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THIS!!!!! Stop ****ing starting these stupid ass threads where rumor this and rumor that and some on here have to give their two cents! Why should he respond to every rumor? Why should we have to start a thread about every rumor?? Where are you Ref?? Lock this one too!Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Yes I do. Tell you what- why don't I put out rumors about you leaving your job to your boss and you tell me how it goes? Other coaches dispel rumors so why is Dan above that? Whether they are true or not? That's also part of the business and part that Dan has failed at pretty miserably so far. Our own AD was telling recruits that he wasn't going to be the AD and to not believe it up to the day before he was named the AD. So Cohen knows how it works. And if there were rumors about my job and my boss approached me about it you better believe I would deny it. As you would too. Businesses have fired people for looking around in some instances.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
So, yes I would rather Dan lie about looking around because I'll tell you- I'm not pissed at Cohen for lying about it. Players and recruits want to know who they are playing for- especially in a sport that is so specialized like football. You think Keytaeon Thompson wants to play QB for Paul Johnson? Our fans need to hear it because people want to support someone that is going to be here.
It's funny to me that people like you think it's no big deal when Dan looking around and not dispelling it was the biggest reason why he didn't get extended in the first place. So, it's a big deal to someone at MSU that's higher than me.
We can't know for sure...but Brohm looked pretty good, as does PJ Fleck. Dan's big upside is he's the Dual-threat QB guru. But he does have his faults...as does just about anyone. Another coach would probably not be as goos with QB development, bt he might be better at recruiting, or game-calling or getting a DC, etc, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by C222
There are no guarantees.
Oregon wants Chip Kelly
Because he makes $4+ million per year..and when he farts around with this shit, it hurts our recruiting and our name-brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
For $4+ mill we can damn sure expect him to go out there 100 times or more to deny any interest, etc.
They probably do, but I don't definitively know that. And I do agree that when you are looking for a job you normally want to keep it as quiet as possible- that's how you should handle it. But being a power five football coach makes it hard to do that than a typical job. And I've never had a problem with Dan looking around- my problem is how it has been handled by him and the University. A statement isn't going to hurt anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
This one started by a mod. Probably why it wasn't locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
Looking around because a message board from Oregon says he is own their shots list.
Damn. Ok, let me tell you what I know, this comes from inside information, he hasn't interviewed, he didn't have his agent pursue the Ducks. Rumors just what it is.
You and I aren't a hot commodity like Mullen. That's where you're missing it...Mullen has leverage bc nobody is going to say, GTFO. Nor should they.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
LMBO! I got you -7 on PlayStation.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I don't think he is going either, but a statement doesn't hurt because the rumor is out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
It wouldn't change anything, it's obvious the rumors will never go away with Mullen. I think much of it has to do with how we Msu are perceived across the country. We have never in my lifetime had a Coach even mentioned for another job. Well JWS did want to return to Pitt but was shot down by their President.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Businesses don't want their employees looking around for other jobs period. I don't care if you are the CEO or the cleaning lady. You might want to tell that second sentence to the guy that didn't extend his contract in the first place. No one is above being fired at any time for any reason- reasonable or not. That includes me and you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
All we're asking for is a damn statement from his secretary. That's really too much to ask? Do you think Dan is better than Florida's coach which is a much more prestigious program than ours? PJ Fleck denied rumors on ESPN when they tried to bait him but Dan is somehow above that? And what you aren't getting is a statement might also quell any of the other rumors.
You're asking why would it help when you should be asking what would it hurt? Why would you not want our football program to do a small thing that would secure it's stability and only help? Because you think it's "stupid"? Because you think I'm arrogant? GTFO.
It won't stop the rumors but it will help manage our program. That's what everyone that wants a statement is saying. If you don't there is a lot of uncertainty. That does affect recruiting. And if he does by very, very, very slim chance leave then that creates an even longer period of uncertainty.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Look at how we handled our recent baseball coach hire. We did that flawlessly IMO. And there were certainly rumors about Cohen becoming the AD for a month or so before it happened. That's all I want to have happen here. And not that I think he's leaving- I just want it managed well whether he stays or leaves.
If you have to release a statement every year, release one every year. So what? That's part of it. That's better than doing nothing and having other teams take advantage of us not doing anything about it every year.
It's real easy to throw a tweet out of we can't be more excited to prepare for our bowl game and our great recruiting class that is about to hit campus. Real easy.
For $4+ million he can do it as many times as it helps. If he needs to do it 5 times a year...ten times a year, so what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Why is that so hard for people like basedog to understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Doesn't Mullen have 2 years left on contract? With no guarantee here beyond that, why say he has no interest?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
What if Mullen hasn't even been contacted? What would he be shooting down? A 247 article?
By now our fans should be able to ignore it by now. Every year his name pops up. With the success of Dak now his name will become even hotter.
It's not for our fans. It's for the potential recruits.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Is 247 not a reputable web site?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
Yes and no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
David Johnson writes for 247. Is he credible?
Our fans are the biggest idiots with respect to "Mullen to _______" rumors. Let me summarize the annual cycle for ya'll:
1) Some dumbass blogger or UMiss tool throws some dumbass rumor out there that has no legs.
2) Mullen makes the statement (either in a press conference or in an impromptu interview) that he's happy in Starkville and he doesn't address rumors.
3) Our idiot fans freak the F*** out and are convinced that he's looking and tell him to pack his bags and get the F*** out thereby perpetuating the rumors.
You people need to stop. He's already said (in the Egg Bowl post-game press conference) that he's looking forward to next year and that he has a lot of work to do to get this team ready for next year.
Sack up and quit believing all the dumbass rumors that are being floated by people/teams that want to see us suffer.
You honestly don't believe Dan would address with recruits? He's done it every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I read somewhere that Mullen was going to be in Trump's cabinet *****
Secretary of New Jobs**Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Ha! He going to arbitrate all the off-season coaching moves.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Hah just don't put him in charge of department of defense. Don't think our country can handle a bend don't break policy...Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Todd, I manage 11 people and I am going to disagree with you. If you are happy where you work, are performing, well and have a good relationship with your manager, I have no problem with my reps testing the waters or interviewing to see what is out there's. And those that I want to keep and who like working for me, we have that relationship where they tell me when they get a call from another company or have an interview. They tell me that because they respect me and like working for me, and they know I respect them. And this is what I think Dan has with Keenum and now Cohen, and I don't think they ask him to make public statement about rumors or facts for the matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I've got a few really good reps who have been contacted numerous times, and I am sure they don't tell me all but they do come to me if it is relevant. I don't blame them for seeing what is out there, because it is business! And to be honest I've had them turn down more money to stay because they liked their current setup and it was more about the overall situation than $10-20K more. They trust me to give them my honest opinion and I just know Dan and our people have that. We all go through a phase of not being happy or looking at our options just to see what else the world offers, and our heart keeps us here.
I'm just saying we have to stop these threads and speculating and creating more drama. If Dan leaves, then he leaves. He's recruiting the guys he wants to be here and he has never, and will never get hung up in all of the BS.
Amen brother!Quote:
Originally Posted by TXDawg
Saying he has no interest can help recruiting. What does it matter if he was contacted or not? The point is, we want to dispel rumors that he is considering leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I would limit his responses to those put out by publications with at least some credibility. If one of the known sites, or a known, credible media source mentions it...address it. If its just Yancy or a fan MB...ignore it.
He says he has no interest publicly to limit damage to recruiting. That does not prevent him or his agent from talking to other schools.
In his salary range, potential employers are not going to give a shit what he says publicly about staying at MSU.
Did Texas drop their interest in Herman when he denied having any interest or contact with them the day before he was officially offered?
LOL ... I think he been eliminated from that one. The "bend don't break" and "crooting new soldiers" combined to slam the door on his nomination ******Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
The ones who freak out to shit on Nafoom, OM Spirit, etc are idiots. The ones who want Dan to respond to stuff put out by an ESPN, CBS Sports, Yahoo, or similar reporters/networks are not idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXDawg
How would you feel if your employees went around telling everybody, including your customers and employees that they were looking at taking a job with a competitor? How would you feel if you heard from your customers that one of your top reps was talking to one of your biggest competitors about leaving you and taking several of your employees with them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
See now don't start that about Dan because that's not what he's doing. But to entertain your point, my employees that trust me and respect me and have a great relationship with me would not do that. Now if I had an employee that started that and it got back to me that he was undermining me and the job, he would be gone. But that is not Dan, he's not going to Oregon. Mountain meet mole hill!Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
When we hear reports from credible sources...right or wrong, that Dan is a candidate for another job, and Dan refuses to outright deny it, that is nowhere near your rep coming to you as you described.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
In your scenario, it would be like Dan hearing from Oregon, then going to Cohen and/or Dr. Keenum to tell them. As those on our side have said time-and-again, we are fine with that. But when it gets out...and the position Dan takes serves to cause us problems with recruiting, that's a different story.
A better analogy for you would be if your top rep was rumored to be considering going to a competitor and that rumor got out to your customers who like doing business with him, but are willing to shift their business elsewhere, to their 2nd favorite rep who works for your competitor because of their uncertainty your guy is staying to handle their business...would you be fine with your rep not telling your customers he's staying with you? Would you be OK with your rep allowing the rumor to spread and gain steam? Or would you expect him to, "shit or get off the pot", especially if you're compensating him higher than all but 15 people in his entire profession?
This all day longQuote:
Originally Posted by TXDawg
Going to make football great again.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166