Dear Clarion Ledger....

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Originally Posted by thf24

IF.

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Yep...how many times has that word been uttered by State fans through the centuries?

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Originally Posted by Bishop6

It'll never happen

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I have to agree. I've been a Bulldog too long for me to believe otherwise.

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Originally Posted by MagicDawg

I have to agree. I've been a Bulldog too long for me to believe otherwise.

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Yet they still hold the distinction as hardest hit team since SMU.

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Originally Posted by MagicDawg

I have to agree. I've been a Bulldog too long for me to believe otherwise.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm keeping my expectations tempered, but this time is different. This isn't the usual isolated instance of improper benefits. They've run themselves into a perfect storm with multiple players and areas of violation. Combine that with the NCAA's current need to show it still has teeth, and there's a much better chance than usual they get burned.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I don't view this as a huge deal because, just like they did with Penn State, if the sanctions are bad enough, the NCAA will probably allow players to transfer without penalty.

Ole Miss will get some good signing day publicity, but, if this is as bad as the rumors, it will all shake itself out in-time

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That's true, we need to stay in touch with Benito Jones and some of those guys so we can take them when they are allowed to transfer.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I don't view this as a huge deal because, just like they did with Penn State, if the sanctions are bad enough, the NCAA will probably allow players to transfer without penalty.

Ole Miss will get some good signing day publicity, but, if this is as bad as the rumors, it will all shake itself out in-time

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I hope so. The kids deserve a chance to move on so they can enjoy their college football career.

I wouldn't be holding my breath on transfers. Those incidents are few and far between. Only in extreme scandals or repeat offenders who are receiving severely escalating penalties have they allowed players to transfer because of sanctions. IF it happens with UNM, then that's the least of their worries. But it's way down the list of what might be a final outcome that follows sanctions.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Rumor is that they are being hit with 30 allegations across multiple sports- football and a couple women's sports- resulting in LOIC- Lack of Institutional Control. Also, that the NCAA has new leads they are still investigation past the 30 allegations.

If true- they won't get SMU'ed cause the NCAA said never again- but they gonna get the next closest thing.

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If the NCAA is still investigating, why have their issued their NOA now? Wouldn't they wait until the investigation is complete before issuing a NOA?

So will big brother Patterson let little brother go to the bears , if this is all true?

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Originally Posted by TXDawg

If the NCAA is still investigating, why have their issued their NOA now? Wouldn't they wait until the investigation is complete before issuing a NOA?

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Could be that it's an endless rabbit hole & they had finally found enough to declare LOIC. If the NCAA has found enough to declare LOIC, then it make sense to go ahead & place sanctions or else you risk investigating for 10 years & penalizing people that weren't involved.

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Originally Posted by TXDawg

If the NCAA is still investigating, why have their issued their NOA now? Wouldn't they wait until the investigation is complete before issuing a NOA?

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I asked that- and the response:

A) There's been so much- they decided to conclude most of what they have to close that part

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B) They could be dealing with a time constraint on some of it

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I asked that- and the response:

A) There's been so much- they decided to conclude most of what they have to close that part

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B) They could be dealing with a time constraint on some of it

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I think it's part A

I have asked a few times, "If the investigation never ends, does the team ever go on probation?"

This appears to be the NCAA's answer to this question

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Could be that it's an endless rabbit hole & they had finally found enough to declare LOIC. If the NCAA has found enough to declare LOIC, then it make sense to go ahead & place sanctions or else you risk investigating for 10 years & penalizing people that weren't involved.

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I hope this is right, but I guess we'll have to wait 90 days to find out. They're sure to drag the response out as long as possible.

When does the 90 days start? How about putting a countdown at the top of the site.

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Originally Posted by Bishop6

When does the 90 days start? How about putting a countdown at the top of the site.

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The day they receive the Notice of Allegations. That date is what many want to know.

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Originally Posted by Travelingdawg

So will big brother Patterson let little brother go to the bears , if this is all true?

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This is a good question. Surely if this is all true, his brother would protect lil' bro and they would GTFO.

I would think that would be a red flag , and we would know by signing day.

He is an EE so should enroll pretty soon

If all member institutions receive notice,mother surely they are using this against Ole Miss in recruiting.
Why wouldn't one of these institutions let the information slip into the public arena?

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Originally Posted by Big4Dawg

This is a good question. Surely if this is all true, his brother would protect lil' bro and they would GTFO.

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Absolutely no way they are telling elder Patterson anything other than pumping sunshine up his southern orifice. You can guarantee he is on a strictly need to know basis. Last thing they would do is say anything to him that would jeopardize their star QB of the future changing his mind.

What I would like to know is what would they tell recruits on their big OV weekend if they point blank ask them what's up.

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Originally Posted by Bishop6

It'll happen

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There, fixed it for you. I like it much better this way.

Roy McLain will finally be vindicated. Wouldn't that be nice.

Any chance Orgeron could get mixed up in this?
After all, wasn't he the initial implementer?

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Originally Posted by Bishop6

When does the 90 days start? How about putting a countdown at the top of the site.

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Need a clock showing days that nothing happens. It would surpass the Country's deficit numbers

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Originally Posted by raymond21

Need a clock showing days that nothing happens. It would surpass the Country's deficit numbers

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Do you want bet your 500Vcash on that? In fact I would give you 10 to 1 odds.

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Originally Posted by raymond21

Need a clock showing days that nothing happens. It would surpass the Country's deficit numbers

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If it was Friday then it will be 15 April - Death, Taxes, and The NCAA - a Trifecta for Douchebags

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Originally Posted by Travelingdawg

So will big brother Patterson let little brother go to the bears , if this is all true?

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If Patterson goes elsewhere, they are gonna be in some big trouble regarding QB depth come fall. Hearing there is another QB hanging up the cleats.

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Originally Posted by EMDawg

If Patterson goes elsewhere, they are gonna be in some big trouble regarding QB depth come fall. Hearing there is another QB hanging up the cleats.

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Patterson is all but enrolled

I've been active on State boards since the late 90s and for as far back as I remember, there are always offseason threads about how the Bears are going down and nothing big ever comes of it and while I hope this time is different, history tells me otherwise.

My personal rule is that until these rumors start popping up within other fanbases in the SEC that are more connected to the SEC and NCAA than we are, it's just the seasonal "TSUN going down!" pitchfork riots that have been going on since the early days of sports message boards. Has anyone seen these same rumors from anywhere outside of our own?

10....9....8....7....6

Been following MSU boards for several years. ED rumors seem to pan out more often than not.

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Originally Posted by dawggoneit

Been following MSU boards for several years. ED rumors seem to pan out more often than not.

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I would say a tempered version of things. Like when you see drawings for a stadium, and after all the concrete is poured, it's a diet version of the grandiose palace you imagined.

Much in the same way, people (elsewhere) concluded we were going to go under from the Redmond fiasco.

On a side note, anyone contact TMZ about it? They scooped the planet on Glen Frey's passing...

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Originally Posted by EMDawg

If Patterson goes elsewhere, they are gonna be in some big trouble regarding QB depth come fall. Hearing there is another QB hanging up the cleats.

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Patterson is going to be there. The redshirt Pellerin is legit as well. As much as everyone is looking for this fall from grace -- they are in very good shape at the QB position.

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Originally Posted by MannyDiazzzzNuts

I've been active on State boards since the late 90s and for as far back as I remember, there are always offseason threads about how the Bears are going down and nothing big ever comes of it and while I hope this time is different, history tells me otherwise.

My personal rule is that until these rumors start popping up within other fanbases in the SEC that are more connected to the SEC and NCAA than we are, it's just the seasonal "TSUN going down!" pitchfork riots that have been going on since the early days of sports message boards. Has anyone seen these same rumors from anywhere outside of our own?

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This has been on Bama boards too