Charles Cross - #8 5*

***** has only been defeated one time that I know of. Chris jones is 1-0 against *****

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Context... do you remember the Chris Jones' recruitment? It was a national story. We were really close to seeing om having Chris Jones and Kim lining up in the middle of their defense. They were already #1 scoring defense in the country in 2014.
Chris Jones was absolutely huge.

Cross is a great get, easily top 5 all time, but Chris Jones is #1.

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No he was not. Jones and Cross not in same solar system. Jones was coming to State. Cross was going to FSU and we took him from them. That hasn't happened around here. Mullen and the country club would have NEVER even sniffed the guy, not even attempted. So no Jones and Cross are not the same.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Well we had numerous coaches scared to death at 2 a.m. thinking he was going the other way.

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Yeah well that doesn't surprise me.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Holding onto Dak over LSU is #1 all-time. Prescott forever changed the face of our program. He wasn't rated that highly but his effect on our program was priceless and continues to be while he's leading the Cowboys. Chris Jones is a fantastic player but if you asked 99% of the football fans in this country who he is and what school he played for they wouldn't be able to answer either question correctly.

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Dak was always coming to State. As far as just recruiting battle without career playing out this is absolutely huge. For us historic bc the last 10 years at least we've never done it. Taking a 5* (even 4 which he was) from someone else. Now he has to become a 5* player to even compare to Dak obviously.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

And I'm not doubting what she said. However, I also am telling you what I know, we had coaches who thought he was gone at 2a.m. That's not conjecture. By 4 it was better, then still nervous until he signed.

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Hard working grinders would have been ok

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

***** has only been defeated one time that I know of. Chris jones is 1-0 against *****

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The new Chuck Norris joke, lol.

When was the last time the State of Miss had two five stars in the same recruiting cycle?

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

When was the last time the State of Miss had two five stars in the same recruiting cycle?

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There's actually 3 now, Jack. Cross, Ealy and Nakobe Dean. Pretty crazy.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

No he was not. Jones and Cross not in same solar system. Jones was coming to State. Cross was going to FSU and we took him from them. That hasn't happened around here. Mullen and the country club would have NEVER even sniffed the guy, not even attempted. So no Jones and Cross are not the same.

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They're different kinds of wins. Jones and Dak are similar in that the big win for the staff was identifying them early on. If we wait until they start getting more attention, we maybe don't land either one. Cross is a different kind of win, getting someone everyone knew was good from a big-time program.

In both cases, we potentially stole them from bigger programs, we just went about them in different ways.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Holding onto Dak over LSU is #1 all-time. Prescott forever changed the face of our program. He wasn't rated that highly but his effect on our program was priceless and continues to be while he's leading the Cowboys. Chris Jones is a fantastic player but if you asked 99% of the football fans in this country who he is and what school he played for they wouldn't be able to answer either question correctly.

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No doubt, if you're factoring in their career after signing day, then it's Dak and there isn't a close second. But like 7, I was thinking more at the time of signing with no regard to how their careers played out.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

There's actually 3 now, Jack. Cross, Ealy and Nakobe Dean. Pretty crazy.

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I forgot about Dean. I guess because he signed with GA.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

And the fact that we flipped him from FSU. Don't think jones, Simmons, or pegues were flipped

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What you and most people on here do not know about the Chris Jones saga will change your mind on this one. I?m glad CJ was a Dawg, but some of the things involved I disapprove of. One day in the future I may spill the beans. But it?ll be after CJ is done in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

No he was not. Jones and Cross not in same solar system. Jones was coming to State. Cross was going to FSU and we took him from them. That hasn't happened around here. Mullen and the country club would have NEVER even sniffed the guy, not even attempted. So no Jones and Cross are not the same.

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ISID, was it you that told the story of T Buck coming in completely appalled at the lack of enthusiasm for recruiting 4* and 5* guys? So he goes to Florida and flips a 4* OL from FSU that Mullen said he was wasting his time on.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

ISID, was it you that told the story of T Buck coming in completely appalled at the lack of enthusiasm for recruiting 4* and 5* guys? So he goes to Florida and flips a 4* OL from FSU that Mullen said he was wasting his time on.

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Not ISID but correct.
Stewart Reese was the player don’t think he was commited to anyone
And not sure if Mullen said wasting your time. But it was said if you think you can get him go ahead and good luck. And supposedly Gonzo thought it was funny.

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Originally Posted by smootness

They're different kinds of wins. Jones and Dak are similar in that the big win for the staff was identifying them early on. If we wait until they start getting more attention, we maybe don't land either one. Cross is a different kind of win, getting someone everyone knew was good from a big-time program.

In both cases, we potentially stole them from bigger programs, we just went about them in different ways.

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Right...thought that's what I said. Maybe i was confusing some...

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Yeah well that doesn't surprise me.

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Ha. Not the ones you think. The ones that actually helped get him. The others were in bed!!

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Not ISID but correct.
Stewart Reese was the player don’t think he was commited to anyone
And not sure if Mullen said wasting your time. But it was said if you think you can get him go ahead and good luck. And supposedly Gonzo thought it was funny.

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Scary to think about what our o-line would have looked like without Reese who has been actually playing out of position for two years thanks to Hevesy apparently deciding that we don't need OT's with "small" hands.