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Originally Posted by TUSK
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Like who has done it?Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Oregon, FSU, KSU, Miami, Florida.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
lot's more, I'm sure... those were just my first thoughts....
Remember when the NFL implemented revenue sharing I believe. It was to improve the competition so the product would be better for the fans. It seems to have worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taog Redloh
doesn't the SEC do that now?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
I'll give you Oregon but that's it. The FL teams have good histories and KSU was a flash in the pan. Oregon has Nike money and the NCAA won't touch team. I remember nothing coming from the LaMichael James recruiting issues. You just have to ask yourself, is college football better when team X is good? Bama yes, Texas yes, KSU not so much. While I don't agree with this logic, it's just the way the system isQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Oregon = No top 10 recruiting classes & not in SECQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
FSU = elite location & a woman's school till after WW2
KSU = Huh? They don't belong in this conversation.
Florida = Elite location & mismanaged till 1990
Miami = Cheated their asses off
Maybe I'm just going too far back... but FSU, UF and Miami were absolute trash until the early 80s...Quote:
Originally Posted by Acid mouth
Well yea I guess they sorta do. However, there is still a large disparity in operating budgets. And there isn't currently anything in place to control boosters or additional supplemental revenue. I was thinking more in terms of other ways to even it out though. The NFL has also continued to implement additional policies to even things out and put a better product on the field. On any given weekend any team can beat another one. I was primarily responding to the Hillary Clinton comment by Taog and trying to make the point that this isn't necessarily a pure capitalism vs. socialism thing. There was a lot of resistance to revenue sharing in NFL when it was first proposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
I personally haven't thought too deeply on possible solutions and probably couldn't come up with any realistic ones if I did. Most of us on this board are pretty butt hurt right now with our team haha.
ETA: What I think this really comes down to is the players aren't allowed to share in the revenue ... so they go to the highest discrete (except in OMs case) bidder. If this were more capitalistic, the players would be receiving far more than they are. In the NFL, the QB makes more than the HC.
KState is our model to copy, if you ask me. Of course, that's just if you ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I think the way you change Alabama's advantage is you force them to not be able to "process" folks. You make scholarship offers for four years instead of one year. Of all the teams in any sport who exploit this the most, Saban and company are the biggest culprits. This will force them to not try to load up on players like a Lashley, a Davis, and a Knott as there is no way they thought those kids could contribute to their team. Those are kids that Saban recruited and got simply to keep them away from programs like Ole Miss and State. Of course all of it is moot if Saban wins it this year because there is a strong rumor he will retire if he wins the national championship this year.
Only problem is until this year, Mullen hasn't utilized the JUCO system as well as he could or should have. We can't depend on diamonds in the rough AND miss out on kids in our back yard like Brown, Lashley, Knott, and Davis. Those misses IMO were huge and will haunt us the next 3-4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taog Redloh
I hadn't heard that rumor, where's it being floated?... additionally, Davis has contributed some on the DL...Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
What about the next five star that will replace him? My guess is he won't finish his career at Alabama.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Saban has maybe 5 more years before hanging up the spurs. Bama isn't going to be on top forever. You are generalizing that college football now sucks just because we are in the midst of the greatest dynasty ever led by the greatest coach ever (yes, Bear Bryant is definitely a distant second at this point). Did college basketball suck in the 70's when UCLA won like 7 titles in a row? Did college baseball suck in the 90's when LSU won a zillion national titles? Did college football suck in the 60's and 70's when Bryant had Bama in their first dynasty? The answer to all those questions is no. It seems worse for us because we are right next door in the same division to one of the greatest runs in college sports history, but it is what it is. I guarantee you that Ohio State fans, Michigan fans, Washington fans, Florida fans, Texas A&M fans, and so forth do not think college football sucks right now. They all think they have just as good a shot as anyone and could stand toe to toe with Bama. And sooner or later one of those type teams will beat them on the big stage.
Urban Meyer is now 56-4 at Ohio State, including a playoff win over Saban. Just for the record.
If I'm a Florida fan, I can't watch Ohio state playQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
So you want things to stay the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
You wouldn't vote in favor of 65 scholarships?
BTW, this at least Bama's 3rd SEC dynasty. So there is something wrong with the rules
I've no clue... He may be good enough to play at Bammer & go pro after 3 years... He may not be good enough and may transfer to somewhere where he can contribute...Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
A lot of these kids think they are gonna be "the man" regardless of where they go... and they certainly aren't afraid of competition and that's the kind of cats I want...
The thing about 65 scholarships is it will make it a little more fair for us vs bama, but it'll make it more fair for usm vs us tooQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Saban to ND..
- becomes the only coach to win national champ at 3 schools.
- winning a natty at ND is prestigious in itself
- under armor would pay him an absurd amount of jack
- much easier road to the playoffs
- shit Saban himself may be getting bored at Bama
Not going to happen.. But ND should offer what ever he wants, and they would..
Kelly may not survive this year..
Agree. Better games.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Watching games between every other SEC program is infinitely better TV than any game Bama plays. Ole Miss vs Arkansas was awesome. NFL Sundays that come down to field goals are awesome
Saben is the best coach Alabama has ever had, Bear Bryant included. I actually liked the Bear, and I grew up in his time. Saben is more like Darth Vader, he wins , but it's hard to like him and easy to hate hm. The first step to beating him is understanding him and respecting him. The second step is waiting him out until he retires. Is absolutely sucks but it is what it is.
Hell no I wouldn't vote for 65 scholarships. All that does is funnel more talent to mid major teams and give us that many more teams to compete against. USM would suddenly become a legitmate threat for in-state recruiting and any misses on the recruiting trail would be intensely magnified. Meanwhile, teams like Alabama (and others) will still get the best players. Its just that fewer of them will be processed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Kentucky has had like 5 dynasties in SEC basketball, how do you want to change those rules? You can't just cry foul every time a team or program has a good multi year run. And Alabama isn't invincable either. They lost a game last year and should have lost the national title game if it weren't for a couple of trick plays and a TD on special teams. There are 3 or 4 teams capable of beating them on a neutral field this year, and one of them might.
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Yup. Nothing has changed and we still have the same problemQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
1. you're (mostly) correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
2. you don't (likely) read that quickly.
That being said.... while I concur with your premise, I don't believe it's aggressive enough to achieve what you want... and, if it were, it'd likely make things worse.
(Hypothetically/statistically speaking, of course...)
I’m not reading all 6 pages of this thread to give my answer. YES Bama makes it boring as hell. The only time I watch a bama game is if state is playing them or I think they are gonna lose. I also won’t watch Clemson or Ohio state. The outcome is inevitable and there no sense watching it.
I will watch bama play OM cuz I enjoy either outcome.
I am really confused by this. Harbaugh has been there what, 5-6 years? They have done nothing and get blown out against any legit team they play. Really surprised by how poorly he has done. I would not include them in this discussion anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
No they don't belong in the discussion. They're basically A&MQuote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
Meh, Michigan was having a good year back in 2016 and 2017 and got destroyed by Ohio State and they got knocked back down to reality. Harbaugh just can't get over that hump.
It' ain't Harbaugh. Outside of a shared national title that they didn't deserve in 1998, Michigan hasn't had the talent to get over the hump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choctaw Dawg