Shrader Out for Bowl Game

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If the rumor of the ark suspension for shrader is true, send him and gay on their way. It's time for the coaches to take control, and getting rid of 2 of your better players for BS would show players the coaches are taking charge. Again, if shrader was suspended for ark game for fighting.

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I'd be more for both players having a come to Jesus moment and growing up.

Everyone is assuming Gay is playing because there has been no news. Moorhead isn't going to come out and say Gay is suspended. It will be game time before anyone knows.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'm putting the majority of the blame on the guy that punched someone in the face and broke an orbital bone. Regardless of what Shrader did or didn't do, thats unacceptable behavior. Without that punch, this is a non-story. So yeah, I'm blaming the majority of this on Willie. To no do so would be in someway saying that breaking people's faces is somehow ok.

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And what if shrader threw the first punch?

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

That's a hell of a note. Guy was one of the best QB's in North Carolina, if not the best, and this happens to him. He came to State because he and his family liked Moorhead. I'll bet he regrets signing with State and that he transfers. Can't say that I blame him if that is his decision.

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If he was my son and wanted to pursue football as a career, I would be getting his ass out of this clusterf*** so fast it would make your head spin.

Edited to add: if anyone has some reasons he (or any other kid with a big upside) should stay...fire away

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Originally Posted by jwells

Garrett Shrader will miss the bowl game against Louisville with an orbital fracture.

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that wanted Joe back enjoy this shit-show... Regardless if Shrader misses the bowl game...Look, there is a lot bigger problem going on here than a fight after practice. It's the small things that lead to bigger issues and most of us realize this and wanted a change. The lack of effort, unpreparedness, pre-snap penalties and many other issues that we all witnessed is a culmination of poor leadership. A coach/leader must gain the respect install discipline and prepare a team to compete and maintain composure. This "fight" to me is an example of players not respecting the coach, the team, and even themselves...Especially if this happened after practice on the field. I understand that fights break out during practice that is a part of the game but not afterwards, this is a reflection of a bigger issue. I I will say this once again, the small things that a coach or leader doesn't do or instill will show itself in many ways and this is what we are witnessing...Good luck in 2020!

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Originally Posted by msstate7

And what if shrader threw the first punch?

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I have not heard that.

If true, that would be interesting

Love the first reply to that tweet too.

"But I was told he was basically on life support and Willie Gay had murdered him dead."

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Originally Posted by hacker

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Interesting. Did Paul really say shrader was out?

So jwells posts some bullshit breaking news again. What else is new?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I have not heard that.

If true, that would be interesting

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Oh I'm not saying he did. I thought all we knew is they were in a fight.

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Originally Posted by hacker

So jwells posts some bullshit breaking news again. What else is new?

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Todd said right below the OP that Paul confirmed. Is this true?

Yes, Paul said Shrader won't play.

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Ok, back to meltdown mode. Carry on.

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Originally Posted by hacker

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Ok, back to meltdown mode. Carry on.

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Him coming out to save face tells you all you need to know. Poor journalism.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If the rumor of the ark suspension for shrader is true, send him and gay on their way. It's time for the coaches to take control, and getting rid of 2 of your better players for BS would show players the coaches are taking charge. Again, if shrader was suspended for ark game for fighting.

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What was the rumor? I think we should drop Gay simply because he has had chance after chance including surviving freaking Academic fraud on top of that. Time to cut bait and get rid of Gay. Why the hell would you punch someone in the face after the whole incident was already over to begin with? Who does that shit?

I have told y?all earlier this is just one in a lineage of transgressions that have happened under SloMo watch. More will come out that will not paint joevester in positive light. When UL blows us out don?t discount some rumors hitting the street.
Things are bad people

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I have not heard that.

If true, that would be interesting

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Sounds to me like Gay started it when he took a cheap shot on our QB after a play was over in practice to begin with.

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Originally Posted by BhamDawg205

That would mean Joe was wrong.... And we know Gurus always get it right. Joe's history has shown, he places more importance on how you look in practice vs live games.

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When you are a baller, other players gravitate to you.

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

I have told y?all earlier this is just one in a lineage of transgressions that have happened under SloMo watch. More will come out that will not paint joevester in positive light. When UL blows us out don?t discount some rumors hitting the street.
Things are bad people

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This is what happens when you don’t pay attention to the little things and run an undisciplined program. JoMo might be a good OC but as you can see by the continued success Franklin is having at PSU Franklin is a hellofa head coach.