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It was fairly obvious to me that its one of 2 things, our upperclassmen didnt give a shit half the time, or they were allowed to not give a shit half the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgcap
Great coach once told me that everything you see on the field is either taught or allowed.
Think about it this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Howland was handed a failing/failed program and told to turn it around quickly.
Howland gets his talent. (That isn't debatable. The team was highly talented and skilled.)
Howland can either:
1.) Coach like a hardass and risk losing even more of the talent (Newman, Kegler) and therefore hit a setback on the goal of getting to the NCAA. Not good for job security or legacy.
or
2.) Let some things go while trying to get the most out of his team by encouraging them so that he hits his goal
I saw a lot of #2 and I'm not saying it's the right way but I understand how it came about.
I am not trying to put Kermit on a pedestal by any means. I am just want a team that plays hard like Tennessee and makes it passed a 12 seed on the opening round. Can Howland get us there? Not sure, but I hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
So we lost because of Q, Lamar and Aric? Two of those 3 had bullshit 4th fouls late. Now I have to disagree with you agree with Barkley because he sat Lamar and Q for 3 minutes and our offense melted. Remember how you want but we were up 10. Then shit went to hell but that wasn’t on playersQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I had a great coach tell me once that if you listen to a fan base with a great coach that tells what’s wrong with the program that it’s better to ignore them because they usually are full of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Can someone PM me what Nick got suspended for?
Me tooQuote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Name the Coaches and teams we did what you ask, just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
I think the mods need to verify that this guy isn't a troll. This is two threads in a row where he trolled our users into bashing players/coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwells
Ok. If you thought we had a great culture and played hard all the time then thats an opinion. A dumbass opinion but you're entitled to itQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgcap
We were the same team all year. We showed up and played hard when we wanted too not all the time. We had no leadership and disappeared against good teams. Great example, when everything is going good Peters is the life of the party, when something bad happens he is pouting and whining on the bench. Our body language is terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgcap
The only two that play hard consistently are the freshmen, that tells me they havent bought in to that bad culture yet that the upper classmen were allowed to.
If he's a troll, he is quite clever.
I’m not saying Kermit Davis is the next coach K, but he maximizes his talent. It’s not just about what he did at Ole Miss, but also what he did at MTSU. He consistently won their with little talent and almost always won a game or two in the dance. He is a bulldog and would rather watch 3 stars maximize potential than a recruiter bring in 4-5 stars and not coach them. We are not duke, Kansas or UNC. Just need another coach similar to Williams and I think the fan base would unite.
Why do we have to PM? He had someone take tests for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
He ain't a bulldog no more!
wut?Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
He's not a troll.. remember he is also the same poster that would write up pre-game stuff on the basketball team...Quote:
Originally Posted by PMDawg
I think.. he might be a student or one who recently graduated.. that is super passionate about basketball. Maybe has a contact with basketball or not.. but either way, Hopefully he is 0-2. As looks like Nick is staying.. and no other rumblings yet on Ben.
Don't care if he is a troll or not, but the bigger issue is why put this rumor out there? Even if it is true and Howland retires, what is gained? Fresh off a loss to Liberty, starting any type of basketball thread is going to go south...Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
I guess if it drives clicks and hits on this site, maybe it is worth it. Regardless, once someone walks out on that ledge and starts threads full of speculation - ain't no turning back.
I hate any type of "I heard something" comments. I'd prefer to remain in the dark unless there's some substance to it. If you don't have something specific to say, just wait to say something until you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Look I was all for hiring Kermit Instead of the Rick Ray fiasco..Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
but let’s get the facts straight
He was there for 16 years
Made the NCAA dance 3 times
Never got past the second round
That doesn’t scream Hire This Guy!!!!
It does if you overreact to what he did at OM in year one with another coaches players***Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
I'm not a Kermit Davis Jr. defender and never wanted us to hire him (still don't), but that's not exactly an objective look at it. Everything you posted is correct...and yet it doesn't exactly tell the whole story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
He went to the Tourney 3 times in 16 years...but all of those came in his last 6 years there, during which he went 152-55 and 87-21 in conference. He won the CUSA regular season 5 times in his last 7 years there. He did all this at a school that had 6 NCAAT appearances in their history before he showed up, all of which came in a 15-year period that ended more than a decade before he came, and the two coaches before him never won a thing at the school.
Again, I'm not advocating that he should be our coach or that we should want him, and I actually don't want him. But he did a very good job at MTSU, and he has now been to 4 NCAA Tournaments in 7 years at MTSU and Ole Miss. That's pretty darn good.
Don't bring facts with a bit of perspective into this, damn you.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Gawd, can we stop romanticizing about Kermit...he is coaching at MSU's rival. He is NOT coming here.
He's a reb, what did you think he is now?Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Unless I missed it, I don't see where he started a rumor about Howland. He said he heard rumblings from the AD's office related to the basketball program and many jumped to the conclusion that Howland was leaving and further speculated about why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
What is curious to me is why he(jwells) hasn't made any effort to clarify what the rumor or rumblings were/are, which makes me suspect of his motives for starting this thread in the first place.
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Originally Posted by jwells
See the quote attached atop this reply. He posted the topic, you simply must have missed it!Quote:
Originally Posted by MCsMGs
Also, what I've bolded in your reply qualifies as a rumor.
I stand corrected...I did miss that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Go back and read the post I was responding to..Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
agree he did an excellent job at OM and had some good years late at MTSU .
But making the tourney 3 times in 16 years at a mid major isn’t that impressive
Out of curiosity who would you think would be a good candidate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
For our job? Well since Ben isn’t going anywhere I’m not sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Jwells MIA
This. He wasn't at Middle Tennessee State for 16 years because he loved Murfreesboro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
This. Not only that, but this year was an oddity in terms of how SEC teams were rated, as compared to the old RPI system. Davis' team was literally just like all those previous AK bubble teams, but they were overvalued with the new system; just like all the other teams were.....I mean, we were a 5 seed for God's sake...in other years, with our record and schedule, we'd have likely been an 8 or 9 seed, and would have had to fight to get that....which is definitely closer to what we deserved, considering how dysfunctional we were all season.Quote:
Originally Posted by JNC23
Kermit is Andy Kennedy without the crazy.
I'm betting AK's tenure will be much better than KD tenure. Will shall see in 2 or 3 years, KD played with AK players and did a decent job. But they were up and down and losing last two games has to sting but not being a basketball school doesn't hurt for long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
the main reason I was for hiring KD instead of Ray was that Butch Pierre was coming with Him. BP had just been named asst Coach of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
I'd say Andy was Kermit Davis with less experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
What Rumblings? This was from 3 damn days ago. Rumblings were shit OP.
Wondering the same. Was it Peters? What else could it be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead