? This is why none of the great players and great coaches want to come to a Mississippi school... because of idiotic people who say idiotic stuff like that.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Starkville is still viewed today the same way it was 20 years ago by non MSU fans- and even many of them. You could make Starkville whatever you wanted to be right now, and people are gonna say the same shit about it for years to come.

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Starkville is a typical small college town. Nothing wrong with Starkville. At the end of the day, home is home. If you are from somewhere, home has a special draw I don't care where it is.

We must keep this team together and give the next coach a great shot at making another run. This is our best draw to get a top coach. Our talent and the plate is set for them to be successful.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I mostly agree.

I'm more disappointed about MSU losing a great coach than I really care about women's basketball

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Then why tf are y'all on the thread? Bye.

You don't look "cool" for stating you don't care about women's basketball. You look like an idiot for stating it in a thread that's literally dedicated to the topic.

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

He was born in Austin and I believe his parents live there. Easy to understand.

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According to a couple of other sites, this is the exact reason he left. He wants to spend whatever time they have left being as close to his parents as possible. I appreciate what Vic did for us.

Dont overpay to get someone. You could offer Kelly Graves 800-850 and see if you could get him. If not, go to Mitchell and make him a fair offer and if he declines then get Johnnie Harris. There's no reason to overpay when we don't have to. Unless Auriemma or Staley calls you, then don't overpay. Odds are you're not going to get into a bidding war for a women's basketball coach. It's just the facts, there's only about 30 programs that give a rip about women's basketball.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Dont overpay to get someone. You could offer Kelly Graves 800-850 and see if you could get him. If not, go to Mitchell and make him a fair offer and if he declines then get Johnnie Harris. There's no reason to overpay when we don't have to. Unless Auriemma or Staley calls you, then don't overpay. Odds are you're not going to get into a bidding war for a women's basketball coach. It's just the facts, there's only about 30 programs that give a rip about women's basketball.

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Not true. Women's Basketball is probably the most popular collegiate sport behind Football and Men's Basketball. ESPN will vouch for that.

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Originally Posted by natchez87

Not true. Women's Basketball is probably the most popular collegiate sport behind Football and Men's Basketball. ESPN will vouch for that.

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Not in our conference... it's clearly behind baseball