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Originally Posted by TNDawg35

Dude you have yet to be right on a damn thing... Your full of bullshit!!!

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Yep!

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I'll take every other single stop he was at as my jumping off point for him.

Also, the defense he inherited gave up almost 500 yards a game the year before he got there. 120th in the nation. He moved them to 96th year 1 and 63rd year 2.

I would say not bad.

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Who cares!!! The head guy is still the same clown that could 17 up a football bat. This would one of the dumbest moves ever made by any admin ever, and erase all of what was built before. That football building might as well be demolished and turned into overflow baseball parking. He Arkansas hold our beer.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Who cares!!! The head guy is still the same clown that could 17 up a football bat. This would one of the dumbest moves ever made by any admin ever, and erase all of what was built before. That football building might as well be demolished and turned into overflow baseball parking.

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Ummm...I don't disagree.

Not sure why everyone is mob freaking out. Chizik would be a solid DC hire no matter who the coach is. Doesn't mean I want Moorhead to stay.

Board needs to calm the hell down

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Originally Posted by jwells

The latest I have is that it appears Moorhead has agreed to the required changes. It is believed an OC with full autonomy and play calling duties was required and Moorhead begrudgingly obliged at the risk of losing his job. Shoop is going to move on and I have been told no assistant is safe. Some may be retained but none are for sure back.

Just a disappointing decision. Things were trending in the right direction towards a dismissal but unfortunately we took the route that just prolongs things.

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If this happens, I'm out...This is not what's best for Miss. State University, if the administration wants to continue down this path, they will do it without my support. When Joe is no longer our coach, my support will return.

Sunshine pumper conspiracy theory:

We absolutely ARE GETTING NAPIER, but he wants to coach in the game on Monday. So, to take heat off him, the admin is pushing this believable smokescreen. They have to come up with something that will keep the cat in the bag for several days, saying "JoMo agreed to everything so hes staying" is arguably the best cover they could push right now

Remember boys that there is always a smokescreen. And jewlls has almost always been wrong....

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

Shame we would just throw 2020 away when our new coach could be using this year as a rebuilding year for the new install and getting over the learning curve. What a waste of time and money for everyone.

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it would also the equivalent of OM putting us in a reverse headlock

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Sunshine pumper conspiracy theory:

We absolutely ARE GETTING NAPIER, but he wants to coach in the game on Monday. So, to take heat off him, the admin is pushing this believable smokescreen. They have to come up with something that will keep the cat in the bag for several days, saying "JoMo agreed to everything so hes staying" is arguably the best cover they could push right now

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He can still coach ULL's game and it leak out he will be named our coach. Happens all the time.

So if true, the one guy that has proven he can actually coach, Shoop, is gone?

Damn

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Remember boys that there is always a smokescreen. And jewlls has almost always been wrong....

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wait, it's another 'jwells Exclusive"!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Who cares!!! The head guy is still the same clown that could 17 up a football bat. This would one of the dumbest moves ever made by any admin ever, and erase all of what was built before. That football building might as well be demolished and turned into overflow baseball parking. He Arkansas hold our beer.

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Exactly! As long as joe stays nothing changes .

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

If true, worst of all possible outcomes and doesn't accomplish jacksh*t. We will still have a decaying culture and it will still be Joe's offense. Joe has no clue how to run a successful SEC program and that is not going to change in a few months time by making changes forced on him by Cohen to keep his job.

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This will never work. Who in their right mind would want to work for this disorganized, under achieving, know-it-all?. The new staff would be weaker than the one the last year that Jackie had, washed up ex-HC's and worse that we have now. Jo couldn't organize a two person tic tac toe tournament. He would stand there like a cigar store wooden Indian wondering why his player didn't win using his "plan", make a thousand excuses, tell everyone to be happy because he didn't use a chess board, chew up the loyal fans, and back his bosses into corner for a raise and extension. More $ will be lost to MSU and the Starkville businesses than the buyout.

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Originally Posted by jwells

He can still coach ULL's game and it leak out he will be named our coach. Happens all the time.

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Against the wishes of the guy coaching in the game, yes. It makes it awkward and harder to get the players focused. So yeah, Napier would prefer us to put up a smoke vs making his life harder

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

This will never work. Would in their right mind would want to work for this disorganized, under achieving, know-it-all?. The new staff would be weaker than the one the last year that Jackie had, wasted up ex-HC's and worse that we have now. Jo couldn't organize a two person tic tac toe tournament. He would stand there like a cigar store wooden Indian wondering why his player didn't win using his "plan", make a thousand excuses, tell everyone to be happy because he didn't use a chess board, chew up the loyal fans, and back his bosses into corner for a raise and extension. More $ will be lost to MSU and the Starkville businesses than the buyout.

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Why even keep him at all? Yeah- we'll keep Moorhead and fire everyone else. I mean- we might as well just fire Moorhead if we're going to do that.

1. Why keep a soft, unorganized, non-disciplinarian offensive guru if you're not going to run his offense? This was the main reason he was hired!
2. As others have pointed out, forcing changes only buys one more year with the same results.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Why even keep him at all? Yeah- we'll keep Moorhead and fire everyone else. I mean- we might as well just fire Moorhead if we're going to do that.

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Because in an interview it all sounds great. It's only once it gets to implementation that it doesn't work

If this happens it's 100% on Keenum. He is apparently the one that stopped the Napier hire after the Egg Bowl and wanted to keep JoMo. He is probably the one ****ing things up this time also.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Sunshine pumper conspiracy theory:

We absolutely ARE GETTING NAPIER, but he wants to coach in the game on Monday. So, to take heat off him, the admin is pushing this believable smokescreen. They have to come up with something that will keep the cat in the bag for several days, saying "JoMo agreed to everything so hes staying" is arguably the best cover they could push right now

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I certainly don't believe Napier would turn the job down if truly offered unless we were trying to lowball him. Nobody is going to stay at UL if they have a chance to have an SEC HC job.

I do think that if this turns out to be true, the one to be mad at is Keenum/Cohen. Its fairly obvious to me we dont want him and he dont want us. Moorhead is what he is. He aint gonna make a drastic change. We hired him to be an innovative offensive mind to take us to the next level. 8 months after that we were having to build a program from scratch and we are going in the right damn direction

Absolutely no way Cohen had a conversation with JoMo about relinquishing 100% of his offense to an OC. Cohen hired JoMo for his offensive mind. If anything, Cohen gave him an ultimatum because he's being too chicken shit to fire someone after their second year coaching. And everyone is being quiet because a lot of assistants are about to get let go, but JoMo is just going to hire people to run his same shit show scheme. A clean sweep is needed.