Heefner is basically a pastor as HC and that's not happening at most schools especially considering the liberalism that has infiltrated even conservative southern schools. He is going to finish his career where he is.
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Heefner is basically a pastor as HC and that's not happening at most schools especially considering the liberalism that has infiltrated even conservative southern schools. He is going to finish his career where he is.
I do not have any preconceived notions on him other than what has been told to me from people out in Dallas and people who went to DBU. His stances are extremely hardline and it works because of the hardline rules that DBU has.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
It has nothing to do with infiltrated "liberalism", lol. And I can assure you he would detest your (and all of ours') affinity for tits, beer, bourbon, and BJs....so that's RICH coming from you, of all people, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
It's definitely about him being pastor as HC. Brother Hugh talked the talk, but obviously was using that ruse for image and recruiting purposes. This guy is not that.
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I read it, and I'm curious how you think it diffuses his concerns.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
I really hope state doesn?t poach him
DBU is my sons number 1 choice and has been for a long while
So they think, lol. Obviously valid among alumni and admin, but I'd bet money those kids are just as (if not more) rebellious as the average State kid...Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Well how I read it was - yes he?s a Christian and uses his platform for Christ however he doesn?t do it in a way that is fire and brim stoneQuote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Speak truth
Speak wisdom
Speak love
Speak life
And if that brings someone to Christ that?s bigger than anything on the field
Oh and while we?re at we?ll play quality baseball and crush
His baseball reputation speaks for itself and if you think his values wouldn?t play well in MS/AL/LA - well that speaks more about society than it does him
All that is fine and good. And I'm glad that you like and respect him for those qualities. Seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
That being said, and no disrespect to him, I want a HC that prioritizes winning over proselytizing. Our next HC's only job is to win baseball games for MSU. Period.
As others have said, he's at the perfect place for his priorities and skills.
Holy Shit, this thread is going off the tracks.
I would love it if he was our coach and I would hire him in a heartbeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
I have no problem with Heefner's Christian approach, but he's required Bible study etc and that's cost him opportunities. Good for him he doesn't care and continues to do his thing. I just can't see a P4 program taking that risk from a lawsuit standpoint. We could do worse than him without a doubt. If we hired him, I'd be fine with it. I just don't think he falls into the realistic category.
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I hear that's how Tony V built Tennessee into a monster***Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I know and agree with you that at the end of the day in big boy sports winning is numero 1Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I just happen to think it could be both and done on the biggest stage
I just happen to view how he does things similar to what Saban talked about
There is a standard set by the coach
They practice and prepare to that standard
If all the guys buy in and do that,l and then play to that standard they have success - those that don?t weed themselves out
Tony V is a relentless recruiter who is married to baseball and is obsessed with winning. He's the Nick Saban of college baseball. Elander could be the Kirby Smart or he could be the Jeremy Pruitt.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Any way he?s not coming here - Bert has spoken
And thats fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
Here's my opinion:
Unrealistic:
Do I need to include Vitello? LOL obviously
Johnson- No interest/cost
Ming- Cost
Bakich- Cost
Heefner- Covered already
Realistic:
Pollard (maybe)
Wasikowski
Elander
Going to be more names
I would be pretty disappointed if it was Wasikowski. Fit is important. Pollard isn't realistic. So that leaves Elander.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
We should just go try to rehire Cohen again. He sucks as an AD anyway and was much better as a baseball coach.
On one condition, he becomes 2008-2013 John Cohen again. Complete asshole to players and fans alike and just grinds 24/7/365.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Going to be a couple more top assistant names and HC names. I'll go ahead and say I don't believe Coggin, Burroughs, Godwin(but watch this one), Ostrander will be on the list since they come up a lot.
I think we've got our shit in order and will make a great hire. Watch list O'Connor, maybe Godwin but that's big maybe with other rumors there. Going to be some big names but will we get them/will they come?
Gotta feel like there were some talks before making the move today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I don't think we fire someone midseason if we haven'tQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
This is 100% Kendall Rogers trying to get him a raise and drive up clicks, but he says Brian O'Conner is a possibility. Said he almost left for A&M last year.
Again, it won't happen. But... could you imagine??
He and Godwin are in the same boat IMO- Innuendo and wishful thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
The fact that he is only 53 is shocking. But you are right, Kendall Rodgers is going to do what he usually does in these searches, get coaches raises because he spouts exactly what these agents tell him to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
I've already penciled in Godwin at Ole Miss when Bianco retiresQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Me too and that's real soonQuote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
It's not BS on O'Conner. I mentioned him on this board a couple of months ago. He's not happy with the UVA NIL situation. They are having a rough year this year. He was going to take the Ole Miss job if Bianco was fired. The funny thing is, I'm not sure if I even want him.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
I think he's great, but also can't win the big oneQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
He probably thinks he can win the big one at MSU though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Probably so, & he might. But his assistant is a big part of it and he's probably getting that job if O'Connor leavesQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
It's what we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
More like 50-60%Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Selmon has been having conversations since before this season began. He is no idiot. And Cohen better never get. Job here again in any capacity. He would suck as a coach in the portal era.
O'Conner? He literally has the ACC's only NC since the 1950's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Dan Fitzgerald is a very interesting name.
Lol, yep! You?re on a roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg