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I swear Austin Riley has been to the Hunter Hines hitting school lol!
Well so much for this thread and season.
Acuna: out for the year
Strider: out for the year
Murphy: missed 2 months from the first game
Harris: missed 2 months in the middle of the season
Ozzie: going to end up missing 2 months
Minter: out for the year
Riley: out for 6-8 weeks
Fried: has been hurt some
L?pez: elbow inflammation; coming back tomorrow
Can't make this up.
Hopefully the last entry in this thread will be Snit retires, AA fired.
AA has sat on his hands for too long. This trade deadline was a joke. Eflin and Arozerena were rumored targets and moved for next to nothing. All the Crochet talk was a pipe dream but he could have done more than adding Soler. Now we are gonna waste a Cy Young type season for Sale, an MVP type for Ozuna, let Fried walk and still have to fill a bunch of holes in the rotation and OF next season.
And that doesn’t event count the terrible SS position that will need to be addressed
But still with a chance at a NL wild card spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Sorry but I can't blame AA for this. Literally the entire team has been injured at some point minus Matt Olson. Let's not ignore the fact he worked a deal for Chris Sale (the NL CY young front runner) in which the Red Sox are still paying his salary. He's also back next year. If you replace these season ending injuries with just normal injuries that every team has, we're likely even with the Phillies at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
So, fire the guys responsible for the best run since Schurholz was around? Nah. When you lose that list of players to injury, you don't mortgage the farm to take a chance on a Wild Card.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
AA has done a solid job of plugging some holes, hasn't given up anything, and still has a solid chance at the playoffs - missing an a huge amount of talent.
Don't feed him!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Really tough season. I've been frustrated basically the whole season. Even with Riley down, if they can get Lopez, fried, and sale healthy in the playoffs with soler and albies back, they would be a tough out.
Doing the Jays-Braves game on 9/7 with my son Christopher. Then the first playoff race the next day on his birthday at Atlanta Motor Speedway; he'll be 23.
Oh yeah. We did John Waite-Styx-Foreigner at The Wharf this past Saturday. It was FABULOUS.
I guess I'll throw in we went to the Indy500 back in May.
And I just bought him his first race car. It's on the lift in my garage. Shooting for his first race at Five Flags in late September.
Just hanging on to each other in the wake of Carol's passing and making memories while we do.
God is good.
AMEN Brother
Same here. Somehow they've kept plugging away with a pretty much triple aaa+ lineup and some pretty dang good pitching and defense. If they can just get to the tournament, you always have a chance if you got arms and one thing the Braves have going for them right now is arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
PS I love this Grant Holmes kid!
Great post! only 4 starters left from the opening day lineup(including last years mvp), strider out, fried, lopez and minter have missed significant time and yet they're still in the hunt. It's a miracle they're still in the hunt. There's very few teams if any that could still be in the hunt with the amount of talent the braves are missing right now. Credit to the leadership and culture theyve built.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Sure the injury bug is ridiculous this season and it's gotten even worse SINCE the deadline. But AA could have done some things to help the situation, and he didn't. There were outfield pieces available that fit MUCH better than adding another DH and sentimental piece like Soler. He could have added a decent arm like an Eflin, Montas, Fedde, Quantrill and ended the ridiculous Vines/Dodd/Elder rotation of trash that gives away a win every 5th start.
You look at the standings across MLB and NOBODY is running away with a great record this year, so this is actually the season that you could absorb some of these crazy injuries and still be competitive. However, because of AA's ignorance, we are stuck with an outfield consisting of Michael Harris, a DH, a streaky Kelenic and backup sub Mendoza hitters followed by a completely depleted infield.
Braves didn't wanna cross the next threshold of the luxury tax and lose draft position in a season with so many injuries. Getting soler was a pretty salty move while being able to stay under that threshold.
I don't think the braves need any more pitching assuming fried and Lopez stay healthy. And if they don't, we're screwed anyway... none of the guys available at deadline were as good as them.
If we gonna critique who wasn't gotten at the deadline, probably should give AA some credit for guys he did find. Laureano has a 138 wrc+ as a brave, and whit has a 127 wrc+ as a brave. By the way, soler is 169 wrc+ as a brave.
As I said earlier, the name of the game for the braves now is keep the big 3 (sale, fried, and Lopez) healthy. No one wants to face those guys in a 3/5 game series
The only time the Opening Day lineup has played together this season was on opening day. That's insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
It's insane, I've never seen a team bit by the injury bug like this in my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Saw an article today that said 762 games had been missed by injured Braves so far this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Yep. Playing to the terrible postseason format. Get at least a WC, have 3 top starters, and hope the lineup gets hot at the right time.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Braves sweep the Twins.
5 games behind the Phillies with a 4 game series upcoming in Philly.
Take 3 of 4, and this last month is gonna be fun
Bump for getting the Wild Card yesterday!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Loved Lopez coming back on 1 day's rest to help lock it down. BEAT THE PADRES!!
I still have no clue how they made the playoffs. Their injury list would make an impressive MVP or Cy Young shortlist.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
In all my years of follwing baseball I've never seen a team have this many injuries, I doubt there was any other team that could've survived what the Braves did this year and make the playoffs. Credit to their culture that they never panicked or wavered and kept fighting. Probably be a short run in the playoffs but i wouldn't put anything past this group. Would be a heckuva story if they somehow won it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I always criticized Bobby Cox for his decision making. But, the thing that set him above so many others was the culture he created within the organization (along with Shurholtz). That was undeniable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
HOF players would run thru brick walls for the guy. Snit makes a lot of the same type of questionable decisions, but like Bobby, he's built an undeniable culture that wins.
I saw a stat last night - Since Division play began, the Braves have been to the Postseason 26 of 55 seasons. That's second only to the Yankees.
They had made 2 prior to 1991. So between Cox and Snit (and a bit of Fredi) that's 24 postseasons in 33 years.
Another incredible stat - of those 24 postseason, only 3 have been achieved by being a Wild Card. So they aren't getting in by the skin of their teeth.
Yeah, I'd love to have more than 2 World Series titles. But, I grew up with 1970s and 1980s Braves teams. The first team I really remember was the '77 Braves, where my man Gary Mathews and Jeff Burroughs lead us to a 60-101 record. The Braves were so bad Turner fired Dave Bristol and managed a loss himself. We watched a young Dale Murphy, who hit ok, but was a horrible catcher - and thought "this is our next star??". MSU fans this year would have tarred and feathered Murph for his 6 errors in 17 games; .954 fielding %, with 5 passed balls, and 20 SB allowed with only 5 CS. I'll take those 2 WS over that any day!
Snit deserves to be on the short list for manager of the year. We also didn't go out and get anyone big at the deadline either. I haven't kept up with the team like I normally have. I had to double check on our outfield and third base. Who are those guys? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Tonight’s result is because AA has gone cheap on pitching for 2 years straight. Swellenbach is the ONLY reason that he has been bailed out a bit.
They knew going into this season that elder was a bum, Morton was 40, and Sale and Lopez were big gambles. Those 2 paid off big time but a move had to be made when Strider went down and AA decided for the 2nd year in a row to ride trash 5th starters and basically concede a win. Waldrep wasn’t ready, Shawver wasn’t ready, Elder is a bum and they decided to not even give Ian Anderson a shot.
They need to let Fried walk, trade for Sonny Gray and get 2 more middle of the rotation guys as insurance in case Lopez, Sale, or Strider have injury concerns next season.
They scored 0 runs. This offense shouldn't be this bad even without Riley and AcunaQuote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
No team in the history of baseball has ever had to play a doubleheader followed by a playoff game the next day. Let alone fly across country to play that game after playing a doubleheader. Braves had almost no shot today.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Mets won, and let's not pretend this was a new thing. If the Braves allow 3-4 runs, it's an auto lossQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
When the braves give up more than 3 runs this season, they're 11-59.
Right there with ya! We grew up the same way and have almost the same exact thought process! You're a good man, Bruns!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
The Braves have done a poor job this season hitting with runners in scoring position and wasting leadoff extra base hits. I watched Chipper on social media saying he was throwing his flip flops at the tv because of the poor abs with runners on and I was right there with him! The pitching has bee the ride or die this year. If the Braves get a lead or can keep it within 1-2 runs they have a shot but when they get down early the offense just doesn't have the oomph to overcome it.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
ETA too much emphasis on long ball and not on situational hitting. Chipper said it himself AA is only interested in hrs and obp but they have done a poor job situationally. This is not just Braves though it has become an epidemic in the game from mlb on down.
When you are missing Acuna & Riley you are going to struggle like that. Add in the games missed by Ozzie, Olson, Harris, and Murphy and it gets worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I have zero expectation for this team in the post season. They shouldn't even be here - which is the point. Snit deserves a huge amount of credit for creating a culture that can win in spite of all the attrition.
Where have I seen this play before..... maybe in DNF this past spring???Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
100%! When you go down one star player it shortens your lineup, when you go down 2 it REALLY shortens the lineup, and you have Ozzie only able to bat RH(albeit his better side), but he doesn't have a lot of experience seeing pitches from that side.I would love to see them make a run, as it would make a heckuva a great story, but to even make the playoffs was a minor miracle this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Lol, pretty much!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Olson didn't miss games. Everyone (save ozuna) has or was having a down year. That's gotta reflect on someone. Either guys didn't put in the work required this offseason, or the coaches can't adjust at all. At the very least, seitzer should be replaced.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Right about Olson, my mistake. Still, his "down" year was still 29 HR, 98 RBI, and .790 OBPS which is damn good. You just don't get consistency with the lineup in flux all the time the way it was this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And Seitzer is the same guy who in 2023 had a dang Murderers Row performance from the hitters.
I don't like the approach. We're way too all or nothing. I hate we've turned Ozzie's 70 grade hit tool into a guy trying to hit HRs. After AA invested way too much in kelenic, seitzer broke him with the swing change. I just think with the new dead ball, an organizational shift in hitting philosophy is needed. I admit that I could be overreacting, but this season has been brutal; I watched or listened to like 155 of the gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I wasn't all that fond of Kelenic to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It's also a strong statement to say that Seitzer "broke" a guy who is a lifetime .213 hitter.
AA took a flier and it didn't pay off. He's also young, so it could pay off down the road.