I don't either. I'm extremely thankful for what he's done this season, I think he was the perfect guy to hold this team together for this season. But moving forward he isn't, there's too much at stake and his track record shows he won't be successful long term here.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We gave up 5 runs with 2 outs because he refused to change pitchers just like on Friday. Guess what? That’s all they scored after we made the change. He saved his pen on Friday for absolutely nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
This is exactly correct. In fact Casey and their pitching coach are the ones that should prolly be catchin some flack for this year and last...and not just for keeping the heimlich kid on the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
The only people threatening to split the fan base are the ones that don't want Henderson. It's like give me my way or I'll throw a tantrum and go home. It's unreal. I personally think Henderson earned a shot. It's hard to overstate how difficult a situation he took over. It wasn't just the three week tournament run. It was the whole season's progression. Most of this team is coming back. I have yet to run into a non-internet MSU person that doesn't think we should at least offer it to Henderson. I'm sure they are out there. What the media thinks matters. They lead opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
That being said I don't think it will be him. If it was we would have already done it I think. I'll be behind whoever. I would hope you anti-Henderson zealots will do the same if I'm wrong.
The only big blow was the homer. Otherwise they score 2. The homer was left on left and that's why he stayed in the game. And he ended up throwin a couple more good innings. I had no problem with small throwing to the kid that hit the homer. To me the pitch of that whole inning was the elevated fastball that started the 2 out rally. That was a classic case of relaxing with 2 out none on and not executing a pitch. Of all the missteps Hendo can get blamed for how he handled in game pitchers during the CWS isn't one of them IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I don’t theink the elephant in the room has been discussed. If it’s not Henderson who do you go get that’s better. Our top three candidates publically said they are staying at their schools. If we don’t hire Henderson and then go get some mid major coach the entire fan base will be against the hire not just a fraction.
I am all for it not being Henderson if we have a truly elite coach lined up. If not, it should be Henderson even if we have to revisit this again in 2-3 years. Let the negativity die down and try to land an elite coach again. Either that or offer what ever it will take to Land a big time coach now and don’t take no for an answer.
I will be for whoever is hired, because they will be MSU! Hail State!
You are the worst poster on this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobile Bay
Bingo. That?s on Cohen. He put the idea in people?s heads that we could get a sitting head coach on the elite level. I love Cohen, but he shouldn?t have said that. At the end of all of this, he may be thanking Henderson for giving him cover for not being able to get an elite head coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
Yeah, Cohen ran his mouth when silence was the better option. Essentially, Cohen sold us a dream that the vast majority of our fan base never even considered a possibilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
Well let's see who the hire is before we run John down. Secondly, I dont think the folks who want someone other than Henderson are trashing him. We are passionate about the team and think we can do better. I respect Coach Henderson, but dont think he is the right person for the long run.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Maybe schloss and McDonnell publically pulled their names bc you know like they aren't coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcat91
Exactly, who do we get? My first question when asked if I want Henderson is well, who is the alternative? If we get some unproven assistant then there is just as much risk to that as there is giving Hendo the full time gig. GH is not my first choice by any means but if we don't hire him I want someone that is no doubt better on paper at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
Yep, many are acting as though we are going to go out and land Joe maddon . That is now a pipe dream. We struck out on the majority of the top coaches on our list or at least it looks that way. It seems Cohen may have botched this one. Could be wrong and if he goes and gets a proven winner that was in our top 5 from the get go then I don't think there will be a person in our fanbase complaining. If he goes and gets a mid major coach with zero CWS experience a lot of our fans will be extremely upset and rightly so.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
He said we were going to get a coach with CWS experience and we have one in our current interim coach. You can think what you want but Henderson played a major role in getting us to where we got(there are very few coaches that could pull of what he did). It isn't all about in game coaching decisions and many coaches make poor in game decisions from time to time. It is always easier looking at it in hindsight. It's also not like this team was just loaded down with first round talent everywhere and he just had to plug and play. This team overall wasn't a CWS final 3 type talent he had a major hand in what we accomplished. One of the hardest things to do in sports especially baseball is turn around a sinking ship which is exactly what we were and he did that both on and off the field.
We gave him hell for bringing Gordon in a month ago and now look. Kid turned out to be one of our best relievers. Myself included was calling him crazy for continuing to go with him. Maybe just maybe he knew what Cole could do and was giving him the opportunities to do that and it clicked due to getting those tough innings early. Shows he might know more about his team then we as fans do.
This is some elite dawgs hall of shame material right here. Cohen was right to bash the stupid ass defensive shifts and he was right to bash Skeltons lazy ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobile Bay
Grow a set
If we hire Henderson we are ****ed. Like happy to be an average program ****ed. Please don't hire this guy we will become Kentucky. Lotsa noise with no substance.
This just proves the point that only the casual MSU fans want Henderson. Not trying to bash you here but you have even said you dont follow baseball closely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
This was the greatest stretch in Gary Hendersons baseball coaching career and he ended it, say what you want, totally wasting a friday game to get in to the CWS finals.
Its going to be Schlossnagle
Some of the non-internet folks I'm talking about are far from casual fans. I don't have a clue but my hunch is it's not Henderson.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
We also benefited from UF taking their foot off the gas.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
If it really is Schloss then you make that hire 100% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
If Henderson gets hired he better give Macnamee at least a quarter of his salary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobile Bay
Just curious what makes you so confident of this? I would like to think it?s him to but I have no reason other than just my own personal opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
If he is what he appears to be (young, energetic, innovative, attacking) then yes. Hindu is not. Hindu's greatest asset as a head coach would be his demeanor and maturity.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I do believe Hindu can be a big winner here if he keeps JG and adds a dynamic pitching guy who is a great recruiter.
Where theres smoke, theres fire. And I may turn out to be wrong, wont be the first or the last time. But he has made it known that he wants the job in Omaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
Regardless of what was said a while back.
For the umpteenth time in this thread. If Schloss falls through, there are plenty of way better candidates than Henderson that have been way more successful at smaller schools (worse programs than Kentucky) as head coaches. Dan Heefner, Matt Riser, Todd Whitting, Link Jarrett, Greg Lovelady are all coaches that would win big here and are way better than Henderson.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
The Cohen interview regarding the type coach State would hire and Henderson helping turn the team around along with his COY awards sets this up for a lot of opinions, threads, posts, and media know it all's/backlash no matter who is hired.
It's true. There isn't potential for a fracture among the fan base. There will absolutely be a fracture among the fan base. There's no way around it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
More than a tear if Henderson is hired. I would say the majority are smart enough to see what we need longtermQuote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Hardcore, dedicated MSU baseball fans, yes. True maroon fans who don't even know SPS, Elite Dawgs, etc, exists and kept up with little baseball until the Henderson led team made the WS run and he got two COY national awards, no. We have little choice but to trust the ones who will make the coaching hire and get behind it. I have heard many State fans, friends and relatives who think Coach Henderson earned it. We will see. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs