OC Hired - App State OC Kevin Barbay

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01-12-2023, 11:11 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

It is a big shift. I know some talked about a modern Air Raid offense that incorporated the run game, this sure as sh!t ain't that.

This is a pistol formation, run the ball offense that hits you with playaction. Its a massive shift.

Now lets be clear, I like this type of offense, but I like it more with a QB run threat, which hasn't been his M.O., but holy hell, this is a big damn shift.

Arnett is clearly putting his stamp on this team.

Yeah is is from the McElwain tree.
01-12-2023, 11:11 AM
gtowndawg

Little nervous that he doesn't have a longer track record of work (as an OC) but watching his interviews I do like him. Solid hire that I'll put in the "up and comer" category for now.

Now let's lock down some transfers!
01-12-2023, 11:12 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Why do you have to lie to build up something else?

We were ranked #29 last year. Leach's 2nd year. There is absolutely no reason to tear down Leach.

BTW.. Mullen was ranked 49th in year 2.

What lie? We were 60th in Scoring O last year 2021...43rd in 2022 (which was helped alot by ST's). You need to get some facts straight
01-12-2023, 11:15 AM
Desoto1967

So will Will end up in Tulsa or Western Kentucky?
01-12-2023, 11:21 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Desoto1967

So will Will end up in Tulsa or Western Kentucky?

Why would Will leave? This is not a QB run required OC hire, not even close. Locke should have stayed too.
01-12-2023, 11:23 AM
msu15

I love the pistol and I watched all of their game against A&M last year and was very impressed by what the did offensively scheme wise. I am happy!
01-12-2023, 11:24 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Desoto1967

So will Will end up in Tulsa or Western Kentucky?

only fear for Will is having to throw deep on play action
01-12-2023, 11:24 AM
KOdawg1

A+ hire. Balanced offense with tempo. I love it.

There are some certain insiders that are pissed Dellenger beat them to the punch
01-12-2023, 11:26 AM
msudawg1200

I love the "meh" hire posters. They don't even have a clue what type of offense Barbay runs. or anything about his history. Just because it's not "muh Kendal Briles" or some flashy hire it sucks.
01-12-2023, 11:27 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

What lie? We were 60th in Scoring O last year 2021...43rd in 2022 (which was helped alot by ST's). You need to get some facts straight

First, you didn't say anything other than offense:

We were a top half SEC offense the 2nd half of Mullen's tenure. You then sought to tear down Leach to prop up your BS. I correctly told you we were #29 in Offense in Leach's year 2. Now you want to move the Goal Post.

So now you want to go by scoring. Guess what. Leach was scoring more in year 2 than Mullen in year 2.

Mullen 29 points.
Leach 29.1.

Like I said. You just can't do anything without tearing down something else. Even if that means lying. BTW, year 3 Leach ... 31.6. Mullen 25.3 and ranked in the 73rd
01-12-2023, 11:28 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

I love the "meh" hire posters. They don't even have a clue what type of offense Barbay runs. or anything about his history. Just because it's not "muh Kendal Briles" or some flashy hire it sucks.

He is hired. Now we support.
01-12-2023, 11:30 AM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

I love the "meh" hire posters. They don't even have a clue what type of offense Barbay runs. or anything about his history. Just because it's not "muh Kendal Briles" or some flashy hire it sucks.

Right, and no matter who we hired there were gonna be folks on here not happy about it. The fact is we ran the only version of the Leach Air Raid in the country. When we lost our Pirate Captain that offense went with him. Let's see what Zach and staff can do.
01-12-2023, 11:30 AM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

He is hired. Now we support.

Yes!!!
01-12-2023, 11:40 AM
Cooterpoot

Anyone that thought throwing the ball the way we did this year was a good idea or offense is a damn fool. Our scoring went down. Alabama ate that shit alive and laughed about it. One TD in 3 years. Give me balance, tempo, and scoring on offense.
01-12-2023, 11:42 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Right, and no matter who we hired there were gonna be folks on here not happy about it. The fact is we ran the only version of the Leach Air Raid in the country. When we lost our Pirate Captain that offense went with him. Let's see what Zach and staff can do.

Exactly. Zach wants to win. He wasn't made head coach to carry on Leach's legacy. This is his team. I will support him and the new OC until they give me ample reason not too.
01-12-2023, 11:45 AM
Matt3467

Wow this is a completely unexpected hire out of left field. Hope it works out. I'm like a few others in that I wish we stayed close to the air raid similar to what TN runs but looks like we may be back to more familiar MSU territory.
01-12-2023, 11:47 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

First, you didn't say anything other than offense:

We were a top half SEC offense the 2nd half of Mullen's tenure. You then sought to tear down Leach to prop up your BS. I correctly told you we were #29 in Offense in Leach's year 2. Now you want to move the Goal Post.

So now you want to go by scoring. Guess what. Leach was scoring more in year 2 than Mullen in year 2.

Mullen 29 points.
Leach 29.1.

Like I said. You just can't do anything without tearing down something else. Even if that means lying. BTW, year 3 Leach ... 31.6. Mullen 25.3 and ranked in the 73rd

Leach SEC Scoring:

13th in 2020
9th in 2021
8th in 2022

Mullen:

2017- 7th
2016- 7th
2015- 5th
2014- 2nd

I clearly said the 2nd half of Mullen's tenure. Mullen took over a rebuild and didnt have the luxury of the portal and such. Y2 Mullen and Y2 Leach are Apples/Oranges
01-12-2023, 11:50 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Wow this is a completely unexpected hire out of left field. Hope it works out. I'm like a few others in that I wish we stayed close to the air raid similar to what TN runs but looks like we may be back to more familiar MSU territory.

People around here have been saying our in-state recruits are more suitable for this style of offense. The coaching staff is going all in on MS recruits. We hire Barbay as OC. It's all coming together. Arnett sees what's being offered in this state and got an offense to go with it.
01-12-2023, 11:51 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

we were set up to have another 9-win season next year. Now I'am afraid of this hire.. We have personnel. for the air raid but looks like now we will go to running it more again. When we have been a run first team we have been average at best.. I wish we had stayed air raid family. But I'll get on board and hope for the best.

When I looked at next year's schedule, and what the other teams had returning, I was hoping we could find 8 wins again but expecting 7 wins.
Arkansas will be better.
aTm will be a tough win
South Carolina at their place.... very tough
LSU
Bama

Hard to find 9 wins when you look at that schedule. If we win 7 I'll say we won as many as we would have if Leach were still here.
01-12-2023, 11:53 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Desoto1967

So will Will end up in Tulsa or Western Kentucky?

Will is the starter at State next year. Non topic

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