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It will be interesting to see what happens with OM attendance next year if they manage to get someone like Thad Motta. Our fanbase would really run out of excuses for why we couldn't get 5,000 at a basketball game for a borderline tourney team if they started to fill up their arena next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
We suck as a men basketball fanbase, periodQuote:
Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most)
I agree now. Before this season I would have said we had a good one, and I think most of our fans think we have a good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We didn't used to. It has nothing to do with Stans. Hell, the Stans guys were Williams guys. The name is Byrne.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
After this year I agree that we have a sucky basketball fanbase for whatever complicated reason. I'm now of the opinion that we are very, very lucky to have Ben Howland as our coach and if we lose him we will have difficulty replacing him with anyone similar in caliber because we have shown we won't support the program like we should. And the seating issues need to get fixed NOW. Cohen should make that a priority and get all the students back in the lower bowl and together. I don't see why that has to be so complicated. And it should happen even if we give up a little bit of revenue to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
With a respectable season under his belt and especially if we do good in the tournament you will see an increase in season ticket sales. Politics don't enter into it if you are winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
It takes effort on many of our fans to make the games, it not driving across town for most of them and figuring on losing sure doesn't make the effort worthwhile to many of them.
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SEC Network is killing our attendance
You know what the most embarrassing thing is? Auburn supported their team the moment they got Pearl and they have one of the worst basketball programs in SEC history. The way Auburn fans supported their program when Pearl was hired should have been the way MSU fans supported our program when Howland was hired.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
That’s a dumb thought process. Look at Auburn’s attendance. Get another excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Auburn's metro area is 158,000- Starkville's is 30,000....thats a huge difference. Auburn also has more campus students than State as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Putting our school in the corner of the state away from everything was stupid and hurts us more than any other SEC school. It kills us with attendance now that people can watch the games on TV and dont have to drive up from Jackson or other places that were 2 hour drives
Did Auburn take away 3000 tickets from loyal fans who came to every game and give them to fans who never show up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Then shift the students to crappy seats and split them up. Then hire a basketball coach who couldn't coach a church league team. Remember " just play defense the offense will take care of its self". You can't give a priority to Football ticket holders for basketball seats. If you want the Hump back rocking let basketball fans have the tickets.if your seat doesn't have butts in them then you lose them.plus the fact we now play 6 o'clock games then 8 o'clock games makes it hard to attend games.
How are the women able to pack the Hump then? Their games are also on the SEC Network. We are able to pack Davis Wade and Dudy Noble pretty easily...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Something has to be done and fast. We will have a top 20 team next year and still will have issues packing the Hump.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
The tickets are cheaper and not locked up by people who don't attend. Make the Men's tickets the same as women'sQuote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Yep. $20 dollars for upper deck seats when the lower bowl is half full... What a joke!Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
This is what I was alluding to about if OM hires Motta and starts filling up their arena next season. Except that OM has an even worse history than Auburn does.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
The more I think about it, the more I'm embarassed by our fans this year. The continuous excuses (see below) and the way some on here just basically kept moving the goalposts back this season until the team finally slipped up.
It's one thing to just admit we don't care about basketball. It's another thing to say we do then come up with a million reasons why we can't even fill up the Hump 2/3 of the way, all the while having borderline Tennessee-football levels of delusion about our basketball program's prestige and ability to go out and get a coach better than Howland
Great post and well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most)
This is pretty much spot on. Our attendance problem is self inflicted by our athletic department's failure to correct their mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Football and SEC baseball series are played on weekendsQuote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Women’s tickets aren’t as expensive plus they are undefeated. Easier to take the whole family
It’s a complete different crowd. More kids and family’s. The team is interactive with the fans. Ect....Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
I attended my share of home games this year.
We can bitch all we want about the students , but season ticket holders that gobble up premium lower level seating are the problem.
There were rows of seats (4-8 seats ) that would be empty game in game out in the same sections every ****ing game.
That’s the issue.
Understandable that 6pm tip times on Tuesday and Wednesday hurt crowds, but no excuse for season ticket holders to miss weekend games.
We were selling out season tickets before Ray and had a waiting list.
The only vacant seats you see at the girls game are reserved seats, but very few on weekends. I had 4 vacant seats next to me all year, didn't mind a whit, moved into one of them and loved having the space.
I hope they don't increase the reserved seating again this year, but would have to admit if it was my business I would probably do so.
No SEC network before Ray. Half ours games werent on TV. People dont have to drive up from Jackson anymore to see State playQuote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
Why would you do so? Basketball team isn't in the red and the university most certainly isn't after getting 40 mill from the SECN alone so if it was your business and you're already making fat bank I would think you'd want the atmosphere to be as helpful for your team as possible instead of trying to make another buck.Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
Not to mention the 6 pm game times now due to SEC network. Yes we had plenty before but the majority of our fans that used to attend live 1.5 hrs or greater away from campus. 6 pm game means getting off of work by 4 at the latest for this living the closest. Hell I rarely get away from work before 5-6 pm to make it home in Nola to catch the game on tv, with a 1 hr commute. I can?t imagine having to try to drive 2 hours to and from a game during the week. We never had eeek day crowds during the stands era to begin with. Tv just shows it more frequently now.
Some of you lose all sense of logic and reason when you think about MSU. The downtown of crowds was also during skme rough years in our economy. People did not have as much expendable income to pay for tickets and the petroleum to make games. This things are all factors and all things that are getting better. Winning helps too.
If we don?t have decent crowds next year then there may be something to it but let?s wait and see. The team made great strides this year and people started attending 2nd half of season.
If you have season tickets but game after game nobody sits in your seats, take them away. Cohen has to nut up, and figure out how to put butts in the seats.
women's basketball loses money. If we can finally start turning a profit- it would be niceQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Doubt it loses money after this season after having 6 straight sellouts. Certainly don't need to leave more open seats from sold season tickets to men's games just to make up money lost from women's hoops when we are sitting in the black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Latest nit projection has us 3-seed.
http://www.nycbuckets.com/current-nit-bracketology/
This may be the 1st year it actually makes money. Which is hugeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
It loses a LOT of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I thought we were borderline out of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I said with another loss. Guess I was off though if this projection is accurateQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Not this year it doesn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Don't expect an invite to be on my board of directors anytime soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
You must only like ass kissers. Glad to know I don't fit your criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
Who doesn't , but I was referring to your socialist attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Maybe so, but I know what the figure used to be. I doubt the increased attendance covered that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
If you call wanting a top 25 basketball atmosphere a socialist attitude then okQuote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
There was a time when Football paid for everything. Basketball is a money maker. But who cares, I would rather lose money and have the Hump go back to a rocking place.