He's more comfortable with football? He hired a shitty football coach. So just fire Selmon too. Wreck his resume like he messed up MSU. I don't want this dude picking the next baseball coach anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
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He's more comfortable with football? He hired a shitty football coach. So just fire Selmon too. Wreck his resume like he messed up MSU. I don't want this dude picking the next baseball coach anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
I'd be ok with Coggin(s) or Elander(s). Rather have Wes Johnson or Rob Vaughn though.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
We could not pay more in a bidding war. NIL era Bama a better job especially from a Coaches point of view. Just is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I need to be convinced that Coggin shouldn?t get a very hard look and be in the first small group of candidates. Kentucky is back in the shitter and Ga is in the top 5 and raking. He gets high praise from Rooker and Lowe, as well as others.
I could not disagree more that Bama baseball is a better job than State.
How?
That is insane to me.
You guys are totally discounting fan support and field, which you shouldn?t.
I hope Selman doesn?t think like this, because it is wrong.
Money is one thing. Money ain?t everything.
I?d take that clown (2017 version) over what we have now - he could at least identify SEC talentQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
No it?s not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
Unless you like playing on front of 5 k most days.
Maybe not now but the people in Alabama are starting to wake up to what they could have and they have the resources to make it happenQuote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
And the field to HS players and portal players matters much less today - it?s about $ and who can provide me the best opportunity to get to the next levelQuote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
What good does the field and fan experience provide if the coaches don?t help me get to the next phase of my career?
According to what?Quote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
All they care about is football and now basketball.
According to the HS coaches I?m around and know throughout the stateQuote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
I don?t think what he said is necessarily a bad thing. All good leaders know where their expertise lies and where to bring in outside help. All of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
My biggest gripe every single coaching search is reading about how we have boosters and good ole boys and everyone in the AD ear. If Selmon ends up saying Baseball isn?t my expertise and I am doing a full professional national search with outside help and they all report up to me with facts and recommendations then I am ecstatic. That is the way coaching searches should be run.
There won?t be 15k people at a. BAMA baseball game in o ur lifetime .
This is nonsensical.
How do I do a HUGE eye roll emoji?Quote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
We should compare MLB draft picks then.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
Let me know what you find.
I?d call the Bama coach and give him one offer.
If he said no, I?d tell him have fun playing in front of 4-5k people every day. Enjoy it.
When he?s ready for the big time, call us.
You can pay all the players you wants there will still be 5k in the stands ( see Tennessee).
Bottom line
1- we had the most players drafted last year of any school (I think. Or were one of the top)
2- we have the best stadium
3- we have the most fans
4- we are competitive NIL
5- have the best or one of best traditions
If Lemojis can?t sell that and make us champions them GTFO.
It's crazy to me that the same people who shit on the number of fans at a baseball game also bitch about the lack of fans at football games. If there is one thing msu supports 100%, it's baseball. And we shouldn't be ashamed of it. I don't even care that way feed the other team. We've created an environment at baseball games that others should envy.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
To add?
If we wanted the little guy at Georgia I?d tell him the same thing.
They average 3k fans.
Pathetic.
They are not serious about baseball.
If he thinks UGA is a better job, he?s delusional.
It?s the same president that was so lazy he didnt have an AD to hire a coach when Leach passed. The rest is shit historyQuote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
There is a difference between "could" and "would".Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
Coggin would probably be a better fit for MSU than Elander. He understands MSU baseball and the culture here.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlSwearengen
I would still prefer someone with experience like Vaughn. Coggin should get a head coaching job somewhere soon.
I would peg Will Coggin a little higher on your list at this point. I think he'll be near the top of the list, if not in the top 2, when the move is made. I don't get the feeling Selmon will be looking West Coast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Realistically who would you think will be the top 2-3. Not necessarily who you would prefer but who the administration would likely put in the top 3 choices. Other than Coggin.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
REALISTICALLY IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:Quote:
Originally Posted by State82
1. Skylar Meade-Troy
2. Jordan Bischel-Cincinnati
3. Chris Pollard-Duke
4. Will Coggin-UGA Hitting Coach
5. Josh Elander-Tennessee Hitting Coach
Again, that's realistically and I just listed the HCs first. I think Coggin is above at least one of them. HCs just don't move around. You probably could add Justin Haire to the list because I'm sure he'll get his name involved. I don't think we're looking west coast and it will take really good offers to pull a sitting P4 HC like Rob Vaughn, Eric Bakich, etc. Also I will just prepare everyone, Cliff Godwin is going to get his name in the mix and then turn us down. It's nothing more than him doing that. When he gets the OM job, he wants it to look like he turned State down multiple times to wait for the OM job to open.
So what? Thats more about State fans. Players now are about NIL, development, and location. Guys today would rather live in Tuscaloosa and play in front of 4K than live in Sville and play in front of 12K. Players are taking less NIL money to go to other schools because they dont want to live in Sville. The next coach will have to fight that fight alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
Too many of our fans still dont understand NIL in 2022 changed everything for Miss State and most of it for the worse.
without diving deep into any of the candidates (because i don't have time or patience), on the surface, Coggin has flashing lights above his name. Our offense was really good when he was here. Kentucky's offense and recruiting was good when he was there. Now, Georgia's lineup and offense is top tier in their second season. If he is the recruiter that it appears that he is and can teach hitting the way it appears he can, he is hard to pass up in my book.
Again, this is what things look like from way above and some that know alot more than me might have good information and insight that I don't.
Also, I'm past holding out for a sitting head coach. These young guys are where it is at as long as they are mature enough.
Probably an accurate list. The interesting thing about Skylar Meade is that he was a player for McDonnell and Lemonis at Louisville. His coaching style seems to be a bit different though. He's a pitching coach by trade, and he's very involved with his pitchers. From a hitting standpoint, Troy has taken an aggressive and power-oriented approach that is complemented by speed and situational adaptability.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Do you have actual proof of this happening multiple times or is this just an assumption? (not saying you?re wrong, genuinely asking). From an NIL and development standpoint, we should be fairly competitive (with the right coach in place).Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Then to me it seems its a matter of would you rather be a Jake Mangum and be the king of Starkville for 4 years or just another athlete in Tuscaloosa but you have more bars to go to
I don?t misunderstand NIL because I disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I?ll agree to disagree.
So....is NW Arkansas and Eastern TN just a college baseball hotbed of HS talent? ***Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Ole Miss has a shortstop from NY . I guess home is where the heart is. ***
What are current college baseball recruiting rankings?
Where Do we rank?
I honestly have no clue.
Class of 2025 according to Perfect Game is 5th in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
The hell u sayQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Our HS recruiting is top notch right now. I just do not trust Lemonis to coach them up.
Tuscaloosa is a shit hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They seemingly must all live in the surrounding counties of Starkville ***Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
We also sent more players to the draft than anyone.
So ?
1) we are one of the top 5 recruiters on the country (this is also while we are sucking)
2) we sent more players to the draft last year than anyone.
Yet, nobody wants to come here because we don?t pay enough. The facts say otherwise.
What am I misunderstanding?
As is Baton RougeQuote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
Some of you refuse to look thru the eyes of a 20 year old. Of course how you see things at 40/50/60 is different