NCAA caves - votes to allow players to profit off likeness

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10-29-2019, 04:01 PM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

Why not leave out "That's such a dumb ****ing statement" and just say, "I was on a full ride to MSU and I worked in school too. Why can't athletes do the same?" You make the same point.

Because it doesn't take much thought once the "tax the scholarship" idea pops in your head to realize why it falls apart. I get it, folks are scared we are gonna get left behind. We might. But it's also doesn't change the fact that it's the right thing to do.
10-29-2019, 04:04 PM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by dawgs

Because it doesn't take much thought once the "tax the scholarship" idea pops in your head to realize why it falls apart. I get it, folks are scared we are gonna get left behind. We might. But it's also doesn't change the fact that it's the right thing to do.

I don't disagree with what you are saying. I wasn't even questioning what you were saying. All I was saying the first part was not needed. The second part made your point and it was more of a conversation then a "bitching contest" that most these threads have turned into. Let try to stay friendly State fans who discusses Miss State sports on a message board.
10-29-2019, 04:15 PM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

I don't disagree with what you are saying. I wasn't even questioning what you were saying. All I was saying the first part was not needed. The second part made your point and it was more of a conversation then a "bitching contest" that most these threads have turned into. Let try to stay friendly State fans who discusses Miss State sports on a message board.

My bad, just seen the same argument over and over today and it's so poorly thought through. Some senator from NC is claiming he's gonna write legislation to tax athletic scholarships now. I just don't understand this anger over 18-22 year olds generating hundreds of millions of dollars each year getting a little bit for themselves. Truly baffling to me.
10-29-2019, 04:20 PM
starkvegasdawg

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

What's Bracky say?

Will Redmond just got suspended again.
10-29-2019, 04:38 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by dawgs

My bad, just seen the same argument over and over today and it's so poorly thought through. Some senator from NC is claiming he's gonna write legislation to tax athletic scholarships now. I just don't understand this anger over 18-22 year olds generating hundreds of millions of dollars each year getting a little bit for themselves. Truly baffling to me.

Cause everyone wants a piece of the pie and lawmakers always try to find a way to get theirs. It's crazy. Heck the irs sent me a bill one time for $18. They want every cent they can get.
10-29-2019, 04:55 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by AROB44

If a player gets paid, then he should have to pay for going to school just like any other student.

TOTALLY AGREE.
10-29-2019, 04:58 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by dawgs

You act like CTE, insurance, and a drastic reduction in youth participation reducing the talent pool isn't gonna already have this effect on CFB in the next 20-30 years.

It may. But this is not going to be good for 80% of schools and 90% of college athletes. It most likely will result in a reduction of opportunity overall.
10-29-2019, 06:18 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by dawgs

That's such a dumb ****ing statement. I was on a full ride to MSU and I worked in school too. Why can't athletes do the same?

because maybe they have other duties being an SEC athlete vs a political science major? You want our players working 30 hrs a week at Papa Johns?

I'm a believer in stipends and what not but this is gonna kill small market football teams. This rule is gonna KILL us in recruiting. I can't believe they pulled this shit off. Well maybe I do believe and I think we all know why. Shit.
10-29-2019, 06:19 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by dawgs

You act like CTE, insurance, and a drastic reduction in youth participation reducing the talent pool isn't gonna already have this effect on CFB in the next 20-30 years.

People who aren't around youth football don't know how bad it is. If the sports survives another 25 years I'll be surprised.
10-29-2019, 07:19 PM
Maroonthirteen

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

I think it would have been big news if some college kid got a $5,000 to $10,000 IRS bill.

I was referring to the guys accepting the brides. But $5-$10k of omitted income ($1-$3k tax loss) is a speck of sand in relation to the tax collected each year.
10-29-2019, 08:38 PM
hp22

It sounds like an opportunity for the runners of the world to legitimize their business.
10-29-2019, 08:47 PM
Irondawg

A guy on Wimberly’s show made a good point:

What’s to keep Nike and UA and Addidas from sponsoring whole teams and creating powerhouse programs at schools of their choosing
10-29-2019, 09:18 PM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

A guy on Wimberly’s show made a good point:

What’s to keep Nike and UA and Addidas from sponsoring whole teams and creating powerhouse programs at schools of their choosing

They are already doing this.
10-30-2019, 08:41 AM
Irondawg

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Originally Posted by parabrave

They are already doing this.

In basketball yes - not as much in football (other than maybe Nike and Oregon)
10-30-2019, 09:09 AM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

Dammit!! This is bad for State!! Now there is NO way we can compete for 5 star playe.......oh wait we haven't ever been able to anyway.
10-30-2019, 09:14 AM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

In basketball yes - not as much in football (other than maybe Nike and Oregon)

NIKE owns Oregon Football. They are a playing advertiser for NIKE.
10-30-2019, 01:55 PM
MoreCowbell

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Originally Posted by dawgs

Feel free to logically back it up. Why shouldn't academic scholarships be taxed too then? Would they only be taxed if the academic recipient took a job on the side? Just ****ing think about it for a second instead of getting wound up that folks putting 3-5 years of their lives and basically full time work hours into a sport that produces hundreds of millions of dollars are finally going to be rightfully able to make a little money off it.

Dude relax
10-30-2019, 01:59 PM
MoreCowbell

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

People who aren't around youth football don't know how bad it is. If the sports survives another 25 years I'll be surprised.

I haven’t been around youth football since I played it in the late 90s early 2000s, what has changed so much? Genuinely curious
10-30-2019, 02:01 PM
MoreCowbell

If Jersey sales and autographs and stuff like that are allowed it might actually help us with the Scott Lashleys and Nigel Knotts of the world coming here and getting exposure/playing time as opposed to riding the line at Bama. I could be wrong just thinking out loud
10-30-2019, 02:32 PM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by MoreCowbell

If Jersey sales and autographs and stuff like that are allowed it might actually help us with the Scott Lashleys and Nigel Knotts of the world coming here and getting exposure/playing time as opposed to riding the line at Bama. I could be wrong just thinking out loud

Nope. MSU: "we have 65,000 fans that show up and will want your autograph!" Bama: "we have 65,000 fans show up...for the Spring Game. We have 100,000+ that will show up on the weekend and want your autograph."

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