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DeBore is Les MilesQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Johnson85, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. However, the federal government doesn't favor the single left-wing nut job asking for crazy gender policies. A local California school board may. A local county government may. But the federal government does not. What the federal government favors is the large corporations that have paved the way for today's politicians to remain in power. The healthcare, pharmaceutical, firearms, tobacco and alcohol lobbyists dictate policy in this country. They control the representatives we elected to represent us. That's the problem. All this "liter box in the bathroom" bullshit is a distraction to keep all of you focused on the wrong things. They take one instance of insanity and spew it all over the social media and get people in Mississippi worked up about some lunatic BS happening in San Francisco. Who cares!?!?!
The 24-hour news cycle doesn't report the news. They decide the news.
When the grand old party gave up on states rights after winning the White House, House, and Senate during W's term and ballooned the federal government's spending to levels that had never been seen before (yes, you read that correctly... GOP outspent the Dem who actually balanced the budget), the political landscape was set. Big corporations took over the Fed. It hasn't changed since.
Blaming the strange lady-man/man-lady political distraction for America's current problems is like blaming a fart for climate change.
This is dumb. Nobody is complaining about transgenders existing. They want their daughters and wives to be able to have bathrooms and dressing rooms to themselves and they want their daughters to be able to play women's sports without having to complete against boys/men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
The sex abuse certainly was not limited to the catholic church, which probably has a lower rate of sexual abuse per capita than public school employees. That said, much of the catholic sex abuse scandals did involve homosexual priests and post pubescent boys. People like to just avoid the question of whether an abuser was homosexual, I assume because they are concerned the rates of offense would not be the same for straight people and homosexual people or people that are transgendered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
This is also dumb. Even relatively ridiculous rape claims get treated as credible. Obviously there was a lot of identity politics going on, but the Duke Lacrosse Case for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
3 out of our last 5 presidents were accused of sexual assault that involved penetration or rape. I would say one of those was a very credible accusation and involved somebody that had to give up their law license for perjury, so the he said she said doesn't exactly cut in his favor. Biden and Trump may lie a lot, but that doesn't exactly mean they're rapists. Trump's accuser is not particularly credible. I don't know enough about Biden's. That's about all you can go off of though when you are talking about a he said/she said accusation from decades earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
An impressive amount of actual errors here. He didn't sue Carroll. She sued him. The jury found that he was not liable for rape. That's not a criminal trial where maybe they thought he raped her but couldn't get over the high burden of proof. They found by a preponderance of the evidence that he did not rape her. But regardless, that wouldn't prove or disprove the claim. In a he said she said account from 30 years prior, a majority vote by a civil jury just doesn't tell you much about what actually happened. It tells you some combination of how much they liked or disliked the accuser and defendant and how credible or not they found the accuser and defendant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
So glad you have figured out what Christianity dictates people should vote for. You should definitely let all the christian religious leaders know so they can tell their congregants how to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
The Biden administration claimed that Title IX, which was supposedly enacted to ensure educational opportunities were not denied to women, prohibited schools receiving federal funding from having female only bathrooms, locker rooms, dorms, or sports. That's a massive deal that affects basically everybody with a female relative or friend that attends or works at an educational institution subject to Title IX (which is the vast majority of them)Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
One, it's not a political distraction to the women affected. If you give me the choice between my daughter being able to have a girls only bathroom at school or my preferred tax policy, I'm going to go with what is better for my daughter. Two, if sane people can't win on the really obvious issue of "Should the federal government allow single sex bathrooms and female only sports", then there's no need for a distraction. The government can do whatever they want regardless. It's not like people are going to rebel over tax policy but not over their wives and daughters being able to have a bathroom to themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
All this bathroom hyperbole is why my wife has this sign at her business:
https://i.etsystatic.com/33287822/r/...32252_4qip.jpg
Hey, don't break my concentration... I'm busy marinating your deer meat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
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Nope I am sure not advocating we accept ISIS. And yes, Muslims (not ISIS) accepting or not accepting of Average Joe Christian really has nothing to do whether that Christian should or shouldn't be accepting to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
Exactly. Just wash your hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I wouldn't say they are the biggest threat to democracy. I would say that men and definitely including white men have issues and we shouldn't hide from them. This entire post started because of the comments of a CEO or CFO of Allstate. When I heard their address before the delayed Sugar Bowl, it was actually sobering that I was hearing something that the country needed to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
The threat to democracy, well that is definitely a political discussion that I will not enter on this site. As it has nothing to do with Sports or Mississippi State and I don't feel like getting shadow banned for a month like last year during the baseball run.
If I get what I deserve, woe is me.
If the Christ of the Bible, keeps his promises (there lies my faith), PRAISE GOD!!
(1) the decision allowed states and individual school districts to implement those policies, which as I noted in my post, we're made by some local authorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
(2) I'm still not sure how a California school district affects people in Mississippi? I'm pretty sure school bathrooms are still labeled boy/girl in Georgia.
What happened to the old state's rights conservatives? Now we're trying to implement social laws and regulations in other states? Your way is your way. And your way is fine. But your way doesn't have to be everybody's way. Isn't that what we're fighting for? Individual liberty? Why should someone in Mississippi be able to tell someone in California how to label their bathrooms?
That in part is why so many are leaving the culture of Cali for a more normal setting to live, work, worship and raise kids.
As would I. That's not the community I'd raise my kids in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
On October 7th, 2022 - BUD closed at $44.68Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
On May 17th, 2024 - BUD closed at $67.42
Guess they should go back to doing what they did between then to pump up the price by your less-than-novice logic.
Top Minds of EliteDawgs Stock Trading going on for sure.
I made myself wealthy by other means and I entertain myself watching others tell others how to supposedly be smart.
California population 2006 - 36,021,202Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
California population 2015 - 38,904,296
California population 2024 - 39,198,693
Mississippi population 2006 - 2,904,978
Mississippi population 2015 - 2,990,231
Mississippi population 2024 - 2,943,045
Cali has gained a Mississippi worth of population in the timeframe that Mississippi has gained 40k people.
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-m...nia/population
Alot of their population growth is illegals. Millions have poured into the state. Meanwhile, the taxpayers and corporations are leavingQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
and now this latest fire just shines a light on their incompetence leading their people. Gonna see more people move away and it has probably ended Pretty Boy's presidential aspirations. What gross mismanagement resulting in millions of loss plus a few lives
Tater knows. It's all part of his scheme on ED.
Where are these "illegals" from? Are they in the room with us right now? How did Cali get a Mississippi's worth of "illegals"? It couldn't have been Mexico:Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Mexico Population 2006 - 106,886,790
Mexico Population 2015 - 120,149,897
Mexico Population 2024 - 129,388,467
And Cali is losing business?
Cali GDP 2006 - $1.81 Trillion
Cali GDP 2015 - $2.47 Trillion
Cali GDP 2024 - $4.08 Trillion
Mississippi GDP 2006 - $0.088 Trillion
Mississippi GDP 2015 - $0.105 Trillion
Mississippi GDP 2024 - $0.139 Trillion
Almost like getting your news from Enron Musk and "No one should take us Foxing seriously" News isn't quite matching reality.
Would you like to try again?
Who pays for the illegals housing, cell phones, clothing and daily food as they simply stay in the country and breath the air?
Banging his best friend's wife will always prevent Newsome from being President. His only hope is to be the VP after 4 years of republicans ****ing things up and then president dies. He has 0 path to the presidency otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
California has rebounded from fires and will again. Meanwhile should we go look at how shitty Katrina was handled or is that too easy of a dunk? I'll pass it up because you might just quit with those stats.
Newsflash - facts don't care about your feelings. California and New York subsidize states like Mississippi. It's just how our economy works. Big cities and tech hubs make cash. If California had an earthquake sending it into the water, the US economy would crumble. If Mississippi / Louisiana / Alabama all flooded, the NFL would move the Super Bowl to Jerryworld, relocate the Saints to St. Louis, and life would chug right along.
California pays for "Legals" safety, access to daily food and clothing, and allowing Mississippi to breathe free. Glass houses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
nor sure about the enron musk thing you say but i betcha he gone work some federal budgets over and show what % of fed workers aren't needed. No telling what the folks who disagree will say then. Probably be like a ceo telling folks to be less divisive after a terrorist attack. will enron musk be involved in the prosecution of the jan6 committee?
taxesQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
The west coast is prone to drought, wildfire, and earthquakes. LA is overpopulated and in the middle of a hornets nest of disasters.
Manhattan is sinking.
Miami floods every king tide.
Villages are moving inland in Alaska.
Memphis and Seattle sit on a massive fault line with half of downtown Memphis is a "liquefaction" zone.
New Orleans sits below sea level on the Gulf of Ameri... Mexico.
Seattle sits on a long overdue fault and has a significant tsunami risk.
This country is very young and some of the areas we built massive infrastructure in are incredibly disaster prone.
I wouldn't defend Enron Musk on this specific thread. The twitter stock is such an easy point to make. I used to think he was smart until he started talking openly about programming. I know programming. He's an idiot with that. I question if he's ever been actually smart at rocket science or electric cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
Then it is beneficial for you to enjoy living in a free country. We are all entitled to our own opinions. Sound like you need to be introduced to Mr Trump because he is an outside the box thinker. He seems pretty good with his starlink technology and even has liberals asking him to provide free service for the fire ravaged areas where they saved a fish.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jp4xqx2z3oQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Here ya go Retarded Warren- from the BBC (I can get other outlets as well)
Since January 2021, when Joe Biden came to office, there have been more than 10 million encounters - about 8 million came over the southwest land border with Mexico.
Under the Trump administration, there were 2.4 million encounters on this border.
Encounters fell at the start of 2020 as arrivals slowed because of the pandemic.
The number of encounters is not a count of individuals who stay in the US as some migrants will be returned and the same person can be recorded trying to enter multiple times.
These figures don't include people who may have crossed the border undetected.
The US Department of Homeland Security has estimated there were 11 million illegal migrants living in the US as of January 2022.
Ignoring the fact that a lot of illegals are coming from countries further south than Mexico, can you not understand that it would be easily possible for Mexco to provide California with immigrants while also growing their own population? Seriously, hwo did you put up the population of Mexico and think that was a rebuttal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
It's pretty well established that California has had net negative domestic migration for a while but has made up for that with net positive international migration. That includes high skilled foreigners immigrating to silicon valley as well as low skilled illegal immigrants.
Not to mention silicon valley is mostly where their economic growth is coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
The wildifires are pretty different than the rest of those issues. Most of those can't really be addressed without moving. California could mitigate wildfires pretty significantly if they did forest management and if they still allowed things like reservoirs to be built.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
the tree huggers would riot and tie themselves to the forest floor if such a sane idea were put into action. that is why they are so against any water retention plans as well.
I thought this was a sports site. Can any of these tree huggers or millions of illegals play OL, CB or WR and have we identified them?*****
The tree huggers are basically useless to us. We even beat them in one of their main sports, frisbee golf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
The illegals definitely have some potential. Not a good hit rate, but there's enough of them that some of the kids being brought across are definitely going to be contributors.
"These figures don't include people who may have crossed the border undetected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The US Department of Homeland Security has estimated there were 11 million illegal migrants living in the US as of January 2022.
It says about a fifth of them arrived in 2010 or later but the majority arrived before this time, some as early as the 1980s."
Let's just step through this with some amount of thinking. Just some.
11 million Migrants.
1/5 arrived 2010 or later.
2.2 million Migrants arrived 2010 or later.
8.8 million Migrants arrived 1980-2009.
Bill Clinton was the only Democratic President from 1980 to 2009 (other than Obama's first year).
Your choice to continue making a very bad point is to try to argue a majority of them came in during Clinton's 8 years. Not a great argument but you can try to make it.
Now let's also look at the 2.2 million since 2010.
Trump had 2ish Million encounters at the borde in his presidency.
Biden had 10ish Million encounters at the border in his presidency.
Now the logical conclusions to draw here - more migrants tried to cross because of what they "thought" was a weak border under Biden. We can easily agree on that I hope.
Now I don't have the time to research the Obama 8 years with the same source as you've provided, but I'm gonna make a point here that you can't really refute. I'm going to assume Obama had "0" encounters and just failed to protect the border at all.
Assuming that ALL 11 million migrants came in only under democratic presidencies:
Clinton - 1.1 million / year
Obama+Biden - 0.18 million / year
Or if you think Obama was perfect and Trump was perfect
Biden - 0.55 million / year
Also - "An attempt to pass a cross-party bill to tighten border security failed in May 2024, with Harris saying that Trump "tanked it".
Biden issued an executive order the following month to quickly deport migrants at the border.
This means migrants can be sent back without having their asylum claims processed, if the average number of weekly encounters exceeded a certain threshold."
This was a smart political play by Trump and a huge problem with American politics. Similar things happened in 2020 in reverse, but the challenging party has no incentive to allow the incumbent party to pass partisan legislation in an election year. In fact they are better off blocking it. Our government setup is shitty in this regard.
Now to leave you with a thought. I just gave you stats for worst case scenarios for Dems based on your assessments. Do you really believe that a presidency that Quadrupled the number of migrants stopped at the border was worse at border control than? Really? This guy that stopped 10 million has less control of the border than the guy who stopped 2.5 million? Which one of them is preaching about too many government workers and bloat?
Do you get the picture yet?
Let's visit this ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
1. California passed a multi-BILLION dollar bond in 2014 for the purpose of water resevoirs. They have yet to build anything and cannot account for the money.
2. Lousianna - I remember seeing that Mayor on American Greed, for all his corruption. He was the most vocal about how things were handled. And in regard to how Katrina was handled.....again , like California, if you remember, they diverted funds that were intended for levee maintenance and repair and funneled it elsewhere. To say "how it was handled" , yes indeed look at the screw ups prior to it.
3. Western NC - FEMA says no money left to help, and they have been very slow in relief. FEMA directors told workers to ignore areas with Trump signs. Pathetic.
4. TX is where Cali and NY companies are moving to. I wonder why?
5. California population is falling. In the next Electoral voting realignment for states, California would drop and Florida and TX would increase.......unless.....somehow a ton of citizens are legalized or at least counted in the population calcs. There is your answer.
There is a common theme, and I feel like you might be too much on one side to see it.
Calm down francis. I'm talking to people who put up the stock price on X date and Y date and point to that as proof. Sometimes you gotta slow roll dumb people with small statistics to build them up slowly in these convos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Come back in 4 pages or so and they'll maybe be caught up to where you are and then I can address all of you at once. Yea I agree that one statistic isn't great method of arguing, but if I start talking about demographic % statistics, GDP growth % by county, etc - I'm just gonna lose them. Know your audience. This isn't a thread for people with half a functioning brain yet.
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