37 milli to get fired. Man I made a horrible life decision by being a productive citizen.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
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37 milli to get fired. Man I made a horrible life decision by being a productive citizen.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Yeah. That was a curious comment he made earlier today about "zero chance I quit". The smoke seemed to be curling then.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
It is truly insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
Yeah. He was daring them to fire him.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
I?m putting my Mullen to UK prediction in now.
Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
There is a difference between Richard Adkerson telling Keenum and Selmon that they want Dan back and a guy from Madison that lives in Reunion telling them they want Dan back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
Yeah. And then Lebby ****ed him over on senior day and played the guy everyone wanted the whole game and the fans talked about how awesome it was even though we scored fewer points than only one other SEC game this year so I don't know what he's complaining about there. Lebby did what the fans wanted so that should make them happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Fcuk Shapen - he?s a paid professional and he needs to act accordinglyQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I agree 100%. That would be like me telling Selmon who to hire. Hell, I wouldn't even get the time of day from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I'm just referring to Selmon or any AD. It seems like their hands are tied.. especially with football. Just seems to me that the big boosters are actually the guys who "make the hire."
It's really no different from companies or anything else that involves big money. Shareholders control companies, not so much the CEO.
And maybe not all universities run that way. I'm just going off how the Florida hire was decided this cycle.
Todd, we've said all year Lebby sees these players every day and he will play the players he thinks give us the best chance to win. He said Shapen would play if 100%. Apparently he didn't think he was so he went with KT. The fact it was senior day is irrelevant. So Lebby did not 17 him over. He did what coaches are supposed to do. Grown people should not act like petulant children even when they're pissed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Nope. Will Rogers ran for -97 yards on 62 carries in 2021Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Agree with Ed here. Lebby didn't play Shapen because the fans wanted him to. Lebby made that decision because he thought KT gave us the best chance to win. Imo Shapen doesn't score anymore points that KT did. OM got pressure all day and Shaoen would have been sacked 6+ times. KT missed throws but Shapen also does. In the end, it wouldn't have mattered. We got to see the future if we can keep him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I understand your point about Senior Day. But in the end it's a business. Even more now than ever. I'm glad he went with KT. 380 yards of offense isn't too bad. Especially with our O line.
Shapen also went through Senior day last year.
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Originally Posted by sandjunky
I'm not complaining about it. I'm wondering why someone else was.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
But yeah- he did **** him over. Could have had him take the first snap and sat him. Lebby didn't do it but that's his business.
I do think it proves my point that our fans value QB running too much when we played a guy who couldn't complete 50% of his passes the whole game and we scored fewer points and we have fans that talk about how it was the right move.
The 26 PPG in SEC play coming in to the 19 we scored says otherwise. I think the "right thing" to do was to play both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
My hope is now that KT has the reigns and improves as a passer that our fans will come around. But they probably won't.
Dangit. Should have known. Those two are the closest to be the same as any two QBs we have had in recent memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
He couldnt complete 50% and it was our 2nd worst scoring day this season and our fans act like he put on a Heisman performance- lol. It's hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Lebby didn't do anything to Shapen. Shapen earned his warm seat on the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Why is only the Lebby supporters who are saying Lebby was wrong to play Taylor over Shapen in the Egg Bowl? If you really think he succumbed to fan pressure and made a decision that made us less likely to win, shouldn't that be yet another reason to want to move on from him?
I can agree that Shapen should have started. For sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
And I'm not a fan that wants just a running qb. I dont want Sellers at SC, any of Auburns QB the past few years, Van Buren, etc. Thats not the kind of qb I want. I want one that can throw and run. I have emphasized alot on KT running abilities and that's only because of our horrendous O Line. And the Egg Bowl showed why it's so important. It's just the ability to turn a negative into a positive. I hope he turns out to be our leading passer in school history and escape the pressure when he needs to. I will never want to just have a guy that can run at the qb position. That's the worse "positive" thing that can happen.. especially in our conference.
Vs sec only...Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
Shapen 134 passer rating
KT 124 passer rating
Both were horrible passing in the sec, but one could actually be productive with his legs. Not sure where Shapen being a good passer is coming from
unfortunately games outside of conference count also. Shapen competed 64.4% of his passes this year. Thats pretty good.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Ok, all games...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Shapen 143 passer rating
KT 134 passer rating
I have read this board pretty heavy and haven't seen anyone even refer to a heisman like performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
What everyone is happy about as fans of Mississippi State.. is a freshman in his first start got the opportunity against their rival who happened to be the #7 team in the country and led an opening drive of 97 yards. In the end, he accounted for over 380 yards of total offense. That's with completing under 50% of his passes.
I can be proud of a performance like that by any of our players. I dont care their name, position, graduation year... whatever. I dont care about none of that. I am proud I watched our freshman qb perform better than most thought be would. Wasn't a "Heisman performance" but considering all the circumstances... it was a damn good performance. Hail State.
Qbr...
Shapen 56.1 (16th of 16 qualifiers in sec)
KT 88.9
It's probably pointless man. Some people choose not to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He built his passer rating in blowouts vs Georgia and Mizzou plus a 1 yd tipped TD pass vs Texas and a trick play vs the mighty Alcorn Braves. Gtfo with the stat shitQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
of passers in the SEC with 300 passes- Shapen is 7th in completion percentage...I can do this tooQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah, all metrics are wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They kinda are. We averaged 30.5 PPG this year. Offense wasnt the problem. Our lack of talent on D was our problem. Until we buy a defense- QB play doesnt really matter. KT will be a good QB next year. We better spend alot of money on the trenchesQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
KT helped with that. He was tied with booth for rushing td lead. Booth missing the 1st half didn't help us scoring wise FridayQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
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Originally Posted by Coach34
Yeah, Shapen was not bad. Considering the OL, he was actually really good. People trying to trash him are always the same ones. They think the back up is always the second coming. They don't really care about the actual issues but somebody has to pay the price for their misery. Never mind what Shapen did and how the defense did not help. But changing out a QB cures all!
I have high hope for KT, but he took just as many sacks on average as Shapen. He passed for 48% vs ole miss.
Yall can get off your knees and wipe the slobber away from your chins boys, Shapen isn?t coming back. Swear, haven?t seen this much jaw stretching since Arnett was running the SEC
KT's 351 total yards Friday is more than Shapen put up in his career (41 games). It was KT's first career start.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
It was LEBBY who thought it was the right move. Probably because he didn't think Shapen was 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The ones arguing with me saying Shapen is better also defend Lebby at every turn. Quite the pretzel they're twisting themselves intoQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Think Lebby made it pretty clear Shapen would play if 100%. Therefore it doesn't really matter who is the better QB. Lebby felt KT was the better choice based on the circumstances. Now why he didn't get the first snap, I wouldn't be surprised if Shapen reacted badly to that prospect and that's why it didn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I've been out of the loop most of the day aside from a text from a friend about Lane and then a quick scroll of Reddit to read about that. I was happy to come to my favorite State board to find a thread entitled "2026 Football Coaching Staff Tracker." With over 100 posts, I was excited to read about what were surely some major developments. Instead, it's nearly six pages of the same back and forth from the other threads about Lebby, Dan, etc., with no end in sight. Lol. Should've known better.
I think we probably would’ve hit on a big pass or two with Blake and maybe scored 1 extra TD. It would’ve changed exactly nothing. Giving KT the reigns to learn and build was the right move. I do think we probably get 1 extra score and a pick 6/strip sack with BlakeQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7