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Originally Posted by Coach34

Good stuff Bucky...and even the buffoon Tater made a solid post

Having a TE type player would do nothing but help Rogers
Having a legit running game would do nothing but help Rogers

I'm also hearing that the bowl game is likely Spurrier's last game at State in addition to moving forward we may go back to 1 WR coach.

Keep the Culture of the program in place
Keep the defensive philosophy that has been working in place
Hire the right OC

The OC hire will make or break Arnette

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Come on man, you could have made that comment without the "buffoon" part. This time is a time for healing and coming together to celebrate the man Leach was

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Hes gonna get a shot. A big time bowl win and it would be hard to pick someone else. Leach trusted him

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I'm confused. Are we going with Spurrier or all in on Littrell?

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Originally Posted by Activated Alpha

Come on man, you could have made that comment without the "buffoon" part. This time is a time for healing and coming together to celebrate the man Leach was

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A) Tater is a buffoon

B) Did you make these same posts on his replies to me the last 2 days?

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

What about Harmon?

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Watched him a bunch in HS?.he could definitely be a bit of a matchup nightmare if we put 10-15lbs more on him and slide him to H/TE hybrid

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Originally Posted by Coach34

A) Tater is a buffoon

B) Did you make these same posts on his replies to me the last 2 days?

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I haven't seen his posts in the last 2 days, but I would say the same thing to him. Set aside personal disputes and insults during this time.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm confused. Are we going with Spurrier or all in on Littrell?

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If Spurrier does well in the bowl it will be ages to pick someone else. If you can get Riley or Littrell you jump on it. Nothing will be decided till after Jan 2. Spurrier deserves the bowl game at the bare minimum. He is a good dude and has done a great job for us and Leach for a long time. The knock on him is going to be can he handle the knowledge of the entire offense

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Originally Posted by Tater

At the end of the day, I think what has transpired with Dillon is going to turn him into a much better man and into a harder worker.

This tragedy will be emotional for him and such a life lesson. Him being willing to come back to State and admit his mistake would be a huge growth step forward. I'd almost look at it as we lost a prima donna RB to the portal and gained a hard-working, sec-experienced, mentally strong HB from the portal. We'd upgrade for sure. That would be the type of player we want to add to the team.

I feel like him coming back would be him responding correctly to Leach. Leach's comments came from a place of disappointment. He saw greatness in Dillon. Dillon did something mentally weak and did double down on it. To come back, would not be to spite Leach. It would to be accepting that a great man needed to coach him to be better and acting on that. I, for one, would love to see that happen. How awesome would it be to be the last player to gather great inspiration directly from Mike Leach.

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Great points. Now let's see what he does.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

A) Tater is a buffoon

B) Did you make these same posts on his replies to me the last 2 days?

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I replied to you once where you made a coach's death about you. You were being a egotistical idiot and deserved some ridicule.

But yea equate the post where you being a shitbird, me calling you out to the post where you even admit i made a good post and you take an unnecessary jab. Notice in both instances you're the first one with shitty character traits here.

Some day you'll be able to do some self reflection. Until then, I hear little caeser's in Dubuque, Iowa needs a shakerboarder.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I agree. We all make mistakes and I wholeheartedly believe in second chances, provided he's humble and willing to make amends with the team and staff I wouldn't have any problems accepting him back. I would tell him he needs to stay off social media though.

When someone shows contrition and apologizes and shows their willing to do better then it should all be forgiven and forgotten.

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I thought it was already big of him to come back on twitter and say his condolences for Leach. Said even family sometimes have arguments and seemed remorseful. My wife taught him when he was younger and he?s a good kid and has a good family I believe. Just made an emotional, rash mistake on twitter. It doesn?t make him a bad kid and so far his track record says that. I believe twitter was the outlier.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

If Spurrier does well in the bowl it will be ages to pick someone else. If you can get Riley or Littrell you jump on it. Nothing will be decided till after Jan 2. Spurrier deserves the bowl game at the bare minimum. He is a good dude and has done a great job for us and Leach for a long time. The knock on him is going to be can he handle the knowledge of the entire offense

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You mean to say he’s been this long with Leach and would have a problem with the entire offense??? I’m not endorsing him, but I just find that hard to believe.

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

I thought it was already big of him to come back on twitter and say his condolences for Leach. Said even family sometimes have arguments and seemed remorseful. My wife taught him when he was younger and he?s a good kid and has a good family I believe. Just made an emotional, rash mistake on twitter. It doesn?t make him a bad kid and so far his track record says that. I believe twitter was the outlier.

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I think he has had some people in his ear. From home and else where

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Originally Posted by Tater

I replied to you once where you made a coach's death about you. You were being a egotistical idiot and deserved some ridicule.

But yea equate the post where you being a shitbird, me calling you out to the post where you even admit i made a good post and you take an unnecessary jab. Notice in both instances you're the first one with shitty character traits here.

Some day you'll be able to do some self reflection. Until then, I hear little caeser's in Dubuque, Iowa needs a shakerboarder.

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The older I get, and the more stress and shit I have to deal with at work, jobs like that sound so awesome to me. Then.... there's the pay thingy.....

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Lots of TEs in the portal

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Has Cameron Matthews played any football? He would be a beast at TE!! Hail State!

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Good stuff Bucky...and even the buffoon Tater made a solid post

Having a TE type player would do nothing but help Rogers
Having a legit running game would do nothing but help Rogers

I'm also hearing that the bowl game is likely Spurrier's last game at State in addition to moving forward we may go back to 1 WR coach.

Keep the Culture of the program in place
Keep the defensive philosophy that has been working in place
Hire the right OC

The OC hire will make or break Arnette

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Wait... you mean to tell me a coach might leave?!?! No way **

I don't understand the Spurrier love. Seems like a good dude, but if his last name wasn't Spurrier, some of y'all wouldn't be going nuts for him. Mason Miller is more qualified to run the offense, but I hope we go with an outside hire. Arnett being a first year head coach will need a solid coordinator to help him. Littrell or Hatcher would do.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I just dont know if we have anyone on the roster that would first of all want to play TE/H and then anyone that could play it

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I'm not too worried about that. Harmon can bulk up and it will get him on the field more and we have a walk-on from Hinds coming in. All we need is one more dude from the portal and we should be Ok there. H-Back is a role position anyway so we'll probably be able to find a decent grad transfer or a JUCO guy to fill in that role.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Wait... you mean to tell me a coach might leave?!?! No way **

I don't understand the Spurrier love. Seems like a good dude, but if his last name wasn't Spurrier, some of y'all wouldn't be going nuts for him. Mason Miller is more qualified to run the offense, but I hope we go with an outside hire. Arnett being a first year head coach will need a solid coordinator to help him. Littrell or Hatcher would do.

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If Miller was a candidate then why isn't he or Hollinghead calling the plays? I know only one guy can call the plays. I also don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that we make Spurrier or Hollinghead the passing game coordinator and Miller the run game coordinator and have co-OC.

At any rate it doesn't sound like anything is set in stone at this point.

The thing to remember is we have a lot of assistants that have been with Leach since Washington State and some go back as far as his Texas Tech or Valdosta State days. They were super loyal to Leach, but Arnett is not Leach. Not saying they dislike Arnett, but they may be ready for a new opportunity elsewhere now that their mentor is gone.

Point being, our staff retention under Leach was amazing from year to year. Like abnormally good. Don?t be shocked if you see more movement now that Leach is no longer with us.

My favorite was Littrell for OC, but after I heard the way Hatcher explained his offense, a basketball on grass mentality, I think I [refer him over Littrell, but I think either would be fine. It takes that high tempo offense to compete with the Bama's. I just don''t see Arnett giving the OC position to an unproven WR coach. If we didn't have the money then that would make more sense. This OC hire is what will make or break Artnett. I think we also need a well known OC to attract the receivers, and the skill players we want to get. Moving Brock to DC makes sense to me though.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If Miller was a candidate then why isn't he or Hollinghead calling the plays? I know only one guy can call the plays. I also don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that we make Spurrier or Hollinghead the passing game coordinator and Miller the run game coordinator and have co-OC.

At any rate it doesn't sound like anything is set in stone at this point.

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I think passing game coordinator and run game coordinator has 0% possibility concerning this upcoming hire. I hope Arnett finds a spot for Hollingshead though ( I bet he does), because he is an upcoming coach with a lot of potential, and involved heavily in our recruiting.

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Originally Posted by wrapit

Offense needs to morph a bit from the true air raid, but Leach was doing that slowly it appeared, with the increase in rushing production. So this sounds good. I'd love to see a TE mixed in on occasion to keep the defense honest and of course a QB that can run a bit. The think that worries me a bit is the play calling. It appears Leach was very good at it. That skill wins/loses ball games.
I'm not worried at all about the defense with Arnett in charge of the program.

Hail State!

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I don't understand why it is so important to hand the ball to the running back where he gains 3 or 4 yards as opposed to throwing it to him in space where he may have some running room.
I can see where a fast mobile quarterback may be able to keep plays alive longer so the ball can be thrown further down field though. Leach believed in repetition and he invested a lot of them in the first string quarterback. He probably didn't want his QB do run too much and get hurt. Notice the SC QB got hurt and it probably cost them the game against Utah. I think the LSU QB got hurt before or during the championship game too.
Anyway, I believe the offensive line is a big key to Will's success and Leach was slowly building it to where he wanted it with his type of players. It can take a few years to build your OL with the depth you need.

I like the scheme but that's my opinion.

I really enjoy reading the different viewpoints on this board though.