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10-15-2023, 08:32 AM
msudawg1200

Some of y'all are so unrealistic. Kalen DeBoer is not in any universe leaving fricking Washington and coming to State.
10-15-2023, 08:39 AM
msudawg1200

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Originally Posted by Coach34

What? We are much more exciting to watch post Leach. We have gotten away from the checkdown passes to the RBs . Leachs offense was like the Wing- T

Leach's offense produced 9 wins last year. This clown show with a veteran team and an SEC as down as it's been in 20 years is going to win 4. A side note on the Wing-T. Watching a team that can run it correctly is pure beauty. Also, you must've never coached defense because I have for 28+ years and stopping the Wing-T is a royal pain in the arse. You're talking about boring and lifeless? That crap I'm watching in Maroon and White every Saturday is just that. Awful, awful product in every phase. Awful.
10-15-2023, 08:51 AM
WPS

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If Arkansas can poach away a coach who had just won 3 straight Big Ten Championships at Wisconsin, then we can at least try to hire a coach from Washington.

Whether or not we could get him is a valid question, but let's not let our chronic inferiority complex stop us from asking.

Arkansas was just one season removed from finishing #5 in the country back then though, wouldn?t be able to do it now.
10-15-2023, 10:06 AM
Quaoarsking
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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

Some of y'all are so unrealistic. Kalen DeBoer is not in any universe leaving fricking Washington and coming to State.

I wish our fans (and really our entire state) didn't have this inferiority complex.

DeBoer would come here if the money was right, as would just about any coach. The only questions are:
- Can we afford to pay him the salary it would take to get him here?
- Even if we can afford it, should we? Is that the most optimal use of funds?
- Can we also fend off other SEC/Big 10 schools who might want him?
Personally, I'm not sure that the answer to all of those questions is Yes (or any of them, for that matter), but the idea that we shouldn't even discuss the possibility because we're just poor little Mississippi State is a cancer on our fanbase.
10-15-2023, 10:10 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

It's really not that hard. Mullen did great. He was a lazy recruiter and job searched every year. If he had given a little more effort we would have had multiple 9-10 win seasons and would have won the west at least once in his tenure. Would have made the playoffs in 2014 with a little more effort and in 2018 had he stayed.
I get it's not an easy job, but most aren't.

When are y?all gonna figure out that this is a completely new era of college football? Our job is very difficult due to the facts of, one smallest budgets in our conference, a base that will never be united behind anything, lack of NIL funding, and we are in a small state with a small population. It?s a damn hard job.
10-15-2023, 10:12 AM
Cooterpoot

We aren't going to pay $10MM. You guys can forget that and that's about what it would take. Washington is probably going to more than double his salary quickly.
10-15-2023, 10:14 AM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

BI and players is wayyyy more important than spending 6 mil for a maybe good hire/ maybe not.

The school pays for the coaches. Don't see these being competing factors.
10-15-2023, 10:36 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

The school pays for the coaches. Don't see these being competing factors.

The school actually only pays for a part of the coaches salary- the Foundation pays the rest
10-15-2023, 10:43 AM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

We aren't going to pay $10MM. You guys can forget that and that's about what it would take. Washington is probably going to more than double his salary quickly.

This
10-15-2023, 10:45 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

When are y?all gonna figure out that this is a completely new era of college football? Our job is very difficult due to the facts of, one smallest budgets in our conference, a base that will never be united behind anything, lack of NIL funding, and we are in a small state with a small population. It?s a damn hard job.

There are 69 P5 schools right now. We're about #40 in budgets. Better than that in NIL. We're realistically a middle of the pack P5 job. We're not at the bottom like some try to sell.
10-15-2023, 10:57 AM
THE Bruce Dickinson
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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I wish our fans (and really our entire state) didn't have this inferiority complex.

DeBoer would come here if the money was right, as would just about any coach. The only questions are:
Can we afford to pay him the salary it would take to get him here?
Even if we can afford it, should we? Is that the most optimal use of funds?
Can we also fend off other SEC/Big 10 schools who might want him?

Personally, I'm not sure that the answer to all of those questions is Yes (or any of them, for that matter), but the idea that we shouldn't even discuss the possibility because we're just poor little Mississippi State is a cancer on our fanbase.
We can totally get any coach we want no matter what. I personally think we are aiming low with Washington's coach. I think we should consider Jim Harbaugh or Mike Tomlin. Bill Belichick seems pretty unhappy lately in NE. We just need to give them a call and make them say no.
10-15-2023, 11:00 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

There are 69 P5 schools right now. We're about #40 in budgets. Better than that in NIL. We're realistically a middle of the pack P5 job. We're not at the bottom like some try to sell.

We are the bottom 3 in our conference across the board, it?s a tough gig,
10-15-2023, 11:02 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

We are the bottom 3 in our conference across the board, it?s a tough gig,

Nah, not at all. You're dead wrong but carry on. You seem to be doing it a lot lately.
10-15-2023, 11:02 AM
Tater

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Leach is the only current HC we have hired to be HC since Darryl Royal

If Royal counts since we hired him from Maple Football, then I feel like Bellard counts since he resigned when he knew he had a job waiting with us.

Which means to put in better perspective, the only coaches we hired that were head coaching a different college the year before:

Mike Leach (Wazzu)
Emory Bellard (Texas A&M)
Slick Morton (VMI)
10-15-2023, 11:11 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

There are 69 P5 schools right now. We're about #40 in budgets. Better than that in NIL. We're realistically a middle of the pack P5 job. We're not at the bottom like some try to sell.

Unfortunately, we have many in our fanbase that have that poor little us mentality.
10-15-2023, 11:17 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

We can totally get any coach we want no matter what. I personally think we are aiming low with Washington's coach. I think we should consider Jim Harbaugh or Mike Tomlin. Bill Belichick seems pretty unhappy lately in NE. We just need to give them a call and make them say no.

Walk in the bar and pick the fat chick early. That's the Mississippi State way.
10-15-2023, 11:33 AM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The school actually only pays for a part of the coaches salary- the Foundation pays the rest

I understand that is technically correct
10-15-2023, 12:03 PM
msudawg1200
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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I wish our fans (and really our entire state) didn't have this inferiority complex.

DeBoer would come here if the money was right, as would just about any coach. The only questions are:
Can we afford to pay him the salary it would take to get him here?
Even if we can afford it, should we? Is that the most optimal use of funds?
Can we also fend off other SEC/Big 10 schools who might want him?

Personally, I'm not sure that the answer to all of those questions is Yes (or any of them, for that matter), but the idea that we shouldn't even discuss the possibility because we're just poor little Mississippi State is a cancer on our fanbase.
Has nothing to do with an "inferiority complex". It's the truth. We could pay him more. He still isn't coming here. Period. End of story.
10-15-2023, 12:17 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Nah, not at all. You're dead wrong but carry on. You seem to be doing it a lot lately.

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You can continue to let your heart lead your head. The truth sux but you can?t run from it forever.
10-15-2023, 12:17 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

And get kalen deboer. A proven winner at every level. He?s making in the neighborhood of 3.4 mil a year right now and only has a 3 year contract. He?s the answer IF we start over. I?m only for starting over IF we can get someone like that.

He was extended last year to $4.2 MIL per year for 6 years. He has 5 years left on that deal with a $10 MIL buyout through 2025.

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