Even if he's at 40 we're behind. Not even considering the defensive liability.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
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Even if he's at 40 we're behind. Not even considering the defensive liability.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Unfortunately my concerns going into this season came true. I was not impressed with any of these portal players and we lost almost our entire team to the portal. Add to that Bartlett apparently not being in shape just really limits our options from a freshman level. Achor was a locker room problem at KSU. I think alot of people saw Hubbard back and assumed we would be a tourney team again, but this team seems like Hubbard, young freshman and players from mid major conferences not ready for power 5 play
You?re not watching are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
They finally call the moving screen. I swear they've set a moving screen 20 times tonight
Yes, whyQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
26 points off 24 turnovers. Game and match.
Jans somehow made us worse offensively AND defensively.
The guru missed Ali, didn't he (you)?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I will say that Iowa State is really good.
No, I saw him. It just dawned on me that you usually listen on the radio but post like you are watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
No, I'm watching. If I'm listening, I say radio said "this or that"Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
They surely are a top 20 team. Us? We took a shank to the buttocks that is somewhat concerning.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Jans said he focused on defense in the portal and here we are giving up 93+Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
And these guys are making millions from rev share and nil
I'm definitely having a hard time finding the positives.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Hard to defend transition after TOs. Now they struggled in half court too, but the TOs are the story tonight. Let's see if they can clean that up by Kansas stQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Talents not there buddy. We will win some games at home but we aren?t making the tournament.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Liked achor tonight...Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
9 pts 8 reb
Don't feel like Hubbard will turn it over 7 times many games this season.
Going to be a long season if this is the best we have
Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We dont have a pg, dont have athletic wings that can shoot or create and dont have any quality bigs. Hubbard is not a pg or long enough to be a 2. Great talent but you have to surround him with good pieces. And Jans did not
Just like we weren't the team that beat Memphis by like 40 at memphis last year early, we aren't this bad either. I think we will be a bubble team by the end of the season. I have confidence in JansQuote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
Our pg, who may or may not be good, didn't play tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
I do think the season is largely dependent on Epps.
He avg'd 9.5 at Illinois as a freshman. Put up 18 as a sophomore at Georgetown, but that dropped to 13 last year. We need him around 12 this season
Yea and thats not a good sign, Jans seems to lose a player early every year. Im not saying Epps is gone but its odd that he didn't playQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I would not put your hopes in Epps. He isnt that good. Have to look past just the stat linesQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Other than Hubbard we dont have a guy you can put the ball in his hands and tell him to go get a bucket. I was hoping Mcghee could be that for us
My son and I got to go to the UNA game with our friend. I knew when Jones Jr. came out as a starter that this team was in trouble. He is an energy and maybe even a sixth or seventh guy off the bench. He is by no means a SEC starter. We basically have Hubbard who can't help his height and is a liability on defense, and no established players who came back. This is Hubbard and the portal. Maybe Jans can make it work. It's just the second game but 25 or so turnovers is really concerning. Does anyone know why Epps didn't play?
It?s season 4 for Jans and we?ve been a bubble team basically every year. I get it can be worse (I was a student during the Rick Ray years) but it?s frustrating to be in year 4 and feel like the needle isn?t continue to move forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Chris Jans = Dan Mullen. Brought us out of being a SEC bottom dweller but couldn?t move past middle of the pack.
Even if he plays and drops 15, we still lose by a lot. And maybe his point play helps with the turnovers but we still lose. Just have to scrub this one and hope this overall performance is a one off and we have a lot more to show. What's concerning is we saw some of the same issues from the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
We aren't gonna be Iowa st good even if Epps turns out to be good. That's a good team. They'll be a 5-seed or better.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Jans has had us in the tourney every season here. I would absolutely love to be better than that, but it's probably not realistic in our conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
OK but don't think it's too much to want a five seed from Jans in Year 4 of his tenure.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He only played 16 mins the other night despite starting. Him starting shows he isn't in the dog house. I think he's just banged up. Hopefully he's back SaturdayQuote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
Of course I do. I just don't think we fund our program enough to be upper echelon of the sec.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Clary started tooQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
People! People! Baseball starts in February.
If you haven?t figured out by now that is our only hope for a successful program in the SEC, I just don?t know what to tell you.
All you baseball haters need to get on board the train before it leaves the station!
Just to warn you though. Not only does State play in the toughest conference in football and basketball, our teams also play in the toughest conference in Baseball where ?IT JUST MEANS MORE!?
So when we start 2-7 in SEC games, don?t freak out. State will find a way to finish 14-16 and make a Regional!
Hell State!
Go Bulldogs!
Yea!!
Especially since we made a commitment to Jans in NIL that has put us in the top half of the conferenceQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Totally wrong on that one. He has plenty of NIL money availableQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
My goals for our programs are the following...
Football 6-8 wins
MBK tourney team, but need a win in NCAA soon.
Baseball CWS
We only fund baseball at a level to really compete in the sec