So here's a question about stupid hot games like this.

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09-09-2019, 10:33 AM
StateDawg44

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Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips

Why is ole miss always ahead of us when it comes to forward thinking on issues like this? Did you see the tents they had set up yesterday INSIDE the stadium to provide shade for their fans? We wouldn?t have come up with this in 100 years. I just don?t get it. Strickland needs to wake the hell up or we will fall further behind them. I?m about done with our hole bunch.

Uhhhh wut? Strickland? How far behind are you?

Those tents were a last ditch effort to save face for their party deck debacle. They are also a spectacle of NCAA football. They can have it and you can join them if you are tired of it.
09-09-2019, 11:15 AM
SPMT

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Originally Posted by BulldogDX55

So it seems there are three primary schools of thought in this thread:

1. Convince 40-63k people to suck it up and risk death to give a normal amount of energy and noise for a game. Ideas to convince a ton of people to change their entire demeanor and put their health at risk for the sake of the game include calling them gay, calling them pussies, and letting them know how it was back in my day.

2. Do something about the heat to create a more welcome and safe and energetic environment for the players and fans. Ideas include a UW like awning, delaying games for heat advisory, and doing more for water stations in the concourse.

3. Do nothing. 45k lathargic and miserable fans for a game vs a P5 opponent is fine.

Tough call.

The atmosphere did SUCK!!!!

The main thing, including the heat, was the concessions. That compounded it exponentially.

Provide tons of water. Tons of it.

Postponing games, i just don't see how that works.
09-09-2019, 11:25 AM
TUSK

Air Conditioning spelled "doom" for mankind, IMO...

As we evolve and advance technologically, we get "softer", especially in 1st world environments... This is compounded (on an individual basis) as age and health issues increase... And a lot of peeps with the financial bandwith to go to all of the games are a little older than most...

Short answer: One must be personally responsible for knowing one's limitations and be proactive.

That being said, I really, really dig Air Conditioning.
09-09-2019, 11:25 AM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

Hell with watch espn, we can start at 9, who gives a shit.

Ironically the PAC-12 is discussing this option, but for other reasons. I'm all for it.
09-09-2019, 11:28 AM
99jc

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Originally Posted by TUSK

Air Conditioning spelled "doom" for mankind, IMO...

As we evolve and advance technologically, we get "softer", especially in 1st world environments... This is compounded (on an individual basis) as age and health issues increase... And a lot of peeps with the financial bandwith to go to all of the games are a little older than most...

Short answer: One must be personally responsible for knowing one's limitations and be proactive.

That being said, I really, really dig Air Conditioning.

Tusk this is the 1st post you've made I am totally agreement with. I spent time in the Amazon and it was crazy hot I was dying but the locals who had no electricity never even were phased.
09-09-2019, 11:41 AM
deltadawg63

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Originally Posted by speedy1972

I grew up in the 70's like a lot of you and when we played little league baseball in 100+ heat, the coaches barely gave you a sip of water because they didn't want you to "cramp up". Well we've come a long way since then and no sense in being stupid for the sake of acting tough. No one enjoys sitting through a day game like Saturday, but since tv contracts determine start times, it looks like some hot day games are inevitable. That being said, our administration can do simple things that wouldn't cost a ton of money to make sitting in the sun tolerable. One thing that works is these "water misters" that you see outside some restaurants in places like Florida and Las Vegas where the temp gets scorching. Another thing I see at golf course is buckets of ice water that you can dip towels in to decrease body temperature. They have them at Old Waverly and it's amazing how good they work. How hard could that be?

I truly wish the SEC schools would negotiate in their TV contracts the ability to waiver TV opportunity on 1 non-conference game per year, even with a $200,000 penalty and I would hope that MSU would have done so this past Saturday. My family and I were there but it was tough and I will be there this week. There could be some 3 week prior to requirement on this for logistic purposes. There has got to be some "meeting in the middle" regarding stadium attendance and TV viewership or the product will eventually suffer in my opinion, especially for the not Top 10 programs. I truly believe if this past Saturday's game would have been at 7:00 p.m. and no TV, the attendance would have been 58-60,000 in the seats. Home opener after a win and USM would have brought more than 1,500 as it appeared.
09-09-2019, 12:28 PM
Maroonthirteen

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Ironically the PAC-12 is discussing this option, but for other reasons. I'm all for it.

Seriously that?s the truth. Maybe others with more knowledge than I can provide some insight. But with IP TV on the horizon and basically every game on espn (in some form... Espn 3 etc) why and when will P5 teams have the luxury of prime team tv slots and G5 and lesser having less desirable time slots.

ESPN can show FCS games at 11am and all the P5 games at 230 and later
09-09-2019, 01:48 PM
MadDawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I worked out a 14U girls softball team today from 2:00-5:30. Not a single one of them complained about the heat. WTF has happened to grown men these days that make them complain about going to a hot game? Jesus!

Having worked with several girls teams thru the years let me just say, um, how do you say it nicely, hmm, uh, I don't believe you.
09-09-2019, 01:52 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by TUSK

Air Conditioning spelled "doom" for mankind, IMO...

As we evolve and advance technologically, we get "softer", especially in 1st world environments... This is compounded (on an individual basis) as age and health issues increase... And a lot of peeps with the financial bandwith to go to all of the games are a little older than most...

Short answer: One must be personally responsible for knowing one's limitations and be proactive.

That being said, I really, really dig Air Conditioning.

I can agree with this cause I've gotten soft with the central a/c. I don't know about the rest of y'all but we had window units at our house and my daddy never would turn them on because it cost to dang much money he said. We stayed outside all day and worked and played and used box fans and opened the windows at night. I'm like you though I really dig the central a/c now lol
09-09-2019, 01:57 PM
Percho

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

Weather related delays are for the protection of those on the field, not the ones in the stands. As long as the players have what is needed to keep them hydrated and cool, there is no reason for postponement. You're an adult. It isn't the NCAA or SEC's responsibility to make sure you're comfortable.

Try carrying in enough water to last the game.
09-09-2019, 02:07 PM
StateDawg44

Are you implying water isn't readily available to purchase in the games?
09-09-2019, 02:09 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I can agree with this cause I've gotten soft with the central a/c. I don't know about the rest of y'all but we had window units at our house and my daddy never would turn them on because it cost to dang much money he said. We stayed outside all day and worked and played and used box fans and opened the windows at night. I'm like you though I really dig the central a/c now lol

Spend all day in overly cold government buildings like I do, and it makes days like Saturday absolutely brutal - and I still do a lot of outside work/site visits plus bike every day.
09-09-2019, 02:14 PM
StateDawg44

It also helps if you can get out in the weather early before it's 85+ and ease into it. Yeah it's still hot no doubt but it's not as big of a shock and impossible to acclimate to as when you are in a/c all day and walk outside, say for lunch, and it's unbearable.
09-09-2019, 02:19 PM
BulldogDX55

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

Are you implying water isn't readily available to purchase in the games?

Half of the concessions weren't open so there were 20+ minute lines to get water.
09-09-2019, 02:52 PM
dantheman4248

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

Are you implying water isn't readily available to purchase in the games?

No it wasn’t. Read my thread for details on how terrible the system was. If that was set up like it should have been then there would be nowhere near the complaints.
09-09-2019, 03:00 PM
Lumpy Chucklelips

Haha. Yes boys, I know who our AD is, and I know how to spell our previous AD's name. I was just trying to throw in a little shade towards OM. (No pun intended). Things were getting a little heated (damn; again no pun intended), so I was trying to lighten he mood a little. Have we really gotten to the point where we get ourselves worked up over who thinks who should sit out in the heat or not? C'mon guys, life's too short to get your blood pressure worked up over silly stuff like this. Ain't worth it. Go Dog's.
09-09-2019, 03:08 PM
dantheman4248

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Seriously that?s the truth. Maybe others with more knowledge than I can provide some insight. But with IP TV on the horizon and basically every game on espn (in some form... Espn 3 etc) why and when will P5 teams have the luxury of prime team tv slots and G5 and lesser having less desirable time slots.

ESPN can show FCS games at 11am and all the P5 games at 230 and later

Fox / B1G / PAC has figured out that 11 am slot is very profitable and heavily viewed for them.
09-10-2019, 09:05 AM
BoomBoom

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Originally Posted by deltadawg63

I truly wish the SEC schools would negotiate in their TV contracts the ability to waiver TV opportunity on 1 non-conference game per year, even with a $200,000 penalty and I would hope that MSU would have done so this past Saturday. My family and I were there but it was tough and I will be there this week. There could be some 3 week prior to requirement on this for logistic purposes. There has got to be some "meeting in the middle" regarding stadium attendance and TV viewership or the product will eventually suffer in my opinion, especially for the not Top 10 programs. I truly believe if this past Saturday's game would have been at 7:00 p.m. and no TV, the attendance would have been 58-60,000 in the seats. Home opener after a win and USM would have brought more than 1,500 as it appeared.

The school being required to move games when over a certain temp will give them leverage.

But really, this comes down to the school calling up the SEC shitheads and giving them hell, which our leadership won't do, and being proactive with heat compensating methods and fan enjoyment in general, which they also won't do.

Another problem is this can snowball. If fans become convinced that they don't need season tix, because fewer fans are buying them and they can stubhub or whatever for any games that would actually be enjoyable, then more fans will do so, and so on....
09-10-2019, 09:25 AM
Maroonthirteen

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Fox / B1G / PAC has figured out that 11 am slot is very profitable and heavily viewed for them.

That may be the case for the B1G and PAC where there are much larger populated NFL cities. I think it’s obvious the least viewed time slot here in the south are the 11am games as OM/State and Ark (smallest pops) are in that time slot every damn week. It seems.
09-10-2019, 09:33 AM
tcdog70

Before we had lights --we played all our games at 1:00. Plus people dressed up in suits. What has happened is people in the South have become soft. I can remember when we got our first A/C. Toughen up People or stay at home.

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