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true. as bad as i hate to say it
This is as close to the truth as y'all are going to see in public. These are some entitled mother17res that don't care about anything but what they want. They have a candidate they want, they are going to twist things and block things as long as it takes until it goes in their favor and the get their guy. Program be damned as long as the get their win. We Are Misitippy Tate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Madison Co. vs Mississippi State.....Round 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Hopefully we learn from what happened last time.
Or.....and this is controversial....tell them to stop being a bunch of losers who hang out with college kids and their girlfriends. Tell them to cut the GD checks and get the 17 out of the way. That's the way real programs do it. The actual money people do that. It's the 50K millionaires in our fan base who expect to be treated like multi million dollar donors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
It's time to start naming names so we really know who runs our athletic department if it isn't the AD.
Under Cohen, it was the baseball boosters and the Madison Co bros. Selmon has taken it back, but it still having to deal with them because they became so empowered under Cohen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
Someone remind them that being a millionaire is just like being the tallest little person(PC terminology).Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Now deca and higher millionaires that actually donate more....we maybe need treat differently.
WTF Todd? Every 17ng body is glad Lemongead is gone. Parker ain't getting this job unless he wins the CWS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Spoiler: He won't win it
If the new coach turns out bad, they are going to blame it on the Search Committee. A very politically correct good move on their part, don?t you think? I am hoping that they actually greatly consider the search committee prospects.
The Parker Group, the firm we are using, is very reputable. They also don't make the choices. They just go find the candidates and then it's up the AD and whoever is helping on the committee to interview and whatnot. The only thing The Parker Group is really doing is vetting stuff for us. They'll compile an initial list, probably 25-30 candidates and will start vetting them. The people that Selmon has around him helping him with this will then go over those results with The Parker Group and narrow that list down to 8-10 names and that is where the search begins in earnest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScooterDog
Yep, and unfortunately there isn't a slam dunk #1 candidate out there for the job now like there was when Byrne hired Cohen. There are a lot of ways this can go so this could definitely get screwed up by the same folks that screwed us over with the Cohen pick as AD and the Arnett pick to be elevated as football HC. I could absolutely see these same folks pushing for Parker over a 4 game sample size especially if they think they already have a relationship with him that they want to hold on to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
It's not the relationship with Parker they care about. It's the relationship with Jake and Kyle. They see them out and buy them drinks or invite them to the Scoreboard Club for football and let them drink their alcohol so they'll let them in on stuff. Not anything big but just how the players are progressing. Then when they go to these scrimmages and stuff they already have a built in connection with the coaches so they let them around the players.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
This began two months ago. They're well into it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Ideally, announce the coach hire as soon as that coach's season is over. If somehow we are still playing , then announce it anyway. It stops the promotion chatter.
But I am not sure if it helps us on getting to the final candidate with so much interference of alumni.
Bingo. If we announce O'Connor as our new coach the day after the brackets are announced (assuming UVA doesn't make through no fault of O'Connor), then we can all rally around the new coach, and if Parker can make noise in the postseason, cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Which is what we should've done in 18 and Schloss would've been our coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Hopefully there are people left in the AD who remember that and will make sure we don't repeat that mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I hope there's no one remaining in the athletic dept from that time. That AD staff is the reason we're in all these athletic messes to begin with from meddling boosters, behind in NIL, no consistent messaging, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Anyone worrying about certain boosters are worrying about absolutely nothing. It's all silly talk and pointless. This hire won't be a current staffer short of a CWS championship and I'm not sure that will even matter if certain coaches want this job
You owe it to the players, parents, ticket holders, SEC good faith, the MSU brand, and Elite Dawgs to fight for the season. Tanking seasons or the last 60 games is something that people hate about MLB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Parker has a little streak going, yeah he's beaten nobody big, but this spark is valuable for the MSU brand. The reason players like Jake Mangum played 4 years and donated his scholarship is because the season matters. Winning the OM series matters.
https://augustafreepress.com/news/ru...brian-oconnor/
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The talk around the athletics department is that there is legitimate reason for concern that O’Connor might be willing to listen to the people down in Starkville.
Word has been circulating since the fall that O’Connor, who is in his 22nd season at Virginia, is frustrated with a lack of commitment from UVA Athletics to use money from the $20.5 million that the House settlement will authorize to go toward compensation for his ballplayers.
I’ve not seen anything formal on this, but the word circulating behind the scenes is that UVA Athletics is planning to use 95 percent of the total that it can dole out under House to football and men’s basketball, with the other varsity sports getting crumbs.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...seball-top-25/
Article on Wes Johnson and what he's done to elevate Georgia baseball over his two seasons.
If we hire pick Justin Parker, I will take my fandom somewhere else.
This seems like a warning shot from O'Conner to Virginia. Give baseball money or I'm gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
We'll see whose bluff gets called here.
The agent commissioned this article for Fund Raising. Feels like O'Conner is using MSU like MacDonnell in 2018. "Give me resources or I walk".
Someone remind me the last time a coach walked for this reason. He could have left for the mother-lodes of NIL in Austin or College Station just last year.
Could he? It seemed like A&M hired Early because the players threatened to leave if he wasn't hired. Would be very surprised if that happens at MSU. Otherwise O'Conner would be at A&M now.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Since you mentioned it Polk left Georgia Southern because of a lack of commitment. Now he was an assistant at Miami in the fall but became our coach that fall after Bragan left.
Sure it's happened other times too.
The fact that O'Connor was mentioned so quickly by Kendall and other prominent members of the baseball media should be a red flag that this is for fund raising. I can't believe so many of our fans still buy in to this repetitive process that is so glaringly apparent.
He's definitely calling Virginia's bluff. We'll see if they blink.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
That said, this search is just beginning. It may not be O'Conner. If you asked me for a guess my guess is it won't be him.
At the same time I could see a situation where Virginia says we're focusing on football, basketball and lacrosse which I think is pretty big there- similar to baseball at MSU. And if O'Conner doesn't have resources there anymore he knows that their program is done and he is done. If that happens I could totally see him coming to MSU where he has more resources and commitment.
We're just in the midst of things happening and it's not going to be settled until the CWS IMO.
Comon man, GSU resources in the 1970s would be a new net for the batting cage and a new washing machine for home games. MSU probably matched the Net, had multiple hand-me-down washing machines from Football, and gave Polk his own personal typewriter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Today, UVA is being pressed for multiple Millions for NIL. UVA business and Law School alumni will raise the money. Now that it's do-or-die, they'll pay up.
I dont see Virginia abandoning their baseball program either.
My 1st instinct is we are getting blue-balled again like we did with Schloss
We'll see because the reality is so far Virginia has already made it clear to O'Conner that they prioritize lacrosse over baseball and he has been open to leaving after years of loyalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
If he comes to MSU he isn't going to have to compete for money or support.
I could definitely see the appeal of coming here from his standpoint.
Have to think that is the case here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They already have, money promised to baseball went to damn Lacrosse. Virginia is woke as hell & pushing money to women's stuff too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I'd say we've got a legit shot there but with Wes possibly showing interest too (not really sold we can do that), I'd take either. I'm not a fan of the other options as far as the HC guys go. Fitzgerald is mid at best and Walter looks washed. Bakich doesn't look like a real option.
It may happen but I doubt either ends up in StarkVegas. I expect our 7th choice to get the job just like last time.
We just turned away our MLB Dawgs and said we gonna go it alone. Ok- u just turned down millions. Interesting strategy Cotten
I don't think so. We could get Fitzgerald tomorrow and Walter wouldn't be that hard to pull either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
So the access boys won out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Nope, All this stuff was fabricated BSQuote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
Yes- we shut the door on a group of MLB Dawgs that wanted to set up structure and infuse about 5MM dollars into the program. We have chosen to go another route. Good luckQuote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
Yea, makes sense. Gotro and Cheese have been here for the full 7 years of Lemonis and Gotro before that. Parker is the new kid on the block. The question would be, if Parker got the job, would either of those guys be retained?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If that?s truly the case then we are clueless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Who do I switch my baseball fandom to?
I like Clemson colors. Bama, LSU, Tenn?.. who is serious?