Ice we skate is gettin pretty thin, water's gettin warm so you might as well swim

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

I was fortunate. I got the opportunity to work on my uncle's tobacco farm in South Georgia that summer. It was awesome. ***

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Got all the chew you want though! Lol

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Got all the chew you want though! Lol

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Absolutely!!!! Endless supply! Lol

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Originally Posted by Coach34

2011 it was 100 or higher almost every day of August. Hottest I've ever been

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This August has already surpassed the August 2011 year in high and average. Obviously, the average could still end up lower, but as of now we're above it now.

Look fellas. All I'm saying is that the high for Wednesday where I'm at is 99?. It's not supposed to get to the triple digits in Wisconsin. That shit just ain't right. Giant snowstorm in Mississippi just ain't right. Ain't anything we can control really, it's up to corps who don't give a ****. So I'm just here to bitch that it's hot and I felt like I was starting up a Mississippi Summer again.

Got me interested in record level temps, so I googled record temps by state. What I found is wiki, so hopefully this is accurate. If it is, I find it interesting that no state's record is in 2023 (assuming it's up to date), and only 4 states are in the 2000s.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S....ature_extremes

Not saying this proves anything, but I do find it interesting that most of the records are quite old.

I figure it'll snow several times in MS this upcoming winter

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

This August has already surpassed the August 2011 year in high and average. Obviously, the average could still end up lower, but as of now we're above it now.

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Not here in Shreve its not. Only 2 days that month were under 100 and that was 98 and 97

https://climatespy.com/climate/summa...fb/august/2011

2011 was ridiculous.

funny thing about the weather is it always be changing........polar bears are thriving even though al gore said they'd be extinct by 2005

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Couple things:

1) just having a science degree doesn't make one a scientist...scientists do research (and publish) or some other type of R&D (also typically published, or at least part of some type of research program).

2) the reason you don't hear about the ozone much anymore is because the global community came together and addressed it (mostly) by phasing out/baning many of the fluorocarbon gasses that were causing the problem. A win for science!

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The global community came together.....now that's funny Beardo!!

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Originally Posted by Coach34

well except that 2011 was just as hot and a record we broke here the other day was from 1930. It happens. Its weather.

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you are missing the point. this is global warming its not just records broke in the usa its all over the world! it is ignorant to say its not happening!

wait til there are a few heavy snow storms somewhere in the world and all a sudden the earth will be dangerously lost in a heap of global cooling. It's like writing a book but changing the characters and then also having to change the title of the book to fit the new criteria.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

you are missing the point. this is global warming its not just records broke in the usa its all over the world! it is ignorant to say its not happening!

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I think the point most have a problem with is that you have periods of time where you find warming or cooling trends that were as bad or worse. Including worldwide. And when those data points occur in the past that human carbon footprint could not have been the cause, logically you have to ask how much is this completely a natural event cycle.

But for the ones who are really concerned about it and want possible ways to legitimately try and curb carbon emissions, the answer is not and never will be working from the climate change political playbook. It is not pure science it's an agenda driven scientific theory.

The first and best place to start is education and increasing the income level of impoverished countries. Because at the end of the day, carbon footprint and environmental concerns are first world problems. Third world people are trying to survive and will burn whatever cheap fuel they have and can afford to do so. Get them to better economical and educational levels, that leads them to develop better ways of generating power and heat, etc. Won't happen overnight but multiple studies, including a major think tank multinational UN study, point to this as the actual need for the global community. Climate change didn't even make the Top 100 of global problems but acknowledged that addressing the real problems would have a significant impact on actual human climate / environmental negative use.

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Originally Posted by Tater

I think it'd be a lot easier to accept and understand for people if it wasn't called Global "Warming". It's going in both directions. Not just the 100? oceans, but also the awful snow and record blizzards getting set lower and lower. Pacific even had a nasty Hurricane. The weather is hitting higher extremes on both ends.

If you were a scientist viewing Earth through a microscope, you would think Earth is infected with a virus and is trying to either sweat it out / fight against it.

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I believe it's called "climate change" these days.

1880 is where recorded temperature begins. Some Christians believe the earth is 6000 years old, and most everyone else says millions. Let's just roll with 6000 and 1 million...

143/6000 = .0238
143/1000000 = .000143

These seem like really poor sample sizes to me.

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1880 is where recorded temperature begins. Some Christians believe the earth is 6000 years old, and most everyone else says millions. Let's just roll with 6000 and 1 million...

143/6000 = .0238
143/1000000 = .000143

These seem like really poor sample sizes to me.

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What's the 143? I must have missed it in the thread discussion. And the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old, not one million. That makes your point even better.

Got it - 143 is the years of climate measurement. Duh. :)

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1880 is where recorded temperature begins. Some Christians believe the earth is 6000 years old, and most everyone else says millions. Let's just roll with 6000 and 1 million...

143/6000 = .0238
143/1000000 = .000143

These seem like really poor sample sizes to me.

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Scientist can tell weather patterns much farther back than that based on sedimentation and other factors.

How? Well I'm not gonna get into the how because any sufficiently advanced science appears like magic (or bullshit) to people who don't have a clue on it.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I think the point most have a problem with is that you have periods of time where you find warming or cooling trends that were as bad or worse. Including worldwide. And when those data points occur in the past that human carbon footprint could not have been the cause, logically you have to ask how much is this completely a natural event cycle.

But for the ones who are really concerned about it and want possible ways to legitimately try and curb carbon emissions, the answer is not and never will be working from the climate change political playbook. It is not pure science it's an agenda driven scientific theory.

The first and best place to start is education and increasing the income level of impoverished countries. Because at the end of the day, carbon footprint and environmental concerns are first world problems. Third world people are trying to survive and will burn whatever cheap fuel they have and can afford to do so. Get them to better economical and educational levels, that leads them to develop better ways of generating power and heat, etc. Won't happen overnight but multiple studies, including a major think tank multinational UN study, point to this as the actual need for the global community. Climate change didn't even make the Top 100 of global problems but acknowledged that addressing the real problems would have a significant impact on actual human climate / environmental negative use.

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What agenda are the people who say "hey maybe we shouldn't kill the earth" driving? What's the worst case scenario if they are in charge? Earth is healthier and they make a bunch of money and we show global cohesion? As opposed to now when oil / fossil fuel based agenda is being driven and we're potentially killing the planet and they are making a bunch of money in control?

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you are missing the point. this is global warming its not just records broke in the usa its all over the world! it is ignorant to say its not happening!

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I'm not missing anything. I know we have "climate change". The climate has changed for the Earth since the beginning of time. What I dont believe is:

1. We are as people causing all the climate change
2. Electric cars are the answer when we use oil and gas to make electricity. Upping the amount of electricity we'll need for that is astronomical- so all we will be doing is using oil and gas in a different way.
3. Speaking of electric cars- how about all that strip mining that is necessary to make the batteries? The batteries that are really bad for the environment once they are of no use anymore
4. Nuclear energy is being ignored when it is a cleaner energy source. Not as much money to be made off of it- so it's not pushed by MSM.
5. How funny it is that people with all this "climate change" info have been purchasing beach houses right on the ocean. They surely dont seem to worry about rising oceans affecting their purchases.

It's all a grift. Lawmakers take lobbyist money to pass green energy crap and then invest in the green energy companies. They then sell the stocks at the higher price once the news has blown the story up- and then the company goes belly up. Lawmakers bank that green though. (Pelosi and some others just got blasted for doing this)

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Originally Posted by Tater

Scientist can tell weather patterns much farther back than that.

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Atmospheric isotope data from polar ice-cores, for example. Data going back over 700,000 years. Amazing stuff.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I'm not missing anything. I know we have "climate change". The climate has changed for the Earth since the beginning of time. What I dont believe is:

1. We are as people causing all the climate change
2. Electric cars are the answer when we use oil and gas to make electricity. Upping the amount of electricity we'll need for that is astronomical- so all we will be doing is using oil and gas in a different way.
3. Speaking of electric cars- how about all that strip mining that is necessary to make the batteries? The batteries that are really bad for the environment once they are of no use anymore
4. Nuclear energy is being ignored when it is a cleaner energy source. Not as much money to be made off of it- so it's not pushed by MSM.
5. How funny it is that people with all this "climate change" info have been purchasing beach houses right on the ocean. They surely dont seem to worry about rising oceans affecting their purchases.

It's all a grift. Lawmakers take lobbyist money to pass green energy crap and then invest in the green energy companies. They then sell the stocks at the higher price once the news has blown the story up- and then the company goes belly up. Lawmakers bank that green though. (Pelosi and some others just got blasted for doing this)

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And yet we keep on re-electing these same old baffoons! We all like to bitch but we never seem to do anything about it - why?