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04-26-2019, 01:52 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by confucius say

What about fletcher?

2012 draft
04-26-2019, 01:59 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by msstate7

2012 draft

Ahh.

Damn that 2011 season was a disappointment
04-26-2019, 02:08 PM
TrapGame

(Whistling The Who) Tommy can you hear me?... Tommy can you see me?...
04-26-2019, 02:13 PM
Relardo Sidney

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Originally Posted by Jarius

He has the locker room so much that the team did not vote him a captain and a bunch of his teammates were on social media recruiting Kelly Bryant to MSU.

Are juniors usually voted team captains?
04-26-2019, 02:14 PM
Maroonthirteen

Mmmm yeah. Bizzaro Nick Fitz but I?ll take it.

https://youtu.be/RCHA-f58m4s

Here is some game film. He big. He is white. He is from the big ten. Can Brandon walker give us a break down of his foot speed? I?ll hang up and listen.
04-26-2019, 02:20 PM
Relardo Sidney

Is he gonna play WR for us? Are we about to have two QBs that roll out as WRs as well? 25% of that highlight video is Stevens catching passes as a receiver.
04-26-2019, 02:21 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

Is he gonna play WR for us? Are we about to have two QBs that roll out as WRs as well? 25% of that highlight video is Stevens catching passes as a receiver.

At least he caught em... sorry, key**
04-26-2019, 02:40 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by msstate7

At least he caught em... sorry, key**

Nice!
04-26-2019, 02:44 PM
Maroonthirteen

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

Is he gonna play WR for us? Are we about to have two QBs that roll out as WRs as well? 25% of that highlight video is Stevens catching passes as a receiver.

The other 74% is him running. However the 2017 spring game highlights has some nice throws from him.
04-26-2019, 02:59 PM
bluelightstar

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Why was The Locker Room tweeting Kelly Bryant trying to get him to come to MSU?

Same reason the players were liking and retweeting tweets that Fitz should be benched for KT — particularly after LSU?
04-26-2019, 04:10 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Draft picks for each year...
2011 draft - 1st (off), 4th (def), 5th (def), 6th (def)

2013 draft - 2nd, 2nd, 5th (all def)

2015 draft - 2nd (def), 2nd (def), 6th (def), 6th (off), 6th (off)

2016 draft - 2nd (def), 3rd (def), 4th (off)

2018 draft - 3rd (off), 6th (off), 7th (st), 7th (st)

2019 draft after 1 day - 1st, 1st, 1st (all def)

So what you are saying is Dan underachieved with a bunch of draft picks too - including a once in a generation QB.
04-26-2019, 04:20 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

So what you are saying is Dan underachieved with a bunch of draft picks too - including a once in a generation QB.

Once this draft is over, the comparison will look much worse.

Your generational qb is who he is in large part to Dan Mullen

ETA... what irks me the most about the Moorhead is awesome group is you always have to throw a "but Mullen" in there. I was very critical at times of Mullen, but blaming him for every damn thing has pushed me to the side of wanting to defend him.

ETA x2... and the very ones that are ripping Mullen now were taking up for him when he was here. That tells me a lot of your group don't look at things with clear eyes. Whoever the coach at state is is the god of the day.
04-26-2019, 04:28 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Once this draft is over, the comparison will look much worse.

Your generational qb is who he is in large part to Dan Mullen

I don't deny that - and yes, a big reason Dak is Dak is Dan. I've never denied Dan is a very good coach.

Yes, we had 3 first round picks. We may have 6-7 picked (but I'd say it could be as low as 5). Stack those 3 1st round guy with the 4 picked last year and the 3-5 more that could still go this year and the '17 team is even more loaded then this year. So where was the outcry of "Dan wasted all that talent!" Same with '10 and '12 squads.

ETA : response to your ETA - I'm not blaming Dan. I'm saying we are holding Joe to a standard we didn't seem to hold Dan to just because of where 3 guys happen to be picked in the draft.
04-26-2019, 04:42 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

I don't deny that - and yes, a big reason Dak is Dak is Dan. I've never denied Dan is a very good coach.

Yes, we had 3 first round picks. We may have 6-7 picked (but I'd say it could be as low as 5). Stack those 3 1st round guy with the 4 picked last year and the 3-5 more that could still go this year and the '17 team is even more loaded then this year. So where was the outcry of "Dan wasted all that talent!" Same with '10 and '12 squads.

ETA : response to your ETA - I'm not blaming Dan. I'm saying we are holding Joe to a standard we didn't seem to hold Dan to just because of where 3 guys happen to be picked in the draft.

Dan left the job unfinished. I'm convinced had he stayed we only lose to maybe Bama
04-26-2019, 04:45 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Coach007

No he doesn't. Moorhead has that locker room. As Hill tweeted, "I trust our coach".

One player doesn't equate to a locker room. Hill isn't even the team leader. However, he would be favorable to a coach that made him a starter when he wasn't ready or earned it over a team favorite senior In Williams.
04-26-2019, 09:47 PM
MedDawg

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Mmmm yeah. Bizzaro Nick Fitz but I?ll take it.

https://youtu.be/RCHA-f58m4s

Here is some game film. He big. He is white. He is from the big ten. Can Brandon walker give us a break down of his foot speed? I?ll hang up and listen.

I?m a Penn State fan and have been watching Stevens for 3 years. He?s plenty fast enough, probably faster than Fitz. If not straight line faster, he?s more nimble than Fitz. I don?t think he?s as strong as Fitz and probably not as durable as Fitz because few are.

He has more touch on passes and puts more air under long passes. Seems to be more accurate, but there really are not enough attempts to know for sure. He probably wouldn?t be as good as Fitz in a Mullen offense but should be better in Moorehead?s.

I want him.
04-26-2019, 10:41 PM
BuckyIsAB****

Its as simple as this. Moorhead has seen both and has practiced and played with both extensively. If he takes Stevens its bc he believes he is better than what we currently have. Even the JoMo sucks crowd can surely understand this
04-27-2019, 12:16 AM
Bothrops

We can probably win one, perhaps two more games with Stevens. But if we don't go this route and Key is the guy, I'm not going to bitch until he fails during the season. I'm not convinced the Key can't get it done yet.
04-27-2019, 12:27 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Its as simple as this. Moorhead has seen both and has practiced and played with both extensively. If he takes Stevens its bc he believes he is better than what we currently have. Even the JoMo sucks crowd can surely understand this

I'm sure some will be upset because they want to see him fail because he lost to Kentucky, Florida, and Iowa and they thought the season would go better.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We can probably win one, perhaps two more games with Stevens. But if we don't go this route and Key is the guy, I'm not going to bitch until he fails during the season. I'm not convinced the Key can't get it done yet.

One to two more wins would equal 8-9 wins for next year based on most predictions here and I think we would all be happy about that. If this doesn't work out and I'm not getting excited until he shows up to Starkville and the ink is dry obviously Key will be the guy and I think he can do a good job. I just hope that Stevens isn't Joe's Cam Newton and Key isn't Joe's Relf.
04-27-2019, 12:28 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by MedDawg

I?m a Penn State fan and have been watching Stevens for 3 years. He?s plenty fast enough, probably faster than Fitz. If not straight line faster, he?s more nimble than Fitz. I don?t think he?s as strong as Fitz and probably not as durable as Fitz because few are.

He has more touch on passes and puts more air under long passes. Seems to be more accurate, but there really are not enough attempts to know for sure. He probably wouldn?t be as good as Fitz in a Mullen offense but should be better in Moorehead?s.

I want him.

I would be very happy with a more accurate Fitzgerald. I've wanted one for three years now.

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