Here is what you guys need to understand about C34/rumors

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11-25-2019, 11:03 AM
MetEdDawg

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

If this were true, it would be on all of the boards, and would be getting leaked by someone with a better track record. ED is a fun board, but it's not exactly a true representation of the fan base as a whole, and if someone in our athletic department is making decisions on coaching hires based on responses they are seeing on ED, my opinion of our AD leadership just went down the toilet.

Now is the time I would implore everyone collectively to use their brains.

Think man. Did anyone say anything about people in our athletic department using our opinion to make a decision? No.

But our opinion is a data point that is important, especially when the stadium is half empty on homecoming. Y'all say we should speak with our money and not go to games, but then say the athletic department doesn't use our opinion to make decisions? Can't have it both ways. Either we make an impact or we don't.

And no it wouldn't be on all the boards. You don't have the knowledge to know who has or hasn't received information to run with. Coach 34s track record is irrelevant. He's not necessarily being given correct information. That's the whole point of this. As a person who gives out information passed to him, he doesn't have the luxury of knowing what's true or false. Again, that's the whole point.

Not sure why this concept is so hard to understand. The university has a lot of ways to gather information to paint a holistic picture. Our opinion is one of those data points. It's not a big one, but it matters.
11-25-2019, 11:19 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Think man. Did anyone say anything about people in our athletic department using our opinion to make a decision? No.

But our opinion is a data point that is important, especially when the stadium is half empty on homecoming. Y'all say we should speak with our money and not go to games, but then say the athletic department doesn't use our opinion to make decisions? Can't have it both ways. Either we make an impact or we don't.

And no it wouldn't be on all the boards. You don't have the knowledge to know who has or hasn't received information to run with. Coach 34s track record is irrelevant. He's not necessarily being given correct information. That's the whole point of this. As a person who gives out information passed to him, he doesn't have the luxury of knowing what's true or false. Again, that's the whole point.

Not sure why this concept is so hard to understand. The university has a lot of ways to gather information to paint a holistic picture. Our opinion is one of those data points. It's not a big one, but it matters.

Excellent points, I still find it hard to see why many to fail to understand who actually controls and athletic department.
11-25-2019, 11:26 AM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Excellent points, I still find it hard to see why many to fail to understand who actually controls and athletic department.

Thanks for the laughs guys.

The next time Cohen speaks at a function, I encourage one of you guys to show up and ask about this "concept" and whether this is a viable "data point" for the athletic department.
11-25-2019, 11:29 AM
MetEdDawg

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Thanks for the laughs guys.

The next time Cohen speaks at a function, I encourage one of you guys to show up and ask about this "concept" and whether this is a viable "data point" for the athletic department.

So you want me to ask him in public to his face whether or not they take what fans want into account when making a hire?

Done. And you know what he will say? Of course we do. We want fans to understand that we value their opinion and that MSU wouldn't be what it is without the fans.

What the hell else do you think he will say to a fans face? No we don't value your opinion and honestly we don't listen to what fans say or do.

You HAVE to be smarter than this man. Come on.
11-25-2019, 11:32 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Thanks for the laughs guys.

The next time Cohen speaks at a function, I encourage one of you guys to show up and ask about this "concept" and whether this is a viable "data point" for the athletic department.

Notice I didn't say who runs but who controls an athletic department. That is something most folks like you cant and still don't get your heard around.
11-25-2019, 11:40 AM
bigplayslay

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Originally Posted by MedDawg

Float Chizik's name out there, then for anyone we hire the fans are just glad it's not Chizik. Kind of like the opposite of our baseball coach hire where everyone was expecting a Top 5 CWS coach so many were disappointed with Lemonis.

The art of the deal!
11-25-2019, 11:42 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

If this were true, it would be on all of the boards, and would be getting leaked by someone with a better track record. ED is a fun board, but it's not exactly a true representation of the fan base as a whole, and if someone in our athletic department is making decisions on coaching hires based on responses they are seeing on ED, my opinion of our AD leadership just went down the toilet.

Now is the time I would implore everyone collectively to use their brains.

It?s as accurate a sample size as simply polling a group of MSU fans via a letter or e-mail.
11-25-2019, 11:48 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by TaleofTwoDogs

Sorry, she said she wasn't married...???????.

She?s uses that line so much....
11-25-2019, 11:58 AM
Reunion Dog

Tell your PUNK FRIEND BOY, THE MALE CHEERLEADER FROM JACKSON PREP, HE SCREWED US AND WAS WAY OVER HIS HEAD!! SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN HIRED!! TELL HIM HIS LEAKED AD CANDIDATE COHEN SHOULD BE SHOWN THE DOOR WITH DUMBO JOE TOO!
11-25-2019, 12:00 PM
Thick

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Thanks for the laughs guys.

The next time Cohen speaks at a function, I encourage one of you guys to show up and ask about this "concept" and whether this is a viable "data point" for the athletic department.

He needs to use something other then what he did last time he made this hire, bc he completely shit the bed!
11-25-2019, 12:01 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by Reunion Dog

Tell your PUNK FRIEND BOY, THE MALE CHEERLEADER FROM JACKSON PREP, HE SCREWED US AND WAS WAY OVER HIS HEAD!! SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN HIRED!! TELL HIM HIS LEAKED AD CANDIDATE COHEN SHOULD BE SHOWN THE DOOR WITH DUMBO JOE TOO!

You know things are bad when you can't type more than two words without firing up the All Caps.
11-25-2019, 12:11 PM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by Thick

He needs to use something other then what he did last time he made this hire, bc he completely shit the bed!

We are all in agreement on this.
11-25-2019, 12:25 PM
coachnorm

Be aware of the politics of sports. The powers of the Universities are always trying to control information being exposed to the fan bases. The NCAA benefits with the sometimes disorientation of their consumers, the college sports fans? Information does not always come out absolute, but that does not mean that the information is not credible. I believe that C34 provides a great service to the readership of this website, granted C34 is not perfect in prophecy yet a mostly accurate source of information. I have learned this mindset by observing USC in Los Angeles. The politics and mind control of the Reggie Bush sanctions out there schooled me up on the fight to get information out to the public or fan bases. There is always a lot of BS out there and even ESPN stays quiet on issue?
11-25-2019, 12:32 PM
trojandawg

i will have lost all faith in our athletic administration if they followed up Moorhead with Chizik. I understand he has SEC ties and won a natty, but he only did that with Malzahn and Cam Newton. Outside of that he was pretty pathetic and underwhelming. Our problem is discipline, organization, and offense. he might could help with the first two, but he would have to hire a sure fire offensive coordinator. I'm just not thinking he is the guy. we could do worse, but it's not the right direction in my opinion if they don't want to maintain what Jo has us in right now which is a downward trend. There are much better options out there. hopefully Keenum, Cohen, and the boosters are smart enough to realize that Chizik is not the right move. I would much more prefer Hudspeth over Chizik if it were between the two of them.
11-25-2019, 12:52 PM
coachnorm

I have seen this first hand about coaches waking up and finding out that yesterday was the last day they were a good coach. It happens all the time one day the coach just lost credibility yesterday. Some hire on experience, yet the experience was good up to yesterday? I believe that Mississippi St needs to think outside the box with the next hire. Look what happened with Herman Edwards last Saturday. If I had my preference, I would like to see MSU look for a hungry NFL assistant who is credible today and not credible yesterday?
11-25-2019, 12:59 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

It?s as accurate a sample size as simply polling a group of MSU fans via a letter or e-mail.

This board also has the ability to nit-pick the hell out of something - so why not let ED build their "pros" and "cons" list about Chizik.****
11-25-2019, 02:17 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Thanks for the laughs guys.

The next time Cohen speaks at a function, I encourage one of you guys to show up and ask about this "concept" and whether this is a viable "data point" for the athletic department.

They read every word I write.
11-25-2019, 02:52 PM
StateDawg44

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

You know things are bad when you can't type more than two words without firing up the All Caps.

So much more convincing. It really drives it home.
11-25-2019, 05:58 PM
I seen it dawg

This shouldn't be hard to figure out. It isn't like this board is some random cooking and where to buy clothes bullshit. You posters should take more pride in the fact the athletic dept does actually peruse boards to gauge fans opinions and they hit this one hard. Maybe bc it's pretty damn good. It's not rocket science it's done all over the country. And the fact we don't give a **** what anyone thinks means we put info out there and let it roll. Hence them checking it out and even possibly using it as a fan gauge which they use as a tool.
11-25-2019, 06:05 PM
maroonwhitedawg3ddd

I for one hope your right COACH34!! This is a message board and rumors are always welcomed from my point of view!! Hailstate!!
11-25-2019, 08:51 PM
RougeDawg

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Rouge - can you expand a bit on the KT thing? I would just like to know the issue here - I assume not tutorgate?

Cannot say. The school and program wishes not to let it known.

That?s why I?ve been saying since March that KT would not be the starter this year. And I was repeatedly hammered for saying it. People like Smootness, who lack any ability to think logically, attacked me for repeatedly saying ?KT would not play this year, and that?s why we were going after transfer QB?s?. I basically laid out all of the evidence in a series of posts without actually saying it. But the easily triggered crew, who lack the ability to comprehend what is typed or spoken, would attack out of the box with no real rational response. Instead of reading what was posted. But you can lead a horse to water, you can?t make him think, I mean drink.

It?s fine. I can take the attacks from the simple minded. I just know I do not post about things like this unless it comes from a few certain people who have not been wrong on any such issues the last 5-10 years.

Carry on simpletons who want to attack facts they disagree with. By the way, Water is dry. And KT will be the starter!!!
11-29-2019, 12:20 AM
ckDOG

Bumpity bump

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The C34 personna has been used by money guys/ath dept over the years to float ideas/rumors to gauge fan reaction or to shape opinion on things going on with our programs.

Remember Vroom Maroon? Was leaked to me thru a booster to float out there by the ath dept to see how it would be accepted by the fanbase
Remember Moultrie Knee? Moultrie, Sidney, and Augustus constantly failing drug tests was pushed to me to get out there to expose Stands and his program by certain boosters. They saw the problems the basketball program was headed toward. They were certainly correct.
Stands lack of accountability for certain players? Floated to me by a staff member.
Peterson accepted the State job? Came from someone in the AD office. Byrne was pissed

Since all that- I get passed all kinds of shit. Some of it is gold- some is bullshit. But rumors are fun.

One thing I trust? We are making a move after Thursday to hire a new coach. That is what is important.

Where we at now?

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