buy or sell - Costello is a first round pick next year.

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04-24-2020, 12:17 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

NFL certainly easier since they don't have to have 20-50K people on campus. Still up in the air but I heard other day some schools are already making plans to be open in fall. I'd say it is 75% right now school open in fall. If school is open, then there will be ball.

The way Sankey was talking the other day I don't know that it matters if students are on campus or not as far as football goes.
04-24-2020, 12:18 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

Oh, we're doing this again? Geez. The guy hasn't played a single down for us. Hell, we probably won't even have football in the fall.

HS workouts start June 1st in Mississippi
04-24-2020, 12:38 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by AmiteDog

Not gonna happen. Book it

We're having football. 97% of ADs disagree with you
04-24-2020, 01:48 PM
PMDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

HS workouts start June 1st in Mississippi

That's really an aside. My main point is we hype our QB every preseason, and it just doesn't really pan out. Now, I know we'll set passing records under Leach, but it's way to early to debate this. There's just too many unknowns. Let's at least see him throw 1 pass to our WRs before we go here.
04-24-2020, 04:29 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

That's really an aside. My main point is we hype our QB every preseason, and it just doesn't really pan out. Now, I know we'll set passing records under Leach, but it's way to early to debate this. There's just too many unknowns. Let's at least see him throw 1 pass to our WRs before we go here.

oh I agree completely with that
04-24-2020, 05:31 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Such an odd statement. Fromm is about to be an nfl qb 3 years out of HS. And he wasn't a 5-star to start with

It's Shotgun dude **
04-24-2020, 05:58 PM
State82

Hard sell. Just WAY too many variables and unknowns to buy at this time. It would be outstanding if he does but no way I'm betting on it.
04-25-2020, 01:47 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

That's really an aside. My main point is we hype our QB every preseason, and it just doesn't really pan out. Now, I know we'll set passing records under Leach, but it's way to early to debate this. There's just too many unknowns. Let's at least see him throw 1 pass to our WRs before we go here.

Dak? Fitz set the SEC rushing record for QB's although yes, his passing left a lot to be desired.

Part of the problem there is we have fans that aren't impressed or appreciate what some of our players are doing and overly critical at times of some of them. Literally I could see us having a QB throw 5 TD's 0 INT's and go 36/40 and we would have some fans "worried about" something like his throwing motion or those four incompletions. Either that or our fans would downplay the competition. Either it's "yeah but it's just Louisiana Tech" or it's "yeah but Alabama was way down that year."

The reality is this: Costello is a talented QB. First round? I don't know. Dak wasn't. Neither were Joe Montana or Tom Brady two of the best I have ever seen. Nor was Drew Brees. So it doesn't really matter. Best case scenario is he is has a year like Gardner Minchew. Leach produces QB's that typically get drafted- we'll see if Anthony Gordon gets picked tomorrow. It's reasonable to predict that Costello has a good chance to get drafted next year.
04-25-2020, 01:49 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Coach34

HS workouts start June 1st in Mississippi

And gyms will be open as part of Phase one. Meaning it's very reasonable to think that college teams could begin summer workouts.
04-25-2020, 02:46 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Dak? Fitz set the SEC rushing record for QB's although yes, his passing left a lot to be desired.

Part of the problem there is we have fans that aren't impressed or appreciate what some of our players are doing and overly critical at times of some of them. Literally I could see us having a QB throw 5 TD's 0 INT's and go 36/40 and we would have some fans "worried about" something like his throwing motion or those four incompletions. Either that or our fans would downplay the competition. Either it's "yeah but it's just Louisiana Tech" or it's "yeah but Alabama was way down that year."

The reality is this: Costello is a talented QB. First round? I don't know. Dak wasn't. Neither were Joe Montana or Tom Brady two of the best I have ever seen. Nor was Drew Brees. So it doesn't really matter. Best case scenario is he is has a year like Gardner Minchew. Leach produces QB's that typically get drafted- we'll see if Anthony Gordon gets picked tomorrow. It's reasonable to predict that Costello has a good chance to get drafted next year.

I agree that Costello has a good chance to be selected. I think even if he has just a decent season he'll be selected. However, to be a 1st rounder it would take a VERY special Heisman type season. I just don't know that we have the WRs that could help produce that type of season.
04-25-2020, 04:27 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I agree that Costello has a good chance to be selected. I think even if he has just a decent season he'll be selected. However, to be a 1st rounder it would take a VERY special Heisman type season. I just don't know that we have the WRs that could help produce that type of season.

Or really do we have the year to do it? If we go 11-2 like Washington State- maybe. I think our receivers potentially improve quite a bit honestly. Osiris has improved every year and he's a senior. Heath only went JUCO because of JPS BS. I bet he's an upgrade over Guidry. I think Javonta Payton, Dontae Jones, and Austin Williams were all underutilized under Joe and not sure what we have there but all have showed glimpses at times. Payton is an extremely hard worker. I think he has a good year. Spivey was rumored to be looking good in workouts as well.
04-25-2020, 09:47 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Or really do we have the year to do it? If we go 11-2 like Washington State- maybe. I think our receivers potentially improve quite a bit honestly. Osiris has improved every year and he's a senior. Heath only went JUCO because of JPS BS. I bet he's an upgrade over Guidry. I think Javonta Payton, Dontae Jones, and Austin Williams were all underutilized under Joe and not sure what we have there but all have showed glimpses at times. Payton is an extremely hard worker. I think he has a good year. Spivey was rumored to be looking good in workouts as well.

You think 11-2 is possible?
04-26-2020, 04:21 PM
Walkerhill

I wish I had worded this differently.

What I was really wondering: do you think Costello has the upside potential to be a 1st round pick of this year (if things go well - there is actually football, KJ stays healthy, and so on).

I was not wondering if it is guaranteed, but rather whether it is possible in an ideal but still realistic scenario.

Related question - the top concerns seem to be covid19 impacts, throwing mechanics, and wr. On wide receiver, do you think the State wr in 2020 are better or worse than Wazoo in 2019?
04-26-2020, 04:47 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

You think 11-2 is possible?

I think it's "possible" but I also don't think it's likely. 11-2 would be everything went right and we had a special season. 11-2 is pretty much the top of the ceiling. I think we will probably finish something like 8-4 if I had to predict it.
04-26-2020, 04:49 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Walkerhill

I wish I had worded this differently.

What I was really wondering: do you think Costello has the upside potential to be a 1st round pick of this year (if things go well - there is actually football, KJ stays healthy, and so on).

I was not wondering if it is guaranteed, but rather whether it is possible in an ideal but still realistic scenario.

Related question - the top concerns seem to be covid19 impacts, throwing mechanics, and wr. On wide receiver, do you think the State wr in 2020 are better or worse than Wazoo in 2019?

I think he has the upside to become a first round pick.

As far as the WR's- my guess is we're probably about the same but since we're in a more difficult league the results could be less statistically.

Also as far as social distancing- I'm not sure why Costello couldn't get with our receivers and throw to them right now. I've seen videos of our players working out with private trainers in gyms and it would be like going to a park essentially.
04-26-2020, 10:43 PM
dantheman4248

Buy. If Tommy can get drafted then KJ will be #1. Last time Leach was in the SEC he had a qb go #1 overall so statistics say KJ Costello first overall.

Stats are undeniable I ran the simulations it's all gonna work out.
04-27-2020, 06:49 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Buy. If Tommy can get drafted then KJ will be #1. Last time Leach was in the SEC he had a qb go #1 overall so statistics say KJ Costello first overall.

Stats are undeniable I ran the simulations it's all gonna work out.

You left out these **** when saying "stats are undeniable". Remember, it all depends on your GR&A.
04-27-2020, 07:46 AM
StateDawg44

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Dak? Fitz set the SEC rushing record for QB's although yes, his passing left a lot to be desired.

Part of the problem there is we have fans that aren't impressed or appreciate what some of our players are doing and overly critical at times of some of them. Literally I could see us having a QB throw 5 TD's 0 INT's and go 36/40 and we would have some fans "worried about" something like his throwing motion or those four incompletions. Either that or our fans would downplay the competition. Either it's "yeah but it's just Louisiana Tech" or it's "yeah but Alabama was way down that year."

The reality is this: Costello is a talented QB. First round? I don't know. Dak wasn't. Neither were Joe Montana or Tom Brady two of the best I have ever seen. Nor was Drew Brees. So it doesn't really matter. Best case scenario is he is has a year like Gardner Minchew. Leach produces QB's that typically get drafted- we'll see if Anthony Gordon gets picked tomorrow. It's reasonable to predict that Costello has a good chance to get drafted next year.

Yeah but he just has this hitch.

You can't fix a hitch.
04-27-2020, 06:26 PM
Bothrops

Thanks to the Chinese Govt, we don't know a damn thing about nothing right now.
04-27-2020, 06:37 PM
msstate7

Fox buys... Costello in their early draft for 2021

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/galler...ections-042720

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