Let me sum up all the football threads into one...

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Give a million dollar salary to a millionaire doesn't have the same life changing effect as when you give it to the guy making minimum wage. More money and exposure doesn't help Tennessee as much as it did MSU.

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We passed tenn bc we had a better HC that made us better

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Our history sucks. Your expectations are low. I want better. This ain’t it. But Mullen had reach his ceiling. A better recruiter that can coach can win more than Mullen. High school coaches in Mississippi hated Mullen. A bunch of them did. I talked to one that played at State. He personally told me that he would never allow one of his players to go to state as long as Mullen was there.

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Well first, Mullen was disliked by many coaches. That doesn't help. But, coaches are given way too much credit in where kids go. Now they can be an influence for good and bad. But the good ones give an opinion, when asked, and otherwise stay out of the way. The ones that hide mail, and pull shit like the person you spoke of , trying to dictate, do the profession a bad name. And I know there are some like that.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Mullen had a losing record in the sec 4 of his 9 years. 2-6 was his worst sec year, and he only did it once. He was .500 or better in 5 of his 9 years.

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Convenient you put .500 in there. How many seasons outta 9 did Mullen have above a .500 mark. Fact is Dan was slightly better than average but he was consistently slightly above average. He was great with QBs and he got us to bowl games 8 of 9 years. That's enough to crown him Bear Bryant at a school that's had very limited success to speak of in football. He's the prettiest fat girl at the dance who was gifted a Mercedes to drive with.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Convenient you put .500 in there. How many seasons outta 9 did Mullen have above a .500 mark. Fact is Dan was slightly better than average but he was consistently slightly above average. He was great with QBs and he got us to bowl games 8 of 9 years. That's enough to crown him Bear Bryant at a school that's had very limited success to speak of in football. He's the prettiest fat girl at the dance who was gifted a Mercedes to drive with.

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We a Mercedes now? Lol... Mullen made us a good program, and Moorhead will wreck it

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We passed tenn bc we had a better HC that made us better

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He barely beat Tennessee in Starkville the last time we played them while Derek Dooley was their coach. Is Mullen a better coach than Derek Dooley? He is. But he's not better than Les Miles or Gus Malzahn or Nick Saban or maybe even Hugh Freeze.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We a Mercedes now? Lol... Mullen made us a good program, and Moorhead will wreck it

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No the Mercedes is the extra money and exposure ESPN gave us. Imagine what Jackie Sherrill coulda done with our current budget in the 90's. Everything already woulda been built that happened under Mullen.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

No the Mercedes is the extra money and exposure ESPN gave us. Imagine what Jackie Sherrill coulda done with our current budget in the 90's. Everything already woulda been built that happened under Mullen.

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While I love Jackie and he made us believe we could win and that's huge, but budgets didn't matter to him, ask la tech,Memphis state, ne la, ark st among others. We had bigger budgets than all of this and they all whipped us.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

While I love Jackie and he made us believe we could win and that's huge, but budgets didn't matter to him, ask la tech,Memphis state, ne la, ark st among others. We had bigger budgets than all of this and they all whipped us.

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We woulda had a budget 3-5x there's not one just slightly larger. Memphis probably was pretty close in budget to State in the 90's.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Well you are belittling what he did and yeah I can compare em. And Jackie only played 7 league games too. So there's that. You don't have to like dan, he was a dickhead, but what he did with our program was successful. Hard to argue w that. Even though you want to say we regressed from year to year. Hell, you called going 6-7 to 9 wins regression so ......

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Dan raised the expectation level here, but he had reached his ceiling. Please remember that with expanded bowls, we still needed help from our APR because we were 5-7 at the end of the season. I expect fluctuations in talent here, but we have glaring holes in our roster that were created by his inability to sign the right players.

He chose to leave. I appreciate what he did, but I don't place him on a pedestal like some. I also am level headed enough to say I'd give Moorhead 3 years to get his program in place.

I have faith he'll beat out Middle TN State for our next starting QB, just like Mullen showed he could do.***

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Give a million dollar salary to a millionaire doesn't have the same life changing effect as when you give it to the guy making minimum wage. More money and exposure doesn't help Tennessee as much as it did MSU.

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Bingo. Big $$ in CFB has helped close the gap between the big traditional programs and the rest of us. You can only make your facilities so nice before you can't really buy anything to make a difference.