A Way Too Early Look At What May Be Out There

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Well I think he was at a private school and if they're anything like some of the ones in Mississippi then politics runs the dang program. However, college coaches have trouble coaching at that level. They don't have patience to teach fundamentals. Especially guys like Cann because everything came naturally to him and he went straight into coaching at LSU and MSU where he was around the same kind of athletes.

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Catholic school- essentially the equivalent of a very large private school in Mississippi.

Baseball in NOLA is really no different than anywhere else. Players play travel ball and that's where they learn fundamentals. High school baseball is to me an extension of that - but it's certainly not where players learn from exclusively as far as fundamentals. The best thing about high school baseball in general to me is the fact that it is much higher profile than travel ball. People follow high school sports on a local level. It's a good experience for the players to have to deal with fans- high school kids can be cruel to each other and I'm sure there are kids that tell baseball players that they suck and things like that. They get their ass kissed too. Get to play in front of bigger crowds and more meaningful games. To me that's the biggest benefit of high school ball- not really learning the fundamentals of the game so much anymore. Players have to learn how to perform in those kinds of environments as they move up.

Cann is a good baseball mind and a great hitting coach. WHEN he is focused on that. That's his problem. He loves attention and himself and can't get out of his own way and that superscedes his actual job- coaching the team.

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

Because of daddy ball - same thing happened to my hs coach - he cut a school board members junior son and when his contract came up it wasn?t renewed

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Cann needs a college job like South Alabama or USM, win there and go make some noise in a regional in Coral Gables or College Station. Knock Out the hosts and play in a Super. Then he can be a SEC or ACC coach. He needs to do that soon.

He is a gifted coach.

People mature and change - the 15, 20, 30, and 40 year old version of a person will be drastically different. Even Lane Kiffin is hugely different, I don't hate the guy. He is different and has grown as a person.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Greg Maddux would dominate baseball in today's game. Elite locator with a 5 pitch mix that he had elite control over.

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I read in a Braves scouting write up that scouts greatly value "fluidity" and "ease of motion" in drafting players. The high effort, max effort, and funky motion kids are ones they allow for college or draft late.

Effortless Power and Natural Motion kids are huge prizes. Personally, I have seen natural motion guys dominate in every sport they play. They can just watch people play volleyball and then quickly dominate. For data nerds and analytics engineers, the "effort" in biomechanics is not an input they can use.

Maddux was a 2nd Rounder from HS. He probably did not throw 85 as a HS senior.

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

I read in a Braves scouting write up that scouts greatly value "fluidity" and "ease of motion" in drafting players. The high effort, max effort, and funky motion kids are ones they allow for college or draft late.

Effortless Power and Natural Motion kids are huge prizes. Personally, I have seen natural motion guys dominate in every sport they play. They can just watch people play volleyball and then quickly dominate. For data nerds and analytics engineers, the "effort" in biomechanics is not an input they can use.

Maddux was a 2nd Rounder from HS. He probably did not throw 85 as a HS senior.

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Maddux out of HS threw 86-89 on his fastball with great late movement. His curveball was major league ready coming out of HS and graded as high as anyones coming out of HS. His frame was his biggest knock, several scouts thought if he was more physically imposing, he would have been the top player in the draft. Most scouts had a 1st round grade on him but clubs were not sold on him from a size perspective.