When I heard cam Cameron was leaving lsu, I thought of Thompson. I don't want lsu to hire a good spread OC before we sign ThompsonQuote:
Originally Posted by drummerdawg
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When I heard cam Cameron was leaving lsu, I thought of Thompson. I don't want lsu to hire a good spread OC before we sign ThompsonQuote:
Originally Posted by drummerdawg
Ha! I hear you. I wasn't satisfied with losing Lashley then hearing AJ's comments, but I'm relaxed about 2017. We'll get Willie Gay (#1 defensive player in the state) and Kylin Hill (#1 actual running back in the state). Not to mention a 4* qb whose going to bring a 4* db with him. We're good for 2017.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
We just offered Mason at Noxubee. WR that has a chance to blow up this summer. We have a good shot with him
Forgot about this one.... We won't be his last offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
This is a bit off topic and I didn't want to start a new thread in case there was nothing to it, but is there anything to the rumors that we're hiring a current high school HC for our off the field recruiting spot?
Delete that post Dawg Ex please.
This is the rare time where I actually have some info, and it's out of left field...but Gibbs actually told me directly that we're recruiting him harder than anybody but that he wants Tennessee to offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
Give some time for T Buck and Sirmon to work on some of these kids. Even the ones that seem locks for Ole Miss at this time, anything can happen in an entire year
Amen you would've thought we had back to back 0-12 seasons!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
It is real simple on OM. Their coaches are great recruiters by making these kids feel like they are the greatest player that ever played. They tell them how great they are. Nothing is said about having to work hard or you will have to earn your postion, but they will start as a freshman. They just tell them everything they want to hear, and the Mom and apple pie stuff. Shea Patterson was also a recruiting boost for them by his committing early and his active recruiting to get some recruits' attention. Some players have connections to OM (Benito Jones for example) and others do not, but the ones who do, or grew up in an OM family are more times than not going to got to OM if they get the opportunity. OK, the coaches show them all this love, but the most highly rated players usually want a little more than the love. They want big bucks, and OM probably now has the largest pay scale for recruits and/or players in the NCAA. So if they want a certain player, then basically money is no object. And if you don't think most of these (not all as some have better moral value) high 4* and 5* don't want the big money to play for a school, then you just don't understand the recruiting game. If OM really wants a recruit and they have to play the money game to get him, then money is basicallly no object. Until the NCAA does something about this, they will continue to do this. Hopefully the NCAA will make an example concerning their investigation(s).
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
For some reason, you just don't understand how the OM Network and snake oil sales pitch to recruits works.
Shit- you're depressing me telling me that Akers is already gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
A couple of Juco kids I was told about tonight to keep an eye for MSU next cycle are DB KT McCollin of Northwest and WR Ralph Leonard at East MS. Both would be EE
This is great news IMO. Mullen has abandoned a great pipeline with juco's in our backyards. Regardless of what people think there is still tons of talent there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting
With the new NCAA acceptance rules on academics, those pipelines are about to be infinitely more stocked than they have been in a very long time...Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I guess we should just fold up shop and start the 2018 thread now, because 2017 is over****Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
This year, out of state recruiting will be crucial. Both MSU and the bears will have big classes. Probably both will sign over 30. There are probably at most 20 SEC kids in the 2017 class. Its deeper than this past year, but does not have any top 100 players other than the ones discussed above. Im not sure Bowie is a top 100 player, Gay is probably close, Hill the same. Akers will probably be a top 50 player, but I think that is more of reputation than production. Avery will be top 100-200. After those guys, there is a drop off. Still some kids that can develop, there are a lot of players like Kaderrion Mason - guys we offer early, but don't go hard after because we don't think he is an SEC player.
My biggest concern is that Im not hearing much in the way of DL in the 2017 class. There are a few OL, but once again - no sure fire top 100 OT's that could come in and compete.
We need to hit AL, GA and LA extremely hard. I really hope its LA. LSU is leaving 20-30 SEC players up for grabs in their state every year. I was hoping we would land a recruiter with that last coaching spot with LA ties, but maybe he helps us in TX.
That is the rumor, very smart move the staff. Makes me think that Mullen is ready to step up in 2017.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Brad Peterson would be a HR. Gonna have to pay him though.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Yup gonna have to go national this year. Most important class in MSU historyQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
RL transferring backing home from UFI I think.. So he will for sure be a EE..Quote:
Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting
I don't understand how he is all the sudden a take when no one offered him last year and he didn't play this season at FIU. I mean don't get me wrong he was a stud at Starkville but it just seems odd to me. Maybe we didn't have space at the time? But still he didn't have any other offers worth anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
He is backQuote:
Originally Posted by mic
Didn't say they were takes. I said they gonna watch them and see how they progress. Msu is interested. But they gotta have good years.
There will be circumstances that will greatly increase our chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
go on...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
Yep he just hired 2 guys that recruit well nationally and if the news on this latest hire is correct we will have in state covered well also. It appears as if Dan is ready to hit a new level. I like it!Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Can someone explain how the imbalance came about in the classes and what can be done to get them more balanced? With the talk of taking 30+ next year again, which we have to do, won't that just make the imbalance even greater down the road? Unless I guess if we took several juco next year to go with the jr. class on board, but the way we redshirt them, not sure how that plays out.
He play at FIU and FAU?
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Originally Posted by defiantdog
Don't know how it will effect Keyshawn's recruitment but his QB is Tristan Gebbia (Rich's son) , a NM legacy who just came out with a top 5 including the Bears ? ? ?
It'$ going to take a lot of convincing thi$ kid to go to OM to ride the pine for 4 year$. They are only offering him to gain an advantage on Johnson.
Geez, going after another receiver? Maybe if they recruited to needs and not just chances to land any highly rated player they'd actually have the depth to not only beat Bama, but also avoid getting drummed by memphis in the same year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
Jack walker has been CB'd 2 times to us. Are we thinking about taking 2 qb's?
No offense but metcalfe and AJ were said to not go to the same either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Cam Akers recruitment is far from over. We have a very good shot here.
That's true & it's why you say never in recruiting but that's been the talk for a while. I hope we can swing both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbcmortgageman
The 2013 class has been decimated by attrition and guys that left early.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips
Class of 23 players.
2 early entrants to the NFL(Jones, Wilson)
2 JUCOs that never finished their careers at MSU(Cox, Chappelle)
1 never showed up(Sandberg)
9 are gone without real contributions(Thomas, Irvin-Sills, Hammond, Christy, Wells, Flowers, Simpson, Samuel, McGrath)
4 never redshirted and will be seniors this year along with the huge 2012 class that almost all did redshirt(Shump, Ross, Clayborn, Cleveland)
And 5 will be rsJRs -- 2 of which I'd say are iffy to finish football careers at MSU(Myles, Coman, Williams, Harris, Gray)
As awesome as the 2012 class has turned out to be -- the 2013 class has been bordering on total disaster. Only 9 remain going into year 4 -- and possibly only 7 in reality. Only ONE in the trenches on either side.
Yes, you are correct -- a huge class next year upsets the balance even more. But the only way to correct that is to take a normal size class -- essentially put ourselves on a 10 scholly probation against the 85 -- and then take a normal class in the c/o 2018. As is, there are an absolute maximum of 9 scholarship juniors on roster -- counting all 3 incoming JUCOs, Dez Harris, and Damien Williams.
OM getting Avery's cousin (trying to get)is a great move on their part. Both can play Without the transfer, we were in great shape to get the younger Avery
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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Hmm that's tricky. I'd almost lean towards balance unless I had a top 15 class knocking on the doorQuote:
Originally Posted by engie
So w/ Akers going to OM, Bowie already committed to OM, and Avery going to OM w/ his cousin, that means we have already lost the top 3 players in the state before the summer?
http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Foo...chool&State=MS
I thought this was supposed to be our good year...