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If we wanna stay a pass happy offense, guess we could check in on Starkville native Casey woods at smu or Bryan Ellis at Georgia southern. Ellis was at WKU with kittley.

You can be assured Briles is working the phones talking to coaches to see who would come with him before he makes his final decision.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If we wanna stay a pass happy offense, guess we could check in on Starkville native Casey woods at smu or Bryan Ellis at Georgia southern. Ellis was at WKU with kittley.

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Not against taking a look but does Lashlee and Helton call their own plays?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

For us to make the lateral pull, I think he have to overpay. Who knows if he'll be worth it, but that's what it will cost us

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Absolutely. But here's the thing- Arnett makes 3 million or so I think. Once you get past 2 million with Briles that's getting awfully close to what the head coach is making. I would imagine that would be unusual if not unheard of in that profession to have a head coach making only say 5K more than one of his coordinators in this era of college football.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Not against taking a look but does Lashlee and Helton call their own plays?

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No idea.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I'm just not seeing the rationale for paying him $2M. I'll be perfectly happy if we get him, but I did not view him as the type of coordinator to break the bank for. I guess if we really want a mobile QB and the thought is he will bring one with him, then that's maybe a little different.

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I agree. I thought I heard 1.5 million. That was a rumor though. Not sure what his current salary is but on the surface I would have maybe offered a million given his track record.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Absolutely. But here's the thing- Arnett makes 3 million or so I think. Once you get past 2 million with Briles that's getting awfully close to what the head coach is making. I would imagine that would be unusual if not unheard of in that profession to have a head coach making only say 5K more than one of his coordinators in this era of college football.

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I agree that would be unusual and you rather see a bigger separation in salary. I guess if ZA is pushing us to go this way banking on a successful season and bigger pay day / extension next year, it may be something he's fine with.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I agree. I thought I heard 1.5 million. That was a rumor though. Not sure what his current salary is but on the surface I would have maybe offered a million given his track record.

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$1.25 this year and $1.3 next year

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I agree that would be unusual and you rather see a bigger separation in salary. I guess if ZA is pushing us to go this way banking on a successful season and bigger pay day / extension next year, it may be something he's fine with.

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yep ... I think he can use KB to get himself a raise next year ... seems like a smart play

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Originally Posted by TheLostDawg

https://goduke.com/staff-directory/kevin-johns/893

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Isn't that the guy from Yellowstone?

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I agree that would be unusual and you rather see a bigger separation in salary. I guess if ZA is pushing us to go this way banking on a successful season and bigger pay day / extension next year, it may be something he's fine with.

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If you're successful as a HC the money will take care of itself. Surround yourself with the best and be successful and get paid. Zach seems like a pretty smart dude.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

If you're successful as a HC the money will take care of itself. Surround yourself with the best and be successful and get paid. Zach seems like a pretty smart dude.

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Yeah with our schedule next year, go ahead and lock in a good OC so the school is on the hook for one then get your money next year.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I think Arkansas has told him to wait and hear out their counter offer. It also could be Briles is having a discussion with his family. A lot of Ark posters were saying his wife and kids are really happy there. And maybe there's a talk with some of the offensive coaches b/c he's going to be bringing some of them with him if he chooses to leave. And of course he could be taking stock of various offensive players that are talking to him on the down low about transferring to State to play for him.

And it could be all total bullshit just to get Arkansas to break $2m just to keep him.

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Can't blame them. NWA is a very nice area and much larger than Starkville. But is $2M+ normal for an OC?

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Can't blame them. NWA is a very nice area and much larger than Starkville. But is $2M+ normal for an OC?

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The $2 MIL mark for any coordinator is at the extreme top end. Only a few make or made that. Elko, Monken, Venables

Arnett is shooting for the stars because he knows he has to get this hire right.

Looks like everything but Kendal briles has lost traction so if it isn?t briles then we may be back to square one.

Since arnett is only making 3 million I would be fine paying briles 2 million

Hell ole miss is paying 9 million for one single coach.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

If you're successful as a HC the money will take care of itself. Surround yourself with the best and be successful and get paid. Zach seems like a pretty smart dude.

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Yeah… and like 3 mill in Starkville I feel sorry for him.

I don’t understand the conversation on one guy getting paid all the money. This is where I have always respected Tom Brady he has never had the biggest contract so that they can spend the money elsewhere. This seems really smart by Zach and to know what matters which is winning. As long as my bills are paid and everyone is happy spend that money somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Arnett is shooting for the stars because he knows he has to get this hire right.

Looks like everything but Kendal briles has lost traction so if it isn?t briles then we may be back to square one.

Since arnett is only making 3 million I would be fine paying briles 2 million

Hell ole miss is paying 9 million for one single coach.

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Yeah, that's funny. Probably more than our entire staff including HC and Briles if he takes the offer.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I agree. I thought I heard 1.5 million. That was a rumor though. Not sure what his current salary is but on the surface I would have maybe offered a million given his track record.

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If you had offered him $1 million then unless he was desperate to get out of ARK then you wouldn't get him because he is making more than that now. The $1.5 or 1.6 million sounds more in line to me. Over $2 million that has been mentioned just doesn't make sense based upon CZA'a salary. And if it's over $2 million it could be higher than Monken's salary.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

If you had offered him $1 million then unless he was desperate to get out of ARK then you wouldn't get him because he is making more than that now. The $1.5 or 1.6 million sounds more in line to me. Over $2 million that has been mentioned just doesn't make sense based upon CZA'a salary. And if it's over $2 million it could be higher than Monken's salary.

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I don't necessarily disagree with you but I think you have to be $1.75-1.85 MIL to pull him and clear a counter offer from Ark that's above your offer.

You may want to keep the OC hot board up. Not nearly as confident in Briles as I was a couple of hours ago.