Anybody blaming Moorhead or anybody else at MSU.....

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Originally Posted by TimberBeast

After the post game have you seen anyone say anything about those calls? I haven’t, and I don’t think anyone will say anything about it.

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The SEC Office isn't going to open up that can of worms. They want Bama to win another National Championship.

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Originally Posted by TimberBeast

After the post game have you seen anyone say anything about those calls? I haven?t, and I don?t think anyone will say anything about it.

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On SEC Now they talked about the block in the back being a terrible call. And I saw Chris Fowler criticize it on Twitter.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

On SEC Now they talked about the block in the back being a terrible call. And I saw Chris Fowler criticize it on Twitter.

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Fowler after the game or during the game?

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

JoMo is the OC and JoMo is calling the plays, and it's different than what Fitz did for his first three years, so yeah, it's JoMo's offense. Did you see SEC film room last week when they were breaking down all the different reads that the QB had during the course of a few plays? Yeah, this is JoMo's offense and he, and not Fitz is singularly responsible for the results. You can't criticize Fitz for being put in a position of having to do something he is incapable of doing. That's not fair. Good coaches alter their systems to accentuate their players' strengths. Bad coaches run their system regardless of players' abilities.

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I'm not criticizing Fitz, and I feel for Fitz, and wanted him to have a Heisman type year. This offense has still been water downed, streamlined, or whatever you want to call it There is really not all the RPO options available that JoeMo would like to use. So we aren't going to surprise a team, especially one like Bama. I also think a lot of our offensive problems today were due to those 5* defensive players, and especially Quinnen Williams and playing in Bryant Denny. I think Willlams pretty much helped dictate our offensive performance. or lack of it.

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Bama zero penalties. I think they were calling our snap count, the reason for 2 snaps when we weren't ready

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Those referees would be like they had ear plugs in their ears if Bama called our snap count. So that is a possibility.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

I'm not criticizing Fitz, and I feel for Fitz, and wanted him to have a Heisman type year. This offense has still been water downed, streamlined, or whatever you want to call it There is really not all the RPO options available that JoeMo would like to use. So we aren't going to surprise a team, especially one like Bama. I also think a lot of our offensive problems today were due to those 5* defensive players, and especially Quinnen Williams and playing in Bryant Denny. I think Willlams pretty much helped dictate our offensive performance. or lack of it.

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I take nothing away from Alabama. It's tough to beat them even if you play perfectly. We just have no margin for error, so we can't have mistakes. Fitz made a few. The o-line made way too many. We saw too many drops by our WRs. We saw some ignorant playcalling at times. Fitz's big mistake today was getting the delay penalty to wipe away that TD. But there are little things that happen during the course of a game that show Moorhead is asking too much of these players with his offense. The flea flicker is a great example....it was a brilliant play call at the right time, and it was a TD if Fitz sees it. The problem is that Fitz didn't see it, because he had to go through a series of reads to figure out who to throw it to...and by then, it was too late.

I still don't see why Aeris can't get more than five carries. This game is custom made for a back like him.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

I think you are missing his point. No shit, we can't win 10 games with this Jekyll & Hyde version of Fitz. The reason he is Jekyll and Hyde is Moorhead's offense. Fitz was better as a sophomore than a senior, and I'll let you decide the reason for it. Most already know.

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Moorhead's offense has absolutely nothing to do with Fitz's blatant inability to see 6 dudes blitzing inside his pants. He has some sort of odd tunnel vision in which he is completely unable to see the 6 guys sprinting straight at him while he does nothing at all to avoid them. That ain't Moorhead. That is ALL Fitzgerald.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Moorhead's offense has absolutely nothing to do with Fitz's blatant inability to see 6 dudes blitzing inside his pants. He has some sort of odd tunnel vision in which he is completely unable to see the 6 guys sprinting straight at him while he does nothing at all to avoid them. That ain't Moorhead. That is ALL Fitzgerald.

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If he had the same issues when the other guy was the coach, you'd have a point. He didn't, so you don't. Period.

I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand - Fitz doesn't have time to see 6 dudes blitzing him. He's looking downfield trying to read four different things and decide where to throw the ball. he's indecisive, and holding on to the ball too long as a result.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

If he had the same issues when the other guy was the coach, you'd have a point. He didn't, so you don't. Period.

I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand - Fitz doesn't have time to see 6 dudes blitzing him. He's looking downfield trying to read four different things and decide where to throw the ball. he's indecisive, and holding on to the ball too long as a result.

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You have to realize who you are arguing with. Dawg61 has the football IQ of a little kid, he simply has no idea what he’s talking about. Let it be.

I do not know if this offense does not have hot routes or if Fitz doesn?t know them but every single time we get blitzed it works for the team blitzing us in conference play. I realize it is easier to armchair qb, but there has to be an alternative to these long routes when we get a blitz. I would like someone to ask Moorhead what is happening on those plays because I honestly believe he would give a straight answer.

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Originally Posted by TimberBeast

You have to realize who you are arguing with. Dawg61 has the football IQ of a little kid, he simply has no idea what he?s talking about. Let it be.

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Good post +1

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Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.

Avg points per sec game:

2017- 26.25
2018- 11.16

For the internet toigh guys, splain how our exact offense last year plus Guidry and hill is 15 points worse per game than last year.

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I agree with this.

I'd like that explained also. We upgraded talent. So where should the blame go? it's obvious

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

If he had the same issues when the other guy was the coach, you'd have a point. He didn't, so you don't. Period.

I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand - Fitz doesn't have time to see 6 dudes blitzing him. He's looking downfield trying to read four different things and decide where to throw the ball. he's indecisive, and holding on to the ball too long as a result.

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He wasn't a year removed from a broken ankle with no spring practice when the other guy was the coach. There's a check down option on every play. Moorhead can't make Fitz see the 6 dudes blitzing him but he should make him throw to the check down option when it does happen so for that I will agree it's on Moorhead for being a walking cactus on the sideline instead of getting on Fitz repeatedly about it.

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Originally Posted by TimberBeast

Fowler after the game or during the game?

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It appeared to be during the game.

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Originally Posted by TimberBeast

You have to realize who you are arguing with. Dawg61 has the football IQ of a little kid, he simply has no idea what he’s talking about. Let it be.

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This is rich. I remember zero of what you post ever because you're basically invisible on this board. You seem to always know what I post though.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Good post +1

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Yea +1 coming from the guy sniffing glue saying Mullen couldn't win a championship yet somehow Moorhead blew it. +eggplant on that logic

Jeeez, we got robbed today as bad as I have EVER seen, and I've seen some of the worst crap imaginable, and all you idiots want to do is bad mouth our own. 17 Bama, Bammers, Tusk, Saban, and double 17 anyone who was born in Mississippi and never attended the University of Alabama but roots for them. An Ole Miss friend of mine summed you traitors up: he said you were all bathroom Bama alums. You once took a leak at a gas station in some place like Gordo or Culman, and therefore had some sort of connection that enabled you to scream Row Thide.

We got robbed on a 14 point swing today. No way in hell they played a perfect game today. However, our OL got beat today and that’s where the difference was in this game.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Jeeez, we got robbed today as bad as I have EVER seen, and I've seen some of the worst crap imaginable, and all you idiots want to do is bad mouth our own. 17 Bama, Bammers, Tusk, Saban, and double 17 anyone who was born in Mississippi and never attended the University of Alabama but roots for them. An Ole Miss friend of mine summed you traitors up: he said you were all bathroom Bama alums. You once took a leak at a gas station in some place like Gordo or Culman, and therefore had some sort of connection that enabled you to scream Row Thide.

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We got jobbed. Look straight up they are better. Have no problem admitting it but the final score is a joke. So proud of our guys. They don’t us again!!

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Jeeez, we got robbed today as bad as I have EVER seen, and I've seen some of the worst crap imaginable, and all you idiots want to do is bad mouth our own. 17 Bama, Bammers, Tusk, Saban, and double 17 anyone who was born in Mississippi and never attended the University of Alabama but roots for them. An Ole Miss friend of mine summed you traitors up: he said you were all bathroom Bama alums. You once took a leak at a gas station in some place like Gordo or Culman, and therefore had some sort of connection that enabled you to scream Row Thide.

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Liver, I love you bro, but this is not nearly the most "robbed' MSU has been vs Bammer.... not even close...

You shoulda been around when Bahr was there and there was legit influence...

I was impressed today...

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

I take nothing away from Alabama. It's tough to beat them even if you play perfectly. We just have no margin for error, so we can't have mistakes. Fitz made a few. The o-line made way too many. We saw too many drops by our WRs. We saw some ignorant playcalling at times. Fitz's big mistake today was getting the delay penalty to wipe away that TD. But there are little things that happen during the course of a game that show Moorhead is asking too much of these players with his offense. The flea flicker is a great example....it was a brilliant play call at the right time, and it was a TD if Fitz sees it. The problem is that Fitz didn't see it, because he had to go through a series of reads to figure out who to throw it to...and by then, it was too late.

I still don't see why Aeris can't get more than five carries. This game is custom made for a back like him.

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Fitz had more then a few mistakes. He held on to the ball way too long today and had no pocket awareness (but he has never had that). He still doesn’t know where his hot routes are and that to me is disturbing for a fifth year senior. It tells me he doesn’t put much time into the playbook on his own time which is as an SEC QB you should do. Hell on the called back TD to Kylin Hill he almost didn’t get it to him on time. On the flea flicker, Fitz didn’t pay attention or see his priority target and Thomas had 10 yards of separation. If Fitz had just thrown it right down the middle, that’s a TD. He’s not a good QB and has low football IQ. He is a great athlete and runner but a low football IQ QB running this offense will get the offense shut down.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I do not know if this offense does not have hot routes or if Fitz doesn?t know them but every single time we get blitzed it works for the team blitzing us in conference play. I realize it is easier to armchair qb, but there has to be an alternative to these long routes when we get a blitz. I would like someone to ask Moorhead what is happening on those plays because I honestly believe he would give a straight answer.

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This^^. All any team has to do is blitz us. Our OL is confused. Hill can’t block or is running a route. Or we’re empty. Our OL is the most disappointing group on the team. It used to overachieve with lesser talent. It’s underachieving with better talent this year.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

for this one needs to stop. I don't think we would have won the game no matter what, but the officiating in the first half proves we were not going to be allowed to compete in this game. How long is the rest of the SEC going to tolerate this crap? It's not like Bama actually needs the help. With it called straight up this is like a 21-7 or 14-7 game.

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The SEC will put up with it as long as the MONEY flows. Bama will be protected at this point of the season. A ton of money is at stake.

All said and done, will they vote to give that ref a championship ring if it goes that far?. He deserves it as much as any player.

I'm not in anyway saying we would have won, but it sure would take the bad taste out of my mouth. I don't think Saban needs or wants that kind of outside help, his teams are too good.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

Those referees would be like they had ear plugs in their ears if Bama called our snap count. So that is a possibility.

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They have a History of doing that in Tuscaloosa. Caused us to lose back with Bond and Co. on the goal line. made Montgomery jump on the 1 yard line.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Moorhead's offense has absolutely nothing to do with Fitz's blatant inability to see 6 dudes blitzing inside his pants. He has some sort of odd tunnel vision in which he is completely unable to see the 6 guys sprinting straight at him while he does nothing at all to avoid them. That ain't Moorhead. That is ALL Fitzgerald.

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Come on. When it is third down and you know the. Red Dog (notice old school for blitz) is coming , don't have a read--run a screen or dump to TE. If we ran the backs more the a play action might Help Fitz with his passing game. It is hard to get RBs touches when you are three and out.
But you know a Coach is a hard headed M'fer when you refuse to put your giant QB under center for a 1 yard sneak. I saw Jimbo do it 3 times yeasterday and all were successful. If Mond can do then you know Fitz can.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

He wasn't a year removed from a broken ankle with no spring practice when the other guy was the coach. There's a check down option on every play. Moorhead can't make Fitz see the 6 dudes blitzing him but he should make him throw to the check down option when it does happen so for that I will agree it's on Moorhead for being a walking cactus on the sideline instead of getting on Fitz repeatedly about it.

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You are easily the worst poster on this board.

Fitz has check downs all over the field. They're called read/option in this offense. It's way too complicated. The worst thing you can ask a football player to do, especially against a defense with the speed of Alabama's, is think/process/read and react. Last year's offensive philosophy was to let athletes make plays. This one is to take what the offense is giving you, and it's on the QB to determine during the course of the play what that is. It's not going to work in the SEC because defenses are too fast. Moorhead should know this, and his negligence has cost us a 10 win season.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

You are easily the worst poster on this board.

Fitz has check downs all over the field. They're called read/option in this offense. It's way too complicated. The worst thing you can ask a football player to do, especially against a defense with the speed of Alabama's, is think/process/read and react. Last year's offensive philosophy was to let athletes make plays. This one is to take what the offense is giving you, and it's on the QB to determine during the course of the play what that is. It's not going to work in the SEC because defenses are too fast. Moorhead should know this, and his negligence has cost us a 10 win season.

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I'm the worst poster on this board to you because I refuse to spit back acceptance for every dribble you leave on this board. Life is tough. Some people don't agree with everything you think pumpkin. Develop thicker skin princess. When the defense dictates you have less than 3 seconds to throw the ball you throw the ball. It's not rocket science yet Fitzgerald seems to want to make it that way. Throw the ball dude. What Moorhead is at fault for is not getting in Fitz's face about his inability to understand he MUST get rid of the ball. That is most definitely on Moorhead and I don't like the trend of his introverted nature dictating his coaching.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

I'm the worst poster on this board to you because I refuse to spit back acceptance for every dribble you leave on this board. Life is tough. Some people don't agree with everything you think pumpkin. Develop thicker skin princess. When the defense dictates you have less than 3 seconds to throw the ball you throw the ball. It's not rocket science yet Fitzgerald seems to want to make it that way. Throw the ball dude. What Moorhead is at fault for is not getting in Fitz's face about his inability to understand he MUST get rid of the ball. That is most definitely on Moorhead and I don't like the trend of his introverted nature dictating his coaching.

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You negatively impact the intelligence level of this board every time you post. Invest in a "Football for Dummies" book or something, and stop wasting everyone else's time.

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Come on. When it is third down and you know the. Red Dog (notice old school for blitz) is coming , don't have a read--run a screen or dump to TE. If we ran the backs more the a play action might Help Fitz with his passing game. It is hard to get RBs touches when you are three and out.
But you know a Coach is a hard headed M'fer when you refuse to put your giant QB under center for a 1 yard sneak. I saw Jimbo do it 3 times yeasterday and all were successful. If Mond can do then you know Fitz can.

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We don't practice any snaps under center at all. 100% shotgun. You can't just call a play that has never been practiced. Maybe they'll add it to the playbook, who knows.

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Originally Posted by hacker

We don't practice any snaps under center at all. 100% shotgun. You can't just call a play that has never been practiced. Maybe they'll add it to the playbook, who knows.

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Yeah, I guess a QB sneak is pretty complicated.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

for this one needs to stop. I don't think we would have won the game no matter what, but the officiating in the first half proves we were not going to be allowed to compete in this game. How long is the rest of the SEC going to tolerate this crap? It's not like Bama actually needs the help. With it called straight up this is like a 21-7 or 14-7 game.

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Hell no we wouldn't win with anybody at coach, hell our touchdown[s] don't even count against them.