It's Omhar Carter not Mario Kegler. I doubt Kegler even had a say in this.Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
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It's Omhar Carter not Mario Kegler. I doubt Kegler even had a say in this.Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
The timing of when Kegler and Newman asked for their release is not normal. Usually this is done right after the season when they have their end of season review with the coach in March or at the latest early April. Transfers almost never announce this late. Hell, the deadline to withdraw from the NBA draft has already passed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
All I was saying is there was nothing unusual about the timing. F him for leaving, and I wish him nothing but the worst, but its not like it isn't the high season for transfers right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Why would he not finish out the semester? No sense in announcing a transfer, then awkwardly hanging out for two more months with your now ex-teammates. Waiting gives time to think it sll the way through and also survey the market. There is literally no downside. Would you turn in a 2 months notice before leaving for another job?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Hell yes the timing is unusual. Next week is summer school and school has been done with for a couple of weeks. This is the latest I have seen a player ask for a transfer that wasn't in the NBA draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
That's what transfers do. They announce in March and April finish out their semester take visits and figure out where they want to go before summer school starts in most places. Only douches do what Kegler/Carter did there because it gives us no contingency plan to try to get another transfer here or even go after a late 2017 player. Transfers almost always ask for releases in March or April. We are damn near in June.Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
I don't see how the NBA draft or summer school ties in. Like Newman, Keglar is not an NBA player so that really has no bearing now or ever on when he would decide to transfer. Summer school is not a requirement either.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Okay, look at when most players (90%) announced transfers and then look at when Kegler asked for his release. I bet there is probably a month or more between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
Okay, so it sucks that he's transferring but it would have made it so much better if he was super nice and polite about it? To hell with that. Late March / Early April is around the same time of the Garrison Brooks saga, and it was already well established that we had literally no options to replace him. This would have been no different if it happened a month and a half ago. Let's just agree that Keglar - Carter are both douchebags and move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
I'll just take your word for it. No difference to me if it happens in April or May. And no long term impact to our program either for one option over the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
How do you know he didnt ask for a release a long time ago and were just now hearing about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Camden is as close to Louisville as it is to jackson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Because with as leaky as our athletic department is, it would have gotten out almost instantaneously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
He's the last of the 800 transfers to announce they are transferring. Seems later than the norm.Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
I guess we need to go ahead and take Kenneth Nwuba off the list for 2018 then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
George Brooks can pack Kegler's bags for him and he, Carter and Kegler can leave this campus for good. If Howland signs another Ohmar Carter player he can pack his bags too.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
I hope Howland gets us winning soon because right now I hate college basketball and I used to love it. Hopefully us winning will help me ignore all the dirtiness and ugliness that goes along with it.
The Weatherspoon's were Ohmar guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Not in the same sense. They may have played AAU for him, but he's not their handler and controlling their lives like he seems to be doing with Kegler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I feel ya'. The NCAA has a lot of work to do. Main thing is we need rules that allow athletes to be fairly compensated for the contributions they make.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I know that. I was just pointing out that we've gotten some other MBA players. He said not to sign another Ohmar player have to be careful with that statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Honestly not that upset. If I was given a choice for one player to leave, it would have been him. I think he was wayyyy overrated and plenty of times last year he was too busy celebrating a shot to get back down the floor on defense. Typical primadonna "me" mentality
I agree Smoot but I do think you have to keep some relationship with Omhar Carter just because he is the head of the MBA AAU program. I just think Kegler is getting extremely bad advice and will never find a situation where they will play him solely at the three. The thing I hate the most about this are the optics of it. In the last year, we have had Newman transfer, the Garrison Brooks debacle, and now this. We have had nothing but bad PR and on top of that had a disappointing season last year. But the best thing that can stop this negativity is a great season this year. I am hopeful Howland can get this done.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
I believe Omhar Carter was Kegler's legal guardian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I'm not saying you destroy the relationship. We should continue to go after players we like who play for his AAU team. But any player with a similar relationship with him as Kegler has? Heck no.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
He isQuote:
Originally Posted by jeremyrbrown
What's really funny is that the Commercial Dispatch in Columbus has an article today on this very subject BUT no where in the paper do they mention the guard from Tennessee who has requested to get out of his deal with Ole Miss. I won't link the article because I detest that paper as much or more than I do the Clarion Liar but it's my only source of local news since WCBI sucks donkey dicks big time.
How in the hell did we finish with a better RPI in 2003 than 2004?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I just had the feeling all year, that Kegler was not a team player.
True we will probably miss him, but for the overall good of the team, this might be best in the long run.
That is not RPI, it is KenPom's rating.Quote:
Originally Posted by MedDawg
Our RPI in 2004 was top 5.
Omhar is a piece of shit! There were times when he would be in Kegler's ear during timeouts and when he was on the bench telling him to make sure he got his shots. To hell with the team or what is actual coach says, just get yours. That's Omhar's mentality. He may con these kids/family's into letting him control them, but he is a shitbird!
Ban him from campus. Make a statement! Enough is enough, this ****er destroys basketball careers and thinks he gets to run our basketball program and be a parasite to the best players in the state that aren't old enough or smart enough to know he is a total piece of shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Brahmabull
Don't go that far. We do want players who come through his AAU team, we just don't want anymore he happens to be guardian of. But pissing him off won't do us any good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Kegler to Baylor is what I'm hearing.
edit: per will sammon tweet.
Drew been in contact with our player. Turn him inQuote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs
Lulz, he would be a good fit there.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs
Very dirty program right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness