Moorhead is Done At MSU

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02-06-2019, 09:31 AM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Moorhead is Rick Ray 2.0.

Great dude but brings no value to the table

He has not been Rick Ray 2.0 so far. We will probably finish with a top 25 recruiting class which is better than Mullen normally did. He won 8 games and made one of the better bowl games in the SEC. That would be like if Rick Ray had gotten into the tournament. Please quit with this total bullshit. Moorhead talked too much about Heismans and Championships but so did Mullen. He didn't do great his first year but neither did Saban, Smart, and a lot of other coaches. Barring something crazy, he will be here at least one more year so this constant bitching just shows you are being a bitch.
02-06-2019, 09:31 AM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

You sure about that? Guess we will see.

I'm a 100% positive. All this disappointment over a kid that has been committed to OM for half the year. What did you think was going to happen. When does MSU ever have a huge signing day. Unfortunately it is what it is.
02-06-2019, 09:31 AM
WeWonItAll(Most)

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Shotgun

brings no value to the board

FIFY
02-06-2019, 09:32 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

I'm a 100% positive. All this disappointment over a kid that has been committed to OM for half the year. What did you think was going to happen. When does MSU ever have a huge signing day. Unfortunately it is what it is.

I think some of the disappointment is over losing a kid committed to us for a year. I guess losing long time commits is possible
02-06-2019, 09:33 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Ok, what does he do well? Tell me where I'm wrong. Not just that I'm an idiot.

We won eight games and made the postseason. That's a good season for us. Saying it's not isn't based in reality. He had the best season ever for a first year football coach here in modern times. Rick Ray never came close to that good a season in his sport. You need to cool it. You are actively recruiting against us at the moment. PLEASE cool it.
02-06-2019, 09:34 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I think some of the disappointment is over losing a kid committed to us for a year. I guess losing long time commits is possible

Heck y'all are melting just as bad over one that was committed to THEM since July.
02-06-2019, 09:36 AM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Heck y'all are melting just as bad over one that was committed to THEM since July.

That's who we are.****
02-06-2019, 09:36 AM
Saltydog

You're just like him, except on the opposite end of the spectrum.

You're Kevin Bacon's character at the end of Animal House saying, "ALL IS WELL".........
02-06-2019, 09:40 AM
Ezsoil

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

With Mingo and Ealy choosing OM and with Moore likely signing with Auburn, we've now got a full year of garbage from Moorhead.

- 8-5 with 3 first round defensive players and the number 1 defense.

- Whiffing on most of the top 20 in the state

- Poor staff retention, which calls into question his peer's feelings about him.

The collective body of work sucks. I'm not into punishing coaches but he doesn't do anything at an above average level and he doesn't have it.

He's done. He'll be here for 2 more years but he'll suck.

Dude, let's see what he does with the QB's this year.....keep in mind what Mullen inherited a great defensive team as well and shit the bed in his first season with the LSU goal line debacle and the U of H game failure to challenge a conference USA crew incorrectly calling a beyond line line of scrimmage pass. If you get rid of Moorhead, who would want to come to this environment where keyboard cowboys criticize every move.
02-06-2019, 09:42 AM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

I'm a 100% positive. All this disappointment over a kid that has been committed to OM for half the year. What did you think was going to happen. When does MSU ever have a huge signing day. Unfortunately it is what it is.

This melt by about 75% of the fanbase (I'm getting texts from guys who don't follow recruiting) is about 10% about Mingo. There is just A LOT more. And more to come so that's something to look forward to!
02-06-2019, 09:42 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

You're Kevin Bacon's character at the end of Animal House saying, "ALL IS WELL".........

Nope. I just don't voice my concerns when I have them on a message board very often. Message boards ARE used in negative recruiting, both actively and passively. It's not rocket science.
02-06-2019, 09:47 AM
Saltydog

That was not directed to you but what is the saying about the if the shoe fits.......

NT
02-06-2019, 09:48 AM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

Geezus dude get a damn grip. You really don't need to follow recruiting
02-06-2019, 09:49 AM
BB30

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

He needs to be but our balless AD and our balless boosters will allow this shitshow trainwreck to continue another 2 years so that it will take us another 5 years to climb out of it.

We just need to face the facts that "the powers that be" want us to focus on baseball and that is all. Good luck supporting an athletic program with baseball sales folks.

That is some serious conspiracy theory stuff and pretty dumb. If you truly believe our AD is intentionally trying to bomb our football program you are too far gone from reality to be saved. There was never going to be a hire that was a guarantee and from all of the outsiders perspectives Moorhead was a terrific hire. Yall melt way too quick on here, I would hate to see how yall react when something serious that actually matters happens.
02-06-2019, 09:51 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

This has nothing to do with Moorhead though. Mullen built a solid roster.

Dude ... get a grip will ya? What Mullen did with rosters are not because of recruiting finishes. Mullen was exceptional at player development. Mullen crapped the bed plenty coming down the stretch in recruiting. Even State7 can't deny that.

Mullen's classes from 2017 back to 2009 are as follows: 24, 28, 18, 36, 24, 22, 41, 30, 18.

This class gonna finish somewhere in mid-20's I imagine. Not what we were hoping for but about what we usually get. I'm gonna cut Joe a little slack for still learning on the job, just like I am for this last season (although the offense was a shit show against decent defenses).

Now we get to see if Joe can develop players too. And if he can get his offense going much better than he did last year. Maybe he can't do either, and he'll be gone in 2 or 3 years if that is case. Or maybe he can do those 2 things and will get better at recruiting after learning the ropes a little more this year. I'm also gonna say at least Joe and the football staff put in the effort. With Mullen the effort was lacking in recruiting at times.
02-06-2019, 09:53 AM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Ok, what does he do well? Tell me where I'm wrong. Not just that I'm an idiot.

Our offense and defensive line recruiting has been pretty good this year.
02-06-2019, 09:55 AM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

I'm a 99.9% positive. All this disappointment over a kid that has been committed to OM for half the year. What did you think was going to happen. When does MSU ever have a huge signing day. Unfortunately it is what it is.

Well I guess I'm the .01 because I'm pissed we didn't sign a full class and basically self-imposed probation. We better hope all these guys pan out and we don't have an injury bug go around.
02-06-2019, 09:55 AM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Well, you tell me what Moorhead does well?

What skill or ability does he bring to the table that would allow MSU to compete in the SEC?

He is a better recruiter than Mullen ever was. You are just living in the moment. I wanted Mingo as bad as any of them and he was torn over it but at the end of the day he went to OM.

We signed a great OL and DL class and got the QB we wanted, (exactly what Mullen did at UF) but we suck and Mullen is a genius. GTFO
02-06-2019, 09:56 AM
KentuckyDawg13

Cry me a river...boohoo.
02-06-2019, 09:57 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Dude ... get a grip will ya? What Mullen did with rosters are not because of recruiting finishes. Mullen was exceptional at player development. Mullen crapped the bed plenty coming down the stretch in recruiting. Even State7 can't deny that.

Mullen's classes from 2017 back to 2009 are as follows: 24, 28, 18, 36, 24, 22, 41, 30, 18.

This class gonna finish somewhere in mid-20's I imagine. Not what we were hoping for but about what we usually get. I'm gonna cut Joe a little slack for still learning on the job, just like I am for this last season (although the offense was a shit show against decent defenses).

Now we get to see if Joe can develop players too. And if he can get his offense going much better than he did last year. Maybe he can't do either, and he'll be gone in 2 or 3 years if that is case. Or maybe he can do those 2 things and will get better at recruiting after learning the ropes a little more this year. I'm also gonna say at least Joe and the football staff put in the effort. With Mullen the effort was lacking in recruiting at times.

I hate looking at national rankings when we are 6th/7th in our division. Mullen was good at exceeding recruiting rankings, but very few are. Will moorhead? Who knows, but his talent this year was as close as it will get to the upper west schools this season, and we won 8

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