didnt say he was a character problem- but he never wanted to work out. Brought Mommy and Daddy in for a big meeting between them, Stands, and SC. Stands backed family.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
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didnt say he was a character problem- but he never wanted to work out. Brought Mommy and Daddy in for a big meeting between them, Stands, and SC. Stands backed family.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
Yes- we are not just recruiting one player throughout the entire countryQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Good, why is it harder than my dick with Daddario to find anything out about bball recruiting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This is why it is absolutely impossible to take anything you say seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Fred Thomas
2012: FG%-.328, 3P%-.238
2013: FG%-.337, 3P%-.292
Keep fighting the good fight though**
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Originally Posted by engie
17 that. Patterson I'll take. I don't remember him being allergic to defense or the team being better when he was on the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
did you show Ray your stats, Maybe he will let Him Play again. And you posted those shitty numbers to prove he had a jumpshot?. You still think we going to win 6-7 SEC games?Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
Excellent post:Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
I am to lazy to do it myself, but I bet there are at least a dozen other programs that could be used as a similar examples of success with low* or NR players in the past 10/15 years. Personally, I believe Coach ray has done a pretty decent job of recruiting and we will begin to see the fruits of that next year.
didn't hurt, sounded kinda dumb. when are you and Engie gonna have your Rick Ray circle Jerk?. Using less than 30% shooting as justification of a jump shot. And while ya'll are throwing up numbers why don't you show made shots vs attempts. A brick is a brick is a brick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
holy shit....you were totally and completely wrong. Just stop while you are behind. You're like a snowman describing a sunburnQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
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Originally Posted by Coach34
Yes tcdog, you were "totally and completely wrong". His shooting % has increased almost a whole percentage point. From 32.8% to 33.7%. If you can't see the improvement, you are blind.
And just to make sure, that is what you guys were arguing, right? Not that 33.7% shooting percentage is good or anything, right?
Thanks for interjecting this dumbassery in support of other dumbassery.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
Allow me to refresh you on what was actually said -- instead of you making up bullshit "you think we thought".
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/12222/m_...-6uq8-31kb.jpg
Feel free to show where we said "Fred shot the ball well this year" or "if you can't see improvement in him, you are blind". No. Your boy made the dumb ass statement about Fred's "regression" which was ACTUALLY improvement -- and got called on it. No agenda there** Nothing more or less. Continue spinning away though.
Well saidQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
PREACH!Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
I think me and tcdog70 see eye to eye on our basketball situation
Sure as hell seems that way. Troutman is the ONLY player that has been brought in or even talked about by Paul Jones or any of the other recruiting sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yet he is scoring less this year for us. Also he didn't even play a minute vs Arkansas last game because of "Matchup Problems"Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
I think what Engie was really trying to say with those stats is that FTF didn't lose his jump shot. He NEVER had one to begin with and hasn't found it yet. Just poking the fire here. Enjoying the read.
Then that tells me Ray is absolutely the right guy for the jobQuote:
Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg
Goodness, you are so eat up with your agenda you can't even take a little light ribbing. You and coach just blasted a guy for claiming a player, who increased his shooting percentage almost a whole percent, from a dismal 32.8% to a dismal 33.7%, had "lost" his shot. Obviously, anyone can see he wasn't technically correct. And everyone can also see how stupid you look trotting out such abysmal records to prove you are right, albeit just barely.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
The good folks that read the board can decide who is spinning on this one. And who is laughing at who.
AbsoFREAKINGlutely With his one road win in 2 years 1-18 on the road to go along with a 7-25 SEC record RICK RAY IS AWESOME!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We have won 13 games this year 7 of which against teams with an RPI of 250 or better and who haven't won 10 games this year. Another loss is a home loss to a TCU team who is 0-15 in the Big12. But yeah we are improving our shooting from 36 to 37%
K.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
I'm beginning to feel like there are split feelings about Rick Ray among the Bulldog faithful
Do you feel Rick Ray is getting outcoached- or is he being out-talented???? I'll hang up and listenQuote:
Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg
Well that guy appeared to be claiming that it was a bad thing that FTF gained 20 pounds because it resulted in him losing his jump shot. Thinking that having a good S&C program is inconsistent with having good shooting should be called out. It's just not true and gaining twenty pounds is not what's keeping FTF from being able to shoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
Some games outtalented such as the obvious Kentucky, Florida, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
But Ray has been outcoached by Trent Johnson's abomination of a TCU team, as well as being out coached by Auburn, Utah State, etc... We are lucky we didn't lose to Southeastern Louisiana and Loyola and even Jackson State. JSU outcoached Ray as did Southeastern and don't give me the have as much talent as we do argument.
See I didn't read it that way. Coach was arguing that our S&C program was good because Fred had gained 20 pounds. tcdog appeared to me to be making the point that gaining 20 lbs hasn't made Fred any better. And I know he actually claimed he was worse, which is technically not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
I think the better question might be why is Fred shooting so bad in college when he averaged over 50% in high school.
I said it yesterday ,whether I like it not Ray needs a 3rd season with a full roster to show what he got .The fan base is so split on him that in the end could cost him his job. Basketball use to make a little money but not now We got a game tonight but we are still fighting over this like we got a say so in the matter ,not one thread on the game ,that is sick.
I'd add Vandy to the outcoached list too. They have 7 scholarship players. Also note to add, TCU best player didn't even play against us.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg
Typical Bundy post - May 2010Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg
Bundy....Bundy....you just never learnQuote:
Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg
Well gaining 20 lbs usually won't make anybody a better shooter unless they were particularly weak to begin with, but it usually does help with defense and rebounding. I don't see any point in criticizing the things we are doing right (or at least better) simply because we suck at shooting. There is a point at where too much weight gain can limit your mobility, but we haven't been anywhere near that problem for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
Bundy's next post - May 2010Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg
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Originally Posted by MadDawg
of course you didnt. They guy was completely wrong and everybody can see it.
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Originally Posted by engie
wow- it's like he has a template for these
Damn Engie- that is going to be the first ever "Elitedawgs Remembers" post
And to be clear -- I'm paraphrasing -- those aren't his actual posts from the time period... But they were similar in nature...
Ahhhhh
Let's also add that one of the knocks on Cohen also was that he wasn't bringing in high-rated recruiting classes
And didn't know what he was doing bringing in all the JUCOs on the front end...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Book your tickets for the ncaa tournament championship game two years from now!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Amazing thread. Coach Ray is our coach. He's not perfect. He's getting better. If he stays up and is able to keep the team up through all this negativity, he will have accomplished something extraordinary.
I once posted that games are seldom won or lost on the free throw line, but this team has already proven me wrong two or three times this season. 4-12 at the half killed up. But look at it from the shooters' point of view; those empty seats are distracting, and that apathy is infetuous.