Drinking and posting, yes. Driving, no. Sounds like you might be as well! LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
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Drinking and posting, yes. Driving, no. Sounds like you might be as well! LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Go blow your partner liver. Don't be such a Nancy
Ha, fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Yeah, **** the Constitution. Let's put a government camera in your ****in bedroom to make sure you're doing it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Ya know, considering how antiquated MS is with its sexual acceptance, I'd be willing to bet there are still laws on the books against all things not "missionary style".Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
Or does Barney have ties to Old Misses? Bet someone would pay a pretty penny to have some negative attention turned on MSU for a bit and there's almost no better target than Dak besides Mullen. Anyone else remember the SPD cop that planted a shit ton of drugs on the frat boy that had rejected him a couple years earlier? It is very possible we haven't heard the whole story here yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmydawg
I'm not in a vehicle driving down the road that other people are traveling on in my bedroom. If I'm not doing it right it ain't going to affect anyone outside that bedroom. It has been tested repeatedly in court. You do NOT have a constitutional right to get behind the wheel while drunk. If you want to get hammered by all means have at it. Just don't drive while you are there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
Christ, guys...calm the 17 down.
Many of us know someone hurt by a drunk driver, so I know why many have strong opinions. Somewhat fortunately for me, no one close to me was a victim, except for some of my friends that were injured while drunk during my college days. My room-mate wrecked while drunk on dead man's curve near Skuna bottom between Gore Springs and Coffeeville. He didn't hurt anybody else but he went through his wind shield. His face was one big scab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
BUT, many of the statistics you see put out by MADD are rigged. If you're sober and you wreck and kill a drunk guy, that goes in the books as a drunk driving fatality. A couple of years ago a good friend of mine in Dallas was T-boned at an intersection. Not his fault. He was given a DUI because some bitch was probably texting her girl friend.
Bull****ing shit our laws are too soft now. They USED to be too soft when your generation was in college and entering young adulthood but just like everything else y'all couldn't ****ing control yourselves and now it's my generation and the one below us that gets to suffer the consequences of growing up in a society with much stricter laws and enforcement. In 1980 a college student was about a million times less likely to get a DUI than they are today. I'm not condoning drinking and driving I just don't really appreciate someone from your generation thumbing their nose at everyone else about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
disagree...We got to get home. If we got tougher on D&D- then bars would close all over the US
True, back in the good 'ol days a cop would call somebody to come pick you up, which was embarrassing enough. That is, if you weren't visibly intoxicated and could stand up straight. But now cops receive bonuses into their pensions for DUI arrests. Plus, it's a way for cities to get more tax revenue. But then there will always be people that get drunk, drive and kill people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Dak screwed up. It's his fault. His NFL career will be based on whether or not he can help a team win games. The main thing that was affected is his legacy at MSU. A lot of people looked at Dak as if he was different from most players/students. I still feel like the good he did for so many, especially kids, should outweigh his mistakes but he definitely damaged his legacy.
Yikes...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmydawg
What 'point' were they supposed to make? This wasn't an innocent mistake. You don't give anyone a pass if they are driving drunk. Actually, it would be more endangering to Dak's future if he thinks he's above the law and can get away with driving drunk. Dak is leaving Starkville in 2 months for the NFL, and I hope he understands that no matter where he is, he needs to be smart and surround himself with people that will look out for him.
Dak an incredible leader, and I bet if the roles were reversed, he'd arrest the star athlete instead of giving him a free pass.
There's a huge difference between driving under the influence (DUI) and driving while intoxicated (DWI). Let's see what he blew first before saying he was driving drunk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaver
I'm thinking now we should outlaw carrying a gun in a vehicle because someone got killed in a drive-by shooting.
It don't take much alcohol to blow .08. Not sure what he blew ... just saying.
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Attempted murder is a specific intent crime.
Say whaaaatt????Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
What's this here "Constitution" you talking about??Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
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Sorry bout that dude, I sympathize with you on this one. Old codgers tend to forget all the stupid shit they did that probably should've gotten them either thrown under the jail or killed. I am one, but I haven't forgotten. My life is littered with mistakes. I'm just glad to be on a board now where there are a significant number of perfect old codgers that never made mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
It absolutely sucks being a State fan.
That's my thoughts on this. Sucks.
Lol thanks your post is goldQuote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
This is so stupid on so many levels.
First, Dak just instructed any team looking at him he's more likely to be Johnny M. than Russell W.
May not be true, but it now can be inferred from his actions.
It likely cost him $100ks if not $1Ms.
Second, He's the face of the university at the moment.
He could've called dozens of people to drive him home, including university president.
Third, while I agree with Barkley that athletes shouldn't be roll models, for some kids they are.
Of all those 8 to 12 year olds running around in 15 jerseys, some of them are now more likely to engage in this idiotic behavior.
For all you idiots saying the SPD should've given him a pass, have you ever had a loved one affected by a dui?
It's a crime for a reason.
The .08 threshold is way too low... We have criminalized going out to eat and having a glass of wine these days. It's only the people driving at 1.3 or more that should get popped.
I think you 'd see thing a little different if you have had a family member killed by a drunk driver. If he did it he should have been arrested and punished.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmydawg
Jeez, you guys haven't learned how to spin a story at all. You would think that by watching OM and the CL spin stories so much that y'all would learn something. Let me show you how it's done:
"Dak getting a DUI is a good thing. Just last week the Cleveland Browns scouts were all over him. Of course Dak smiles and says all the right things to them but everyone knows that if there is one team he does NOT want to be drafted by it is the Browns.
So afterwards Dak talks to his agents who talks to a few teams that assure him that they are interested and there is nothing that would change that. So Dak does the one thing that would disqualify the Cleveland Browns from drafting Dak: getting a DUI. I'm sure the SPD were probably in on it too. After the Manziel fiasco the Browns cannot draft another SEC QB that seemingly likes to drink. Problem averted."
This is exactly how OM and the CL would spin this story if it were Eli or Chad Kelly. Get with the program guys.
Two drink max and you'll be fine. Want more than two drinks don't drive. Call Uber, a taxi or a friend BEFORE you go out. That's where people make the mistake. They don't spend money when they are sober to get them to the bar without their vehicle. Then they drink too much and lose their discipline to not just drive their own vehicle home. If your car isn't with you you can't possibly drive it home. Yea it sucks paying $40 on Uber to and from but it's way better than getting a DUI. Also don't be on the road after midnight. You're a fish swimming in a pool full of sharks at that time of night. All the cops out are looking to bust everyone for DUIs. If you've had more than two and you're driving after midnight you're just asking to get a DUI. Gotta be smart before even leaving the house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schultzy
Great thread.
Dak is trying to handle all of this by himself. He's lost his mom and he's the only adult he has. Why hasn't Mullen found him a mentor of some kind to look out for him , a former player or something. Shit help the guy navigate all he's had. To do solo.
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schultzy
We sell alcohol at damn near every restaurant in the US. We sell it in quick stores. Well sell it in grocery stores. We have alcohol meeting places called bars for people to meet up and drink. Drinking and driving is never going away. We support it too much
dak has to be smarter but ******* how terrible is spd. some moron who never done shit thinks he's some big dick - GOT DAK BAWS. OH YEAAAA.
die scrub
If this was a roadblock or check point ... And Dak wasn't ripped drunk or being a dick to the officer , SPD has got to let this go.. Let him call someone to come get them, something..Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
If he was all over the road or whatever whole different animal.. For sure arrest him get him off road..
But If this is a case of an officer pounding his chest over this , then that's BS..
And yeah where are Daks boys?.? **** no reason this guy should be driving drunk or sober..
The result of this is...
Dak gets off , and the lawyers get paid..
Hurts his cred and draft status
Ex players and NFL guys see shit like this and don't like coming back here.. ( AD and the cowbell fiasco).. Not saying this keeps players from coming back here but it damn sure don't help..
In the end it's on Dak.. Period..
Might better check ur boys or women you roll with... They can't let this happen...
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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
Well, he has his brothers but I get your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
Because we are a mom and pop organization in a competitive market with fortune 500 companies.
It has become about generating revenue, as opposed to saving lives. Lawyers & PDs are making some dough on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schultzy
I can't wait to see this board when the NTSB drops the legal BAC to .05
I agree. Ref. What they did is better for us and also better for Dak in the long run.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
Gotta agree here. After everything Dak has done for the State and community, they expect me to believe they couldn't have handled the situation quietly and avoided giving him a DUI? I call bullshit. We've heard for years the SPD has an antagonistic relationship with our football players - this is just more evidence of it. And I put this partly on Mullen for not making an effort to cultivate a good relationship with SPD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmydawg
Also, the DUI laws in MS are crazy. Literally, 2-3 beers puts you over the limit now. They have lowered it that much. Had a big time Bulldog Club guy tell me last night "I went to Como Steakhouse tonight and had 3 beers. If the cops had stopped me on the way home, they'd have given me a DUI. That's how low the BA level is now."
That said, I'm guessing the Clarion Liar is making this a much bigger deal than it really is. The hell with all the flooding or other actual news in the state. Nope, a MSU football player and potential 2nd-3rd round Draft pick got a DUI. Splatter that shit all over the front page, baby!
Retarded response as usual when there's any criticism of your boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61