Will isn't the answer....

From Leach's post game presser: " In the meantime, we’re trying to be too perfect, these perfect little plays. Look how long it took us to get a snap off. That’s just ridiculous."

I took this as a frustrating shot at Rogers. Leach didn't like the pre snap calls at the LOS.

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Originally Posted by msu15

If Sawyer started we wouldn't win another game besides East Tennessee State. Will is absolutely our best current option.

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Is there anyway in hell we can get Luke Altmyer to transfer in? Just thinking if Sawyer isn't cutting it.

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Is there anyway in hell we can get Luke Altmyer to transfer in? Just thinking if Sawyer isn't cutting it.

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Amazing. Highly recruited 4 star QB from Texas signs with State, and turns out he's not worth a darn. I suppose the other 2 QB's we signed from Texas, Greek and Locke, aren't any good either.

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Is there anyway in hell we can get Luke Altmyer to transfer in? Just thinking if Sawyer isn't cutting it.

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He's just a freshman. Will wasn't ready then either. He was just forced into action. He's going to be the next guy when it's time.

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Is there anyway in hell we can get Luke Altmyer to transfer in? Just thinking if Sawyer isn't cutting it.

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Why? He sucks

Rogers cant handle the mental games DCs play. He has guys open but dumps it off. He was lost as a damn goose with all the looks KY gave him. And it was the same damn looks he saw last year.
But, for our coach to come out and say he knew we weren't ready is also an indictment on him and that staff. I really hope we let some kids walk end of season and fill their spots with transfers. I've seen enough of some of these guys. They aren't good enough.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Rogers cant handle the mental games DCs play. He has guys open but dumps it off. He was lost as a damn goose with all the looks KY gave him. And it was the same damn looks he saw last year.
But, for our coach to come out and say he knew we weren't ready is also an indictment on him and that staff. I really hope we let some kids walk end of season and fill their spots with transfers. I've seen enough of some of these guys. They aren't good enough.

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How can a 5 million Dollar Coach say he knew we were in trouble because we had a bad week of practice? If I'm Cohen we would be having a good long conversation Sunday afternoon. I was shocked to hear Leach say that.

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How can a 5 million Dollar Coach say he knew we were in trouble because we had a bad week of practice? If I'm Cohen we would be having a good long conversation Sunday afternoon. I was shocked to hear Leach say that.

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Well, the alternative is blowing smoke - and Leach isn't known for doing that. And, he's likely right. Base, you seem like you have been around a enough teams to know that for some reason they can just be "off". Sometimes they get over it and have a good game, and sometimes they don't and lay an egg. It's why programs like Alabama are the exception and not the rule. I'd much rather hear Leach say that than "Not enough STRAIN".

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Well, the alternative is blowing smoke - and Leach isn't known for doing that. And, he's likely right. Base, you seem like you have been around a enough teams to know that for some reason they can just be "off". Sometimes they get over it and have a good game, and sometimes they don't and lay an egg. It's why programs like Alabama are the exception and not the rule. I'd much rather hear Leach say that than "Not enough STRAIN".

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And the truth is, even with ALL the talent Bama has, UT still needed their help to win. Bama gave that game away. B Robinson on the punt return for example. All teams have these games, it's just that Bama, UGA and others can over come them due to talent alone. Bama friend of mine told me they would lose at least 1 game after watching play for 3 weeks. And they by far have the best Roster in NCAA.

Sometimes I think our fans believe we have that type of roster or should never have the issues that bama has had every year.

Hope that made sense.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

He's just a freshman. Will wasn't ready then either. He was just forced into action. He's going to be the next guy when it's time.

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I thought he was a redshirt freshman, in which case he should be ready to contribute if he's going to contribute.

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Well, the alternative is blowing smoke - and Leach isn't known for doing that. And, he's likely right. Base, you seem like you have been around a enough teams to know that for some reason they can just be "off". Sometimes they get over it and have a good game, and sometimes they don't and lay an egg. It's why programs like Alabama are the exception and not the rule. I'd much rather hear Leach say that than "Not enough STRAIN".

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I don't care who is the Coach, but when a coach says we had a bad week of practice, just doesn't set in with me. I don't care what sport it is; Coaches are paid to get their team ready. Would you feel good about attending a game knowing the team isn't prepared? That is exactly what Leach meant. I realize teams can have a letdown, but not good teams that have momentum going and for some reason aren't focused during the week. It all comes back to who is in charge. Leach didn't say a bad practice or two, he said a week. That is not good, lack of motivation begins with getting your team ready and prepared. Btw, we can blame our defense, but never have I ever heard of a Coach not taking an interest in what is going on with game planning.

Btw, 7-5 isn't all bad at Msu, if he can win the games he is supposed to win, I'm ok with that. We were awful in all phases of the game, no wonder we had so many penalties, lack of execution in practice has a lot to do with the game being played.

Btw Bruins, you are a good fan and good dude, I'm not mad at you or anyone on this board. I just don't agree with some, and I hope to grow wool like I use to do in the ole days, but since I retired things change, LOL!

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Well, the alternative is blowing smoke - and Leach isn't known for doing that. And, he's likely right. Base, you seem like you have been around a enough teams to know that for some reason they can just be "off". Sometimes they get over it and have a good game, and sometimes they don't and lay an egg. It's why programs like Alabama are the exception and not the rule. I'd much rather hear Leach say that than "Not enough STRAIN".

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Yeah hearing that doesn't make anyone happy but I've heard the same thing from coaches at the high school
level all the way up to Belichick say the exact same thing. Still sucks.

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I don't care who is the Coach, but when a coach says we had a bad week of practice, just doesn't set in with me. I don't care what sport it is; Coaches are paid to get their team ready. Would you feel good about attending a game knowing the team isn't prepared? That is exactly what Leach meant. I realize teams can have a letdown, but not good teams that have momentum going and for some reason aren't focused during the week. It all comes back to who is in charge. Leach didn't say a bad practice or two, he said a week. That is not good, lack of motivation begins with getting your team ready and prepared. Btw, we can blame our defense, but never have I ever heard of a Coach not taking an interest in what is going on with game planning.

Btw, 7-5 isn't all bad at Msu, if he can win the games he is supposed to win, I'm ok with that. We were awful in all phases of the game, no wonder we had so many penalties, lack of execution in practice has a lot to do with the game being played.

Btw Bruins, you are a good fan and good dude, I'm not mad at you or anyone on this board. I just don't agree with some, and I hope to grow wool like I use to do in the ole days, but since I retired things change, LOL!

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I will be happy with 7-5 if it includes a victory over OM, losing 3 in a row to them with 7-5, not so happy at all. When we beat AU and ETS, we should play to our abilities and finish 8-4 with that victory over OM. "Play" like we did at KY, it's a failure 6-6 regular season, 6-7 with a loss in a meaningless bowl.

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And the truth is, even with ALL the talent Bama has, UT still needed their help to win. Bama gave that game away. B Robinson on the punt return for example. All teams have these games, it's just that Bama, UGA and others can over come them due to talent alone. Bama friend of mine told me they would lose at least 1 game after watching play for 3 weeks. And they by far have the best Roster in NCAA.

Sometimes I think our fans believe we have that type of roster or should never have the issues that bama has had every year.

Hope that made sense.

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I think we also have a lot of fans who don't watch a lot of other teams. A&M, UK, Auburn, LSU, Florida, MSU, Arkansas and maybe USC are all in the same boat right now. They are good teams that will ebb and flow this season based on mistakes, injuries, and the ability to stay "up". UT, UGA, Bama, are elite, and will overcome most of their issues by out talenting everyone unless they are playing each other. Then you have a result like Bama Saturday - where Bama did as much to beat themselves as UT did. OM is still an unknown. They have played poorly against some bad teams, played well against some bad teams. They maybe a step above the "same boat" group, but may not be. They could have stolen Auburn's lucky horseshoe they had crammed up their ass for a decade. Vandy and Missouri SUCK and can't even take advantage of other teams playing them like shit.

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And the truth is, even with ALL the talent Bama has, UT still needed their help to win. Bama gave that game away. B Robinson on the punt return for example. All teams have these games, it's just that Bama, UGA and others can over come them due to talent alone. Bama friend of mine told me they would lose at least 1 game after watching play for 3 weeks. And they by far have the best Roster in NCAA.

Sometimes I think our fans believe we have that type of roster or should never have the issues that bama has had every year.

Hope that made sense.

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Pretty obvious we don't have the talent Alabama has, but our lackadaisical performance at Kentucky is inexcusable. I'm pretty sure we have better overall talent than Kentucky. I don't expect us to come close to beating Alabama. They have too much speed and talent. They probably have the best RB in the nation is Gibbs. If he gets to the outside, no way we're catching him.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yeah hearing that doesn't make anyone happy but I've heard the same thing from coaches at the high school
level all the way up to Belichick say the exact same thing. Still sucks.

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I guess I'm ole school, I never said that with any team I had, never ever heard any coaches I played for or even coached against talk about not practicing good and knew they were in trouble going into a game. Oh, I had teams (a few) that I had to work their tail off to get their attention, my thought was if practice wasn't going well, we would stop and work on conditioning. Played football and had a Coach who saw things going bad in practice and he would stop things, and we went into tackling drills and one on one blocking. Got everyone attention.

Enough from me, on to the next game. LOL

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I guess I'm ole school, I never said that with any team I had, never ever heard any coaches I played for or even coached against talk about not practicing good and knew they were in trouble going into a game. Oh, I had teams (a few) that I had to work their tail off to get their attention, my thought was if practice wasn't going well, we would stop and work on conditioning. Played football and had a Coach who saw things going bad in practice and he would stop things, and we went into tackling drills and one on one blocking. Got everyone attention.

Enough from me, on to the next game. LOL

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Base, I'm right there with ya! I went by the theory I learned when I was young, Make practice hell so games seem like a walk in the park. You know yourself though you get a feel for a team and when somethings just not quite right and no matter how hard you push, they still don't respond like you want too.

I remember hearing Belichik talking to Brady on the sideline back 2009 i think it was at the end of a game they were losing badly. And he was telling Brady no matter what he tried he just couldn't get the team to perform and that they weren't mentally tough and Brady was agreeing.

I always appreciate and respect your opinions, Base. They're always good and always rational!

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Originally Posted by basedog

I don't care who is the Coach, but when a coach says we had a bad week of practice, just doesn't set in with me. I don't care what sport it is; Coaches are paid to get their team ready. Would you feel good about attending a game knowing the team isn't prepared? That is exactly what Leach meant. I realize teams can have a letdown, but not good teams that have momentum going and for some reason aren't focused during the week. It all comes back to who is in charge. Leach didn't say a bad practice or two, he said a week. That is not good, lack of motivation begins with getting your team ready and prepared. Btw, we can blame our defense, but never have I ever heard of a Coach not taking an interest in what is going on with game planning.

Btw, 7-5 isn't all bad at Msu, if he can win the games he is supposed to win, I'm ok with that. We were awful in all phases of the game, no wonder we had so many penalties, lack of execution in practice has a lot to do with the game being played.

Btw Bruins, you are a good fan and good dude, I'm not mad at you or anyone on this board. I just don't agree with some, and I hope to grow wool like I use to do in the ole days, but since I retired things change, LOL!

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Didn't he specifically say Tuesday and Wednesday?

Anyway, no, it's not just up to the coaches. It's up to the team. But Leach did take the blame as well. Fact is, sometimes you do what you can do and when that doesn't work, they learn the hard way. Saying it out loud isn't a problem. It is holding everybody accountable to the world.

My opinion is that It could be the mental difference to this team. They have it said out loud. It showed up. and maybe that helps them grow in the right direction. Sort of like when I got in trouble as a kid and one of my friends wanted me to go out or play. Not only was I dealing with the grounding and arse beating, I had to deal with the embarrassment when my friends heard my parents say "he can't go out because he did 'x' and we don't accept that behavior".

I hope they are embarrassed, pissed, and motivated. ALONG WITH THE STAFF!

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I think we also have a lot of fans who don't watch a lot of other teams. A&M, UK, Auburn, LSU, Florida, MSU, Arkansas and maybe USC are all in the same boat right now. They are good teams that will ebb and flow this season based on mistakes, injuries, and the ability to stay "up". UT, UGA, Bama, are elite, and will overcome most of their issues by out talenting everyone unless they are playing each other. Then you have a result like Bama Saturday - where Bama did as much to beat themselves as UT did. OM is still an unknown. They have played poorly against some bad teams, played well against some bad teams. They maybe a step above the "same boat" group, but may not be. They could have stolen Auburn's lucky horseshoe they had crammed up their ass for a decade. Vandy and Missouri SUCK and can't even take advantage of other teams playing them like shit.

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I will never understand why MO was even invited to join the SEC. Very bad fit except adding KC/StL tv market, if people even watch.

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Pretty obvious we don't have the talent Alabama has, but our lackadaisical performance at Kentucky is inexcusable. I'm pretty sure we have better overall talent than Kentucky. I don't expect us to come close to beating Alabama. They have too much speed and talent. They probably have the best RB in the nation is Gibbs. If he gets to the outside, no way we're catching him.

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Correcting your post: when Gibbs gets outside.