Inside scoup on why Moorhead went back to the running game..............

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I literally lost brain cells reading this crap.

99, you're full of shit.

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Lol....you brainless idiots wouldn't believe the truth if it fell on your fat ass.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

But did they say they would offer up resignations if it failed? Having your offensive coaches give you honest opinions on the scheme is one thing but practically saying it's mutiny by the coaches is another.

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I have no idea about the resignation deal. I'm just saying the part about Johnson and his pleading with Moorhead to go back to a run first offense and it took two times before he agreed

They did not say they were going to resign if the run game failed but they gave hardhead the option if it did they would resign if he wanted.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

MH and MJ two of our coaches (you can figure out who they are) went to Moorhead after the Florida game and told him we need to go back to power run game. Moorhead or should I say hardhead refused. He told them this is the offense I run and we are going to run it my way. The 2 coaches came back to JM the next day and told him this team was not set up for his offense and if we ran it against Auburn we would lose. They told him if he allowed them to go back to the power run game and we lost against Auburn they would turn in their resignations. He agreed. This is what happened you can believe it or not either way I don't give a 17. I will give him credit for listening maybe a learning curve for him I just don't trust him with the future of MSU football Yet.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

They did not say they were going to resign if the run game failed but they gave hardhead the option if it did they would resign if he wanted.

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That's not exactly how you framed it.

LOL - There are so many different people "in the know", so maybe they all met and decided what offensive scheme we needed to run and then told JoeMo.***

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

No matter if you believe it or not this is absolutely the story that is being circulated from people who know. How much is embellished I don't know but you can believe hud and Johnson went to Moorhead about going back to the running game and he refused but after the first practice he changed his mind

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If you been taking some time off to study up on what Je`sus say ... you might wanna get back to it.

I?ve held my post on this stuff for a few weeks and didn?t believe it when I heard this but now that the auburn game is over. I heard that the IB and the airhead had a very good heart to heart after the UF. I?m not gonna post details as I cannot confirm what was all said but the message was clear. Now will joe go back and be Stubborn I have no clue but from what I was told the IB got after it.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

That's not exactly how you framed it.

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Your right I could have worded it better.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

Your right I could have worded it better.

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I hear ya. I'm posting second hand info trying to get a fix.

I'm not going to call you a liar. I don't know you or what was actually said between the coaches or your with source.

I do believe the offensive coaches had a meeting about changing things up. David Murray said so on Wimberly's show. I have no reason to not believe that.

Now, what was said in that meeting might be where some of this is coming from.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I hear ya. I'm posting second hand info trying to get a fix.

I'm not going to call you a liar. I don't know you or what was actually said between the coaches or your with source.

I do believe the offensive coaches had a meeting about changing things up. David Murray said so on Wimberly's show. I have no reason to not believe that.

Now, what was said in that meeting might be where some of this is coming from.

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The telephone game skews so much info and as sufferers of MSU induced PTSD, it always gets spun to the worst possible outcome.

I have a feeling that Joe tasked the offensive staff to look at the film and figure out what needed to be done moving forward. That staff came to the conclusion that our passing game wasn't adjusting fast enough to the new system to be successful at a high level and that the best option was to focus the offense on the power run game. I bet Joe's "resistance" was "let me sleep on it and we will talk tomorrow." Joe sleeps on it, and when they get together the next day, they go over the options again and make sure it is what they think is best.

Nothing about Moorhead from day 1 says he is some stubborn ass who thinks he invented football. We know what that looks like, we lived with it for 9 years. Joe is cerebral. He is measured. He thinks. He wants to have the back of his guys, and before he does something like shift the entire focus of the offense he is going to look at all angles because he doesn't want to impact the confidence of the players. I wouldn't doubt if he went to team leaders on offense and talked about it before fully deciding.

That is a helluva lot more consistent with the Joe we have seen in interviews and heard about from other coaches and writers.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

The telephone game skews so much info and as sufferers of MSU induced PTSD, it always gets spun to the worst possible outcome.

I have a feeling that Joe tasked the offensive staff to look at the film and figure out what needed to be done moving forward. That staff came to the conclusion that our passing game wasn't adjusting fast enough to the new system to be successful at a high level and that the best option was to focus the offense on the power run game. I bet Joe's "resistance" was "let me sleep on it and we will talk tomorrow." Joe sleeps on it, and when they get together the next day, they go over the options again and make sure it is what they think is best.

Nothing about Moorhead from day 1 says he is some stubborn ass who thinks he invented football. We know what that looks like, we lived with it for 9 years. Joe is cerebral. He is measured. He thinks. He wants to have the back of his guys, and before he does something like shift the entire focus of the offense he is going to look at all angles because he doesn't want to impact the confidence of the players. I wouldn't doubt if he went to team leaders on offense and talked about it before fully deciding.

That is a helluva lot more consistent with the Joe we have seen in interviews and heard about from other coaches and writers.

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Extremely plausible. I don't get that Joe is the stubborn, hard head he's being made out to be.

Not one iota.. not for one second.

Lets get this straight now, it went from two assistant coaches putting their jobs on the line, but then they didn't. Then Cohen steps in and gives an ultimatum to get this sh** straightened out or else? Cohen is not going to try to micro manage JoeMo. He hired JoeMo to run our football program. A first year head football, and one who was his man, and then not even halfway through the season he gives him an ultimatum to get this straightened out or else talk. I guess Cohen is going to tell him who to recruit too, and give him his game plan. Get real. All that would be discussed at the end of the season, if necessary, when they were discussing goals, achievements, etc., concerning the future of our football program. What Brunswick posted is so much closer to reality than what these other posts have been. Oh, and Mullen invented offensive football. Just ask him and he will probably tell you that. I have never heard JoeMo make any claim such as that, and he has not shown any arrogance or stubbornness either, that I know of. He just wants to get us to the next level, and he is passionate about that.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

No matter if you believe it or not this is absolutely the story that is being circulated from people who know. How much is embellished I don't know but you can believe hud and Johnson went to Moorhead about going back to the running game and he refused but after the first practice he changed his mind

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Which is entirely a different story than what the OP said. I can see coaches approaching Moorhead about changes. Good staffs collaborate, assistants make suggestions, and the head coach has the final say. I can't see them offering a resignation and Moorhead accepting.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

MH and MJ two of our coaches (you can figure out who they are) went to Moorhead after the Florida game and told him we need to go back to power run game. Moorhead or should I say hardhead refused. He told them this is the offense I run and we are going to run it my way. The 2 coaches came back to JM the next day and told him this team was not set up for his offense and if we ran it against Auburn we would lose. They told him if he allowed them to go back to the power run game and we lost against Auburn they would turn in their resignations. He agreed. This is what happened you can believe it or not either way I don't give a 17. I will give him credit for listening maybe a learning curve for him I just don't trust him with the future of MSU football Yet.

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Someone kill this thread

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Originally Posted by 99jc

MH and MJ two of our coaches (you can figure out who they are) went to Moorhead after the Florida game and told him we need to go back to power run game. Moorhead or should I say hardhead refused. He told them this is the offense I run and we are going to run it my way. The 2 coaches came back to JM the next day and told him this team was not set up for his offense and if we ran it against Auburn we would lose. They told him if he allowed them to go back to the power run game and we lost against Auburn they would turn in their resignations. He agreed. This is what happened you can believe it or not either way I don't give a 17. I will give him credit for listening maybe a learning curve for him I just don't trust him with the future of MSU football Yet.

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I told you all when this happened.

There probably isn't one person on this message board that has any "inside scoop". Just a bunch that think they are a message board hero! Post crap and always include the part, "believe it or not". Thats usually a very dead give away not to believe it.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

MH and MJ two of our coaches (you can figure out who they are) went to Moorhead after the Florida game and told him we need to go back to power run game. Moorhead or should I say hardhead refused. He told them this is the offense I run and we are going to run it my way. The 2 coaches came back to JM the next day and told him this team was not set up for his offense and if we ran it against Auburn we would lose. They told him if he allowed them to go back to the power run game and we lost against Auburn they would turn in their resignations. He agreed. This is what happened you can believe it or not either way I don't give a 17. I will give him credit for listening maybe a learning curve for him I just don't trust him with the future of MSU football Yet.

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Good grief lol. Damn that blood moon brought the crazies out.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

I told you all when this happened.

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Would you like a cookie?**

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Originally Posted by BB30

Would you like a cookie?**

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No a beer!

bumping your own thread 4 months later to add nothing of substance is a party foul bruv

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Originally Posted by 99jc

I told you all when this happened.

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It?s pointless bringing things back up that you had inside scoop on around here. Credit will never be given where it?s due. I was ridiculed for weeks when I posted that Keenum got in Lofers and Danny Two Gloves asses after South Alabama and laid out the ultimatum. Break up the CC and give effort in recruiting or they?d both be looking for jobs soon. Was told I had no idea and no knowledge even though keenum told this first hand to a direct family member in the presidents box a couple games later. Guess keenum was lying.

One CC member was sent packing after the season and Benedict Arnold started looking for his out right after the keenum ass chewing.. That?s why Two Gloves was going to TN before Florida came knocking. He wasn?t going to listen to Keenums direction. He was leaving one way or another.

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

It?s pointless bringing things back up that you had inside scoop on around here. Credit will never be given where it?s due. I was ridiculed for weeks when I posted that Keenum got in Lofers and Danny Two Gloves asses after South Alabama and laid out the ultimatum. Break up the CC and give effort in recruiting or they?d both be looking for jobs soon. Was told I had no idea and no knowledge even though keenum told this first hand to a direct family member in the presidents box a couple games later. Guess keenum was lying.

One CC member was sent packing after the season and Benedict Arnold started looking for his out right after the keenum ass chewing.. That?s why Two Gloves was going to TN before Florida came knocking. He wasn?t going to listen to Keenums direction. He was leaving one way or another.

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I think it is more of the fact that someone would feel the need to have their ego stroked on a message board 4 months later... You throw enough sh** on the wall and eventually something will stick. JC has had it out for Moorhead the last 6 months despite the fact that there was absolutely nothing or no-one that vehemently opposed the hire when it was made.

You only have so much you can go off of when making a hire and you won't fully know if you made the correct hire or not until a year or two down the road. Much easier to look back in hindsight and say "dang that wasn't a great hire". Which we still don't know how good or bad the hire was considering we still had an above average season historically speaking.

Some of you expect Alabama results on a cheap beer budget and will never be satisfied. Just look at all the fans dogging Howland while we have our best team and roster in nearly a decade instead of sitting back an enjoying us being pretty good again. You can moan and groan if we don't make the tourney with a decent seed but until then sit back and support the team.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

No a beer!

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I bet you drink Bud Light Lime*

Yup aint buyin'......stock market is down on this OP.