Can Anyone Accurately Explain What We're Trying to Do on Offense?

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Originally Posted by Percho

Good points. How does Norvell make the kid from Yazoo City, Kenneth Gainwell, look like an all american? Did we recruite him?

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There's example after example of teams with less talent than us putting up points, and lots of them. Hell, Vandy put up 30+ on LSU, and there's not a single person not named 007 that would say Vandy has more talent than us.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'm not buying the "no explosive talent" BS. All off season we heard about Payton being an elite WR. All offseason we heard about Spivey and Dontae Jones and Brad Cumbest being game changers at TE. All off season we heard about Zuber and we also saw what he did at KSU. We have guys that can make big plays....we just don't have a Coach that knows how to get them the football.

Do we have Bama and LSU talent? Of course not. Never will. But the things that make coaches successful offensively is knowing your strengths and playing to them. Joe runs an offense built around taking the option every play that the defense chooses to give you. He allows the defense to dictate his game plan and every play call. The winning programs in the SEC set the tone, and don't allow you to take away their best players. They find a way to get them involved. We don't. Our coach thinks "getting Hill involved" means ramming him in to an 8 man box right up the middle and then stopping when after 10 tries it doesn't work. You have to get creative, run an option play, direct snap, screen, jet sweep, put him in the slot, run a deep whee route with him....make them defend him in order to truly take him out of the game. If all they have to do to remove your best player is stack the box, you deserve to lose.

How about putting two TE's in there and run a screen to Spivey? How bout sending a guy like Zuber that has proven able to catch tough passes on a fly pattern and throw him a 1 on 1 ball? Where's a KT package?? You're losing him anyway after this year, and his RS is safe...use him! How about a few quick screens to make the defense run side to side before slamming Kylin up the middle to soften them up?? No, you can't do things like that schematically when your game plan is to let your opponent decide your scheme that day.

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I agree with this. We have enough fast players to make plays we just ain't getting them the ball. Heck Osiris consistently beats guys deep, he did saturday but the ball was just a hair underthrown. Zuber has very good speed, Guidry has good speed(can't catch much though), Thomas has good speed, Farrod is fast for a TE, I know Spivey can run, Gibson has good speed and so does Witherspoon. The point is we have guys that can make plays with their feet ol joe just ain't getting them the ball.

here's the thing. if you don't have the very talented players you don't put them in that position to fail. you focus on the parts you do well and try to emphasize them while systematically trying to improve the parts you aren't good at. you don't put the hands of the game in a average to below average wide receivers corps. you don't base your offense around that. with this roster you create your offense around spreading the field horizontally and running misdirections, sweeps, to open up running lanes, and when you get the defense to commit to the run you hit play action or you hit quick hit throws to the outside. quit all this crap of 20 plus yard plays unless the other team just absolutely sucks at defense. then we have time for the play to develop. most of moorhead's plays take way too long to develop in this league. just way too long especially however they are teaching our linemen to block. we hesitate on our blocks and our runs. it's like they don't know who to block and where the ball is going presnap. we confuse ourselves. it's like the running backs don't know where it's supposed to go and neither do the lineman leading to hesitation our us getting stuff on short yardage plays.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I just had a fellow employee who's of the female persuasion come up to me and ask: "Does that Moorhead guy run the same damn plays over and over again?" She's a Cowboys' fan that knows virtually zero about football but she noticed Saturday afternoon we were lining up in the same formations running the same plays again and again. There ain't much game planning against that. We're making some mediocre DCs look like geniuses.

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Because the defenses show initial looks that they know will force certain audibles. Then we check to sideline, wait 15 more seconds and change into the play the defense dictated that we would change into. Opposing defensive e coordinators have been openly saying this for 2 seasons now. We may not beat Abilene Christian if they follow suit and do the same thing, because SloMo clearly has not figured it out.

Joe doesn't pay much attention to film on the upcoming opponent. He still thinks the D coordinators don't watch film of his O. RougeDawg has it figured out.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

That's why I think getting the ball to Thomas, Gibson and Witherspoon can add some much needed speed. All of those guys are great in space, Joe needs to give them more opportunities.

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Thomas and Witherspoon have potential in space to a degree. Gibson more or a power between the tackles runner that'll get you the tougher yds.

I'm kinda thinking he's just trying to give the ball back to other team as quickly as possible. Since we can't do that with explosive plays we do it with 3 and outs.