Getsy to Greenbay?

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Sure they do, but our drop percentage was not even league average. It was a true weakness

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Is he supposedly teaching some new technique or something? See the ball, catch it with your hands, not your body... This is a silly argument. He's in demand, he's prob a lot better than you coach potato superstars.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Is he supposedly teaching some new technique or something? See the ball, catch it with your hands, not your body... This is a silly argument. He's in demand, he's prob a lot better than you coach potato superstars.

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This. I believe in the Packers evaluation of Getsy's potential more than our fans, many of whom have never played a down of truly meaningful football.

Our fan base laughs at the delusion of OM while we are over here saying the former Packers WR coach doesn't know what he's doing. How many good teams you guys know run around with one of the least talented skill positions in the conference? Go back and look preseason at where the SEC rankings had our WRs. It's not a Getsy issue folks. It's a talent issue. When you go into the season and you have 4 WRs, all of whom had been in college before, that have a lot of "potential", it's probably not gonna be a good year at that position.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

This. I believe in the Packers evaluation of Getsy's potential more than our fans, many of whom have never played a down of truly meaningful football.

Our fan base laughs at the delusion of OM while we are over here saying the former Packers WR coach doesn't know what he's doing. How many good teams you guys know run around with one of the least talented skill positions in the conference? Go back and look preseason at where the SEC rankings had our WRs. It's not a Getsy issue folks. It's a talent issue. When you go into the season and you have 4 WRs, all of whom had been in college before, that have a lot of "potential", it's probably not gonna be a good year at that position.

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I don't think there are many MSU fans who would say he doesn't know what he is doing. Anyone that gets an on field job at the young age he did in the NFL has got to be a pretty dang good coach, but, on the other hand, given this year's results I will join in saying I'm not going to go into depression if he leaves. So I think most of us would prefer he stays but if he wants to leave then so be it. This is Moorhead's offense no matter what title any other offensive coach has and I certainly want Shoop to stay to finally have some continuity on defense. I feel we can deal with any other changes without any real hiccups in our play next year.

When the cardinals hired Kingsbury after TT fired him, most everyone here said the cardinals were dumb. Now the nfl wants getsy and the nfl can't be wrong. The logic of this board is all over the place. With that said, I didn't say getsy was good or bad, but I won't cry about losing any offensive coach after this season

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Originally Posted by msstate7

When the cardinals hired Kingsbury after TT fired him, most everyone here said the cardinals were dumb. Now the nfl wants getsy and the nfl can't be wrong. The logic of this board is all over the place. With that said, I didn't say getsy was good or bad, but I won't cry about losing any offensive coach after this season

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Well I have maintained from the beginning that while there is blame to go around for all, I think Moorhead as a person and coach has a lot less blame and that we not only are weak at WR and QB, but that we were lacking a considerable amount of football knowledge on the offensive side of the football. I think that showed on numerous occasions.

Year 2 should be better, but our skill positions will still be thin. We still will be lower 1/3 of the SEC at WR and we will be young on the OL.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Is he supposedly teaching some new technique or something? See the ball, catch it with your hands, not your body... This is a silly argument. He's in demand, he's prob a lot better than you coach potato superstars.

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I was talking about our receiver group and their hands. It’s one of the things that a coach can help with but when the lights come on, it’s up to the receiver to catch the ball. They can get better with this coach or another and do things to work on the skill but game time will be the final judge and it’s up to the player.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

When the cardinals hired Kingsbury after TT fired him, most everyone here said the cardinals were dumb. Now the nfl wants getsy and the nfl can't be wrong. The logic of this board is all over the place. With that said, I didn't say getsy was good or bad, but I won't cry about losing any offensive coach after this season

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Big difference between a guy that has been a WR coach in the NFL going to the NFL as a WR coach and a guy that has no NFL coaching experience and a losing record in college becoming a NFL HC or OC.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I was meaning our WRs and QB in general both looked better in the passing game under a guy who doesnt want to throw it compared to a guy who wants to throw it

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I see. Statistically though Fitz was basically the same QB but interestingly enough the biggest difference was Fitz ran the ball a higher percentage of the time when compared to the RB's. Which to me was as much an issue as Fitz's inaccuracy.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

The "Our coaches are not to blame" crowd Before season:
-"This year's team is a 9-10 Win team with last year's WR's, so the sky is the limit this year because we're much improved with Guidry, Williams, Whop, etc."

The "Our coaches are not to blame" crowd now:
-"Our WR's suck. Can't catch a cold. Fitz is trash. Fitz is also to blame for RB's not getting carries." Etc.

You guys sound dumb defending these coaches by trashing our players. The same players that most of you said were why we'd be better. I'm sure the services were wrong rating Guidry, Whop and Williams 4 stars. Meanwhile teams around the country have better offenses with worse QB's AND WR's. But we can't move the ball with a 5th year Senior and 3-4 four star wideouts? Yep, definitely all a talent issue....can't be coaching.**

I've never understood the portion of our fans that always give a pass to the guy making millions to Coach our team. Especially when it's his own specialty of a position group that is holding us back.

Hopefully you guys are right though. I hope he gets better players and it does a 180.
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You forgot "our Oline sucks cause we have no talent and that's all on Hev and Dan".

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I see. Statistically though Fitz was basically the same QB but interestingly enough the biggest difference was Fitz ran the ball a higher percentage of the time when compared to the RB's. Which to me was as much an issue as Fitz's inaccuracy.

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There is no excuse for that to happen. The fact that he had more carries than both our RBs combined is a huge black mark on Moorhead. There is literally no excuse for it. Some will blame that on Fitz but at the end of the day if Moorhead wants him to hand it off he tells him too and if he doesnt you bench his ass and lay the law down.

So it was that case or it was ok with Moorhead that he carried that much, either way it is bad

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Personally I've contended for awhile that Fitz was most of the issue. Guidry and Mitchell both had their moments good and bad. I was impressed with Osirus in the Outback Bowl in terms of how much he improved. Both need to be more consistent- especially Guidry. As far as Austin Williams I think a lot of that was he has a better rapport with Key. The reason I say that is he stood out in the spring when KT was the QB and it seemed like he was targeted more against Stephen F Austin and Arkansas (TD from KT in the Arkansas game) when KT was the QB. Whop may improve as well because he and KT go back to high school.

And I want Getsy to stay.

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Austin Williams got open against SFA. He rarely got open in SEC play. Not saying he never got open but he can't get separation that well.

I want Getsy to stay too BTW. I don't agree with some of our starters on O but also understand that Joe's priorities aren't moving the chains but instead is explosive plays. Not sure how Austin really fit into that category tho. Mixon much more explosive.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

You forgot "our Oline sucks cause we have no talent and that's all on Hev and Dan".

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Our OL was one of the better ones in the SEC. People will point out the UK game but that was one game against a special talent that we looked like we had no plan for.

If we just run what UK did on offense this year we are 11-2

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

There is no excuse for that to happen. The fact that he had more carries than both our RBs combined is a huge black mark on Moorhead. There is literally no excuse for it. Some will blame that on Fitz but at the end of the day if Moorhead wants him to hand it off he tells him too and if he doesnt you bench his ass and lay the law down.

So it was that case or it was ok with Moorhead that he carried that much, either way it is bad

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Ultimately it is almost always the HC's fault. I said that under Mullen and I say it now. Some didn't say it under Mullen, but are saying it now, and vice-versa.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Dramatic much?

ETA... the lengths some of you will trash our players to prop our coaches up never ceases to amaze me

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You shouldn?t be calling anyone out for dramatics.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Our OL was one of the better ones in the SEC. People will point out the UK game but that was one game against a special talent that we looked like we had no plan for.

If we just run what UK did on offense this year we are 11-2

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I think we were ok but not consistent and broke down at inopportune times, especially against upper tier competition and more so earlier in the year. Some on here insist that is ALL Hev's and Mullen's fault due to talent. I don't think talent was the whole issue tho or even the major issue except at LT maybe.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I think we were ok but not consistent and broke down at inopportune times, especially against upper tier competition and more so earlier in the year. Some on here insist that is ALL Hev's and Mullen's fault due to talent. I don't think talent was the whole issue tho or even the major issue except at LT maybe.

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If we run the ball 3 times and punt in that game and the UF game we win both. Wouldve been tougher against LSU but we wouldve had a shot

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Originally Posted by MrKotter

You shouldn?t be calling anyone out for dramatics.

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7 is the coolest, most even keel guy on the board. He takes everything in stride *********

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

7 is the coolest, most even keel guy on the board. He takes everything in stride *********

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Damn right haha

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

I would rather pull Bumphis from Hud?s Staff anyway... but the SDS article coincides with the Mingo visit on purpose.

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Bingo.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Austin Williams got open against SFA. He rarely got open in SEC play. Not saying he never got open but he can't get separation that well.

I want Getsy to stay too BTW. I don't agree with some of our starters on O but also understand that Joe's priorities aren't moving the chains but instead is explosive plays. Not sure how Austin really fit into that category tho. Mixon much more explosive.

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Mixon was still working on his injury. No one knows the extent of his injury, but for him and Fitz to be in physical therapy all off season goes to show you what he was trying to bounce back from.