Just a reminder to all you guys

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

There?s no more risk with Lebby than hiring a G5 coach.

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We're 1-1 so far when hiring OCs away from a Blueblood. Thing is, Lebby has a much better track record than Morehead did in terms of elite offense and various spots. We see an uptick in NIL, coupled with a good staff around him, hiring Lebby could be pretty great.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

There?s no more risk with Lebby than hiring a G5 coach.

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We saw how Neal Brown did after leaving Troy.

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Originally Posted by mo7888

Who was above him? Elko..Chadwell...Lashlee...and...

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We said from the start we wanted a sitting HC as our next hire. We aren?t making that hire it appears. So draw you?re own conclusions

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Watching OU's first two drives....I am not hating Lebby's O. And it looks like one that offensive skill guys and QB's would LOVE to play in. What am I missing??

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That our school will be known as Mississippi Rape.

Very real worst case scenario:
- 3-9 (1-7) first year, both Toledo and ASU will be loseable games. The cupboard is bare on talent and we fail to refill it quickly.
- 5-7 (1-7) second year, ooc way easier
- 7-5 third year, three straight Egg losses but upward trajectory.
- 5-7 fourth year with no Jackson Arnold, and a scandal breaks. Mississippi Rape becomes our school nickname. The program is tanked and we're where Baylor currently is. A bottom feeder, but worse we knowingly let the wolf into our hen house.

I am on board. Recruiting would see an uptick. Pretty sure we would have one guy come back on board. We need offense.

How does he feel about going 3 and out on our first several drives of every game?

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

We're 1-1 so far when hiring OCs away from a Blueblood. Thing is, Lebby has a much better track record than Morehead did in terms of elite offense and various spots. We see an uptick in NIL, coupled with a good staff around him, hiring Lebby could be pretty great.

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Yeah, it's night and day comparison with Moorhead. Lebby has not only coached in the SEC, he has coached in MS.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Briles is matching Lebby punch for punch right now in this game, with lesser talent. Maybe the other OC should be on our short list too

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I've liked both of these guys for a few years. I can't say I'm sold on either as HC, but I don't hate it even though I prefer experience

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

It's working at UT right now. It's worked at UCF and Ole Miss. It worked at Baylor. We are going to have to hit the portal hard. And QB is key just like any offense. We need a legit dual threat guy.

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All dual threats aren't created equally... I love the type of dual threats I'm watching in this Oklahoma game much more than the typical dual guys we've had (with one notable exception).... These look like Air Raid type systems that evolved with QB's that make plays with their feet as opposed to running QB's that occasionally make throws off of play action....

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Originally Posted by Tater

That our school will be known as Mississippi Rape.

Very real worst case scenario:
- 3-9 (1-7) first year, both Toledo and ASU will be loseable games. The cupboard is bare on talent and we fail to refill it quickly.
- 5-7 (1-7) second year, ooc way easier
- 7-5 third year, three straight Egg losses but upward trajectory.
- 5-7 fourth year with no Jackson Arnold, and a scandal breaks. Mississippi Rape becomes our school nickname. The program is tanked and we're where Baylor currently is. A bottom feeder, but worse we knowingly let the wolf into our hen house.

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Oh dear god. Go clutch your pearls harder Karen.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We said from the start we wanted a sitting HC as our next hire. We aren?t making that hire it appears. So draw you?re own conclusions

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We could easily hire Willie Fritz or Sumrall. Thankfully, we aren't.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Yeah, it's night and day comparison with Moorhead. Lebby has not only coached in the SEC, he has coached in MS.

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This.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

There?s no more risk with Lebby than hiring a G5 coach.

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I agree with this

I’m not saying it would be a bad hire. I’m pointing out we aren’t a Top 25 job

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Be pissed at Art. Lebby has been hired by 4 separate programs since then. They need to stop clutching their pearls.

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I hope you never have to know the pain that would cause someone to be staunchly against someone enabling rapists. Because clearly you don't. Consider yourself blessed with your ignorance and trust me, it's not just "clutching pearls."

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Originally Posted by Tater

That our school will be known as Mississippi Rape.

Very real worst case scenario:
- 3-9 (1-7) first year, both Toledo and ASU will be loseable games. The cupboard is bare on talent and we fail to refill it quickly.
- 5-7 (1-7) second year, ooc way easier
- 7-5 third year, three straight Egg losses but upward trajectory.
- 5-7 fourth year with no Jackson Arnold, and a scandal breaks. Mississippi Rape becomes our school nickname. The program is tanked and we're where Baylor currently is. A bottom feeder, but worse we knowingly let the wolf into our hen house.

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Jeez man. I understand your concern, but this is pretty alarmist...

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

We could easily hire Willie Fritz or Sumrall. Thankfully, we aren't.

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Doesn't Sumrall check your sec experience and MS experience also? Plus he has actual success at HC

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Originally Posted by Tater

That our school will be known as Mississippi Rape.

Very real worst case scenario:
- 3-9 (1-7) first year, both Toledo and ASU will be loseable games. The cupboard is bare on talent and we fail to refill it quickly.
- 5-7 (1-7) second year, ooc way easier
- 7-5 third year, three straight Egg losses but upward trajectory.
- 5-7 fourth year with no Jackson Arnold, and a scandal breaks. Mississippi Rape becomes our school nickname. The program is tanked and we're where Baylor currently is. A bottom feeder, but worse we knowingly let the wolf into our hen house.

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Do you just sit around making up worst case scenario fantasy worlds all day? This is absurd

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We said from the start we wanted a sitting HC as our next hire. We aren?t making that hire it appears. So draw you?re own conclusions

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Easy... I conclude that having 'HC' by your name doesn't trump everything.... Sure, we wanted that, but when we didn't get our top 3, we looked at everything.... also of note...you gave no names....just platitudes...

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If Lebby doesn't believe that Art did anything wrong, that's a big red flag. But if he does, but still associates with him because they're family, OK fine, I understand that.

But it needs to be made clear to Lebby that Briles standing or having any official connection to the program is an automatic fireable offense.

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He will never have an OFFICIAL connection to the university but if you do not think he will help out in some capacity then you are burying your head in the sand. Lebby is going to be a first time HC and one of the brightest offensive minds ever in the game of football is his father in law, who was a HC and has done it at a high level. He is going to be in the Seal building in some form or fashion.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I agree with this

I’m not saying it would be a bad hire. I’m pointing out we aren’t a Top 25 job

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Not really. Nearly half the P5 HC jobs have gone to P5 OCs in the last few years, the other half have gone to G5 HCs. There?s a few NFL guys or P5 HC?s