Nobody on this board knows if it's happening or not. Everyone is guessing.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
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Nobody on this board knows if it's happening or not. Everyone is guessing.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
I'm with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
People who would know are pretty adamant that Butch ain't happening. Steve is BFF's with Cohen, so he probably has a pretty good source on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
And Cal Poly steals a bid too. Although I would still personally find them a spot if I were on the committee, it seems unlikely that they'll be in now with 2 spots evaporating today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Get O'Connor to Starkville ASAP!
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Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
It's not getting past these three. Salmon's future depends on this hire and he knows it. If he wants to get a bigger job, he will have to knock it out of the park with this hire.
BOC
Bakich
Wasikowski
Butch would be an underwhelming hire
I have only one time had inside knowledge of a coaching hire. A long time ago! When internet was in its very early stages.
Story: I had a good friend that played football at Georgia tech. He became a very big booster at Ga.Tech. He was very close friends with the then head coach Bill Curry. For several years he would invite me and wife to Atlanta for Ga.Tech vs Georgia football game. He sideline passes for he and I. One year the game was being played in Atlanta. Friend told me to ride with him that he wanted to go to coach Curry’s house the day before the game to deliver his Christmas present to Coach Curry. We arrive at coach Curry’s house were greeted by coach Curry and asked to come in. Coach Curry told friend and me to promise not say a word but that he had just accepted an offer to become head coach at the University of Alabama. This ended up being approximately two weeks before it was publicly announced. It was very hard for me to keep the secret but I did.
So I assume most coaching hires are usually done way in advance of public announcements. Therefore I would believe that who ever our new baseball coach is either already decided or very close to being a done deal.
Selmon is doing the work and now it's a waiting game simply for timings sake. This is how a real coaching search should be coordinated.
Take it FWIW, but the latest report from Rosey is not great. Sounds like UVA is going to do everything they can to keep O’Conner. I had always kind of had doubts that we would get him, and had expressed those. I had grown a little more optimistic in the last 48-72 hours that we would pull it off. And look, we may still be able to pull it off, but I would say the chances are not as good as most hope.
I have said from the jump that something just felt like Erik Bakich would be the hire when it is all said and done and I do believe that is where we turn once the O’Conner courtship has officially ended.
Feels like it'll be Tom Walter or Dan Fitzgerald which would be solid hires but disappointing
Hopefully we get good news in an hour and can start finalizing with him directly, rather than Virginia getting another week to reel him back in.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Walter would be more disappointing than Fitzgerald. I think people could get behind Fitzgerald. Walter, without Muscara, would probably be one of the more underwhelming hires we could make. And Muscara will get that Wake job the second Walter leaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
As of yesterday, I will be surprised if you are not pleased.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
SR may be right or he may not. I'm sure Virgina doesn't want to see BOC walk away, we shall see very soon IF the damage can be fixed at Virgina or has it gone too far. Anything can happen in today's world. SR knows about as much as many of us, LOL!
I'm hoping for BOC but there a few others that I would love to get also. Btw, anyone on the so-called list is better than the Bucket Coach we had, what a shame as his history came back to cost him a gifted job. Better days ahead.
I am sure that Virginia feels optimistic about O’Connor and I am also pretty sure that we were optimistic on keeping Dan Mullen until we wasn’t. I would like BOC but I also thought that Fitzgerald is type of that we would hire.
Steve at least is getting information from the admin, not for the HC, but to navigate the audience. If he is preparing the masses, it says something. Or information to help with distractions for the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Steve's statement doesn't really mean anything. He's "right" either way.
O'Connor stays at Virginia - no search - Steve was right!
O'Connor leaves Virginia - they promote their associate head coach who's been there for 20 years - Steve was right!
I really don?t listen to Steve. Maybe he knows but he always wiggles out if he is wrong.
I think Virginia has to let the players what is going on this week. With school out players going home need to know or want to know what there options are for summer ball and of course portal options.
If BOC stays it will be known shortly now.
This. May not come from our administration but I expect the writing to be on the wall one way or another from Virginia?s camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I can't see or think Virgina will drag this out very long.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
I mean Virginia isn't going to tell Steve "Yeah 17 O'Connor he's yours. We don't care."
He is literally their best baseball coach ever. They have to make it look like they are at least trying to keep him. This would be like us if LSU wanted Polk to replace Bertman back in the day and Polk wanted to leave because of the scholarship situation being better there at the time with TOPS. We would absolutely look like we would be doing everything we could to keep our best coach in school history. Even if we wouldn't or couldn't.
I think the deadline is July for baseball as far as entering the portal. Even if they changed it or I'm just wrong the NCAA has been lenient towards players transferring out when there is a head coaching change.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
And as far as summer ball that cake is baked for the players no matter what.
Ehh maybe. I mean TCU people were saying that exact thing with Schloss. I think UVA is going to put a very attractive package together for O’Conner. There is also the A&M piece to this thing. If/When they move off Early, O’Conner will be a priority candidate there as well so his agent will probably advise him to see what happens with that situation as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I am betting TAM doesn't fire their coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I'm sure players are hearing offers from other baseball programs regardless of the time frame for NIL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
They have been for quite some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/oth...d=BingNewsSerpQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
And I know it's Kendall Rogers but I believe he went to A&M. So he has a little more invested interest than usual.
A&M really wanted O'Connor last year but one (or both?) sides blinked at the last minute. If they know he's looking to move this year and talking to us, of course they're going to try to get him out from under us.
That's why we need to move quickly and announce it ASAP.
Apparently, the A&M administration and booster are split about firing their coach and that’s coming from their 247. They are more concerned about the Texas A&M and ND football game more than baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Kendall has a ton of connections and I would imagine he is getting his news from Liucci so it is as good as getting it from the decision makers at A&MQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Was Schlossnagle looking around before we fired Cann? I can't remember. O'Connor it's distinctly different IMO because I think he was going to take the A&M job and they went with Earley and Virginia didn't come through with what they promised.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
The rumors I've heard are they are going to fire him.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Mine aren't as good as far as sources go but I can't really remember anyone saying that Earley was coming back.
I think we might have to worry more about South Carolina for O'Connor honestly. It's obvious that they are trying to find a reason to fire Manieri. I read that hit piece that their 247 put out and damn...Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Well, that ain?t good for our search. Our monetary commitment means nothing until A&M gets their guy if we are after any of the same coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Nah, his buyout is big and they put more into women's basketball. They don't worry me at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
A&M has no reason to wait to fire their coach. If it's going to happen, it's by tomorrow.
Skylar Meade will be the hire there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
You mean no Lemon to SC?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Wonder what happens in Mizzou?Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Since I lived in St Louis, I know they don't give a damn. But the Mizzou coach gets St Louis metro, Kansas City metro, and Springfield-Branson as his turf. Plus you can benefit from the Wichita State implosion and snag Kansas. You can also offer SEC ball to the Chicago kids. I hope this giant never awakens. St Louis suburbs have many Madison Centrals ... Marquette, Parkway, and Lafayette. And they have multiple JPs with even richer dads like Chaminde, CBC, De Smet etc.
Dan Fitzgerald would be dangerous in CoMo. Quietly build a program with no pressure. In Mizzou, Lemons would just be fired again, no danger. He would take Cheese and Fox with him.